The mysterious suicide that has rocked the Vatican, page 1
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Topic started on 6-10-2011 @ 05:13 PM by silent thunder
Ran a search but didn't see this posted...its a few days old and I'm surprised nobody has posted it yet.

The Vatican is always of interest on ATS, for their secrecy and for other reasons. Here we have a tale of possible greed, corruption, and money issues in the world's oldest institution. Many will say "what else is new" and they have a point, but Vatican watchers and others might find the story worth checking out.


On a Monday morning in July, a gunshot rang out in the administration section of Milan's San Raffaele hospital. Seconds later, a frightened secretary entered the office of the institution's vice-president, Mario Cal, and found him lying in a pool of blood...

...Three hundred miles north of the capital, in Italy's second city, the battle is on to prevent a third body blow to the Vatican. This time cardinals are having to deal not with a moral abyss but a financial chasm – a shortfall of €1.5bn on the balance sheet of Milan's San Raffaele teaching hospital...The San Raffaele is highly regarded for the quality of its medical care and its research. But as Mr Cal's death made clear, it is in a crisis.

Thanks to bad investments and profligate expenses unrelated to medical care that would make a tycoon blush – including personal aircraft, hotels in Sardinia, and mango plantations in South America – the hospital is on the verge of collapse, something that was said to have been distressing Mr Cal greatly, and would have proved a huge embarrassment to the Vatican. Underlining the gravity of the situation, Milan's chief prosecutor, Edmondo Bruti Liberati, announced on Friday that the organisation was under investigation for fraudulent bankruptcy...

...Meanwhile, questions are being asked about the suicide and the nature of the institution in which it took place. How was the hospital able to build up such colossal debts? Who placed Mr Cal's gun in a bag away from the body before the police arrived? And why did a hospital administrator in one of Western Europe's safest major cities feel the need to keep a pistol in his desk?


More at source:
www.independent.co.uk...


reply posted on 6-10-2011 @ 06:42 PM by aboutface
reply to post by silent thunder


Interesting find, OP. In Canada the religious hospitals did not make a profit, so they were taken over and rescued by the provinces. They quickly fell from grace in terms of researchers and top doctors. As for corruption in Italy, I'm still reeling from a documentary I saw on the very serious Naples problems.


reply posted on 7-10-2011 @ 04:24 AM by chrissiel123
reply to post by aboutface


OT - but it is early here, and reand sleepily reading your post i mistakenly read "nipple problem". Did a double take!

as for the topic here, i get a bit queasy whenever the vatican is mentioned....with ratzinger being the second last pope i keep thinking when the shtf we will here about it first from there. no facts, just a hunch.



reply posted on 7-10-2011 @ 05:07 AM by FoxStriker
To tell you the truth after reading the article, this has the scent of murder all over it.


Meanwhile, questions are being asked about the suicide and the nature of the institution in which it took place. How was the hospital able to build up such colossal debts? Who placed Mr Cal's gun in a bag away from the body before the police arrived? And why did a hospital administrator in one of Western Europe's safest major cities feel the need to keep a pistol in his desk


Come on... things being moved around before the police got there...

If anything they should be asking, What did Mario Cal know about the missing money that didn't want to be found out... If anything, what names did he know or would have pointed out if he were to come up on bankruptcy fraud charges?

And THIS IS THE KICKER


Cardinal Bertone has said that he would like to create a larger centre of excellence, by merging the San Raffaele with other hospitals.
Which begs the question: why is the Catholic Church so keen to be a major investor in the healthcare of Italy – a rich nation, with one of the highest life expectancies in the world – when poor countries lack a basic health infrastructure?


This is something that the Unions did here in the US, there can be no independent business if a union is to be created.

Looks like the Vatican was just tying up some lose ends or maybe someone wanting to make The Vatican look worse...

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reply posted on 7-10-2011 @ 05:30 AM by spikey
reply to post by silent thunder

The Vatican is and always has been corrupt and rotten to it's core imo.

The hospital is obviously just one of many laundering schemes used for passing dirty money through it's books to 'wash' it.

It's little wonder the RC church keeps a huge secret archive, if it were revealed and made public, i'd bet the world would be astonished at how long and how deep the rot went.

