Originally posted by smithjustinb
Its simple.

Before you were born, you were dead, and now you are alive. So when you die again, it makes perfect logic sense that you will have another opprotunity for life.

Originally posted by juveous

Originally posted by smithjustinb
Its simple.

you were dead, and now you are alive.

Here is where the logic breaks down.

Prove to others that they were dead or existed before birth/conception.

Originally posted by traditionaldrummer

Originally posted by smithjