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Originally posted by Buddha1098
reply to post by smithjustinb
Your logic is faulty my friend. You Argue that Death and Non-existence are interchangeable I would argue they are not.
Before your birth you were nonexistent potential. Your Parents had you. You're alive, and now you're dead. You aren't non existent anymore you're dead. In the ground or Burned up but dead and your body will be dead for all time.
You can argue that you BELIEVE that consciousness exists after death, but you don't have proof.
Originally posted by RKallisti
reply to post by smithjustinb
May I suggest something?
Life is Alive. Birth and death are merely "gateways" in and out of incarnative experience.
You are alive pre-birth, pos-death and during the incarnation. "Life" is All. You are always alive.
Originally posted by linkedbelts
the burden of proof lies on he who asserts the positive, it is not possible to prove a negative, nor is there any rational demand for such proof. YOU are claiming that life exists after death, so the burden of proof is on you, and you HAVE no such proof, and never will have it, nor will anyone else. So all you have shown is your ignorance.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Its simple.
Before you were born, you were dead, and now you are alive. So when you die again, it makes perfect logic sense that you will have another opprotunity for life.
Now, that doesn't mean that there is a heaven or hell, it simply means there is definitely life after death as before this life, you were dead, or not alive (same thing), and now you're alive. Life after death.edit on 6-10-2011 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)
To put it another way using different words:
There is non-existence before and after life. The fact that non-existence preceded life implies the FACT that life can arise from non-existence. Since this is the case, then the period of non-existence after this life has the opportunity for another life arising. It's simple and it's obvious.edit on 6-10-2011 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)edit on 6-10-2011 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by linkedbelts
the burden of proof lies on he who asserts the positive, it is not possible to prove a negative, nor is there any rational demand for such proof. YOU are claiming that life exists after death, so the burden of proof is on you, and you HAVE no such proof, and never will have it, nor will anyone else. So all you have shown is your ignorance.
Originally posted by Buddha1098
reply to post by smithjustinb
Your logic is faulty my friend. You Argue that Death and Non-existence are interchangeable I would argue they are not.
Before your birth you were nonexistent potential. Your Parents had you. You're alive, and now you're dead. You aren't non existent anymore you're dead. In the ground or Burned up but dead and your body will be dead for all time.
You can argue that you BELIEVE that consciousness exists after death, but you don't have proof.
Originally posted by juveous
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by juveous
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Its simple.
you were dead, and now you are alive.
Here is where the logic breaks down.
Prove to others that they were dead or existed before birth/conception.
The proof is obvious.
There is death (non-existance) before life. Then you are born and you exist. That is life after death. So that means when you die and are dead, you have the opportunity for life.
No, the only thing obvious is the manipulation of definitions here.
Why do you assume death is a precursor for life? Everyone understands the recycling of matter/energy and how death can't really exist in that sense, but that is not what you are arguing.
Nonexistence is not an attribute of the living, it would be closer defined as a consequence because of aging which leads to a perishing of the symptoms for that living creature. No where does this constitute the opportunity for that living creature to exist again.
Look at endangered species. If I kill all but one, your logic says that if that one dies, the opportunity for another exists.