Never mind auditing the FED, or occupying Wall street, the couple of billion Christians around the world should insist on an audit of the Vatican and occupying that instead.

Why are there starving people in the world when a so called church is so filthy rich?

Why does a group of pop singers have to 'feed the world', or Oxfam, save the children, the red cross have to work their arses off to raise a few paltry million to build infrastructure and deliver food in third world countries?

Because the church isn't a front for 'the mob', it is the original and largest mob in existence. They have relied on intimidation and fear to drive up their power and bank accounts, and the murder of opponents throughout their history, just like Mafia.

They even have an ex NAZI youth member as their godfather.

If you want to give to charity and help your fellow human beings, don't give your money to any church, RC or otherwise, give it directly to the recipients or hire a truck and fill it with equipment food and supplies and drive a convoy yourselves...if you give it to a church, most of it will go to them and not to the starving and dying.

It's a racket ladies and gentlemen, it always has been and as long as their are gullible people, it always will be.


reply posted on 7-10-2011 @ 06:04 AM by archangel2012
Originally posted by silent thunder
Ran a search but didn't see this posted...its a few days old and I'm surprised nobody has posted it yet.

The Vatican is always of interest on ATS, for their secrecy and for other reasons. Here we have a tale of possible greed, corruption, and money issues in the world's oldest institution. Many will say "what else is new" and they have a point, but Vatican watchers and others might find the story worth checking out.


On a Monday morning in July, a gunshot rang out in the administration section of Milan's San Raffaele hospital. Seconds later, a frightened secretary entered the office of the institution's vice-president, Mario Cal, and found him lying in a pool of blood...

...Three hundred miles north of the capital, in Italy's second city, the battle is on to prevent a third body blow to the Vatican. This time cardinals are having to deal not with a moral abyss but a financial chasm – a shortfall of €1.5bn on the balance sheet of Milan's San Raffaele teaching hospital...The San Raffaele is highly regarded for the quality of its medical care and its research. But as Mr Cal's death made clear, it is in a crisis.

Thanks to bad investments and profligate expenses unrelated to medical care that would make a tycoon blush – including personal aircraft, hotels in Sardinia, and mango plantations in South America – the hospital is on the verge of collapse, something that was said to have been distressing Mr Cal greatly, and would have proved a huge embarrassment to the Vatican. Underlining the gravity of the situation, Milan's chief prosecutor, Edmondo Bruti Liberati, announced on Friday that the organisation was under investigation for fraudulent bankruptcy...

...Meanwhile, questions are being asked about the suicide and the nature of the institution in which it took place. How was the hospital able to build up such colossal debts? Who placed Mr Cal's gun in a bag away from the body before the police arrived? And why did a hospital administrator in one of Western Europe's safest major cities feel the need to keep a pistol in his desk?


More at source:
www.independent.co.uk...



interesing to say the least.. the catholic church IS anti-christ.. the false religion..with thousands of child molestations...pope paul sitting on a chair in jerusalem in 2008 that has an inverted cross directley behind him. colors of red and purple.. and they even have a telescope on mt Grahan they named lucifer.. in the last days it is written that many.... mysteries will be revealed.


reply posted on 7-10-2011 @ 09:41 AM by aboutface
reply to post by Jordan River


I think you misread. What was said in so many words is that the Vatican is a subject of interest to the members of ATS, not the other way around.


reply posted on 10-10-2011 @ 10:29 AM by MischeviousElf
Modus Operandi?

Yes!



Oh and of course there is this:



And this:



Oh and yes this:



Of course we do not want to forget this do we?:



and how about the following?:



Surely not by men in priests gowns?



Im sure all of the above is chinese lanterns and swamp gas.

However we must have faith in letting these people total freedom, a story told about a man 400 years after he died and re written according to the "politically correct" views of the time stateswe must believe in the church of the rock.

Strange that no "you are my rock" in the REAL gospels.

Even to be found within said by JC {quote] do not build churches to look for me, do not create statues... but hey lets not believe the written words of an actual disciple, and listen to those written 400 years later by the ruling Jewish pagan and roman authorities at the time so that it "fitted in" because we should have faith in these messengers of Gog and JC and just trust that god works in mysterious ways.

Kind Regards,

Elf
edit on 10-10-2011 by MischeviousElf because: video link

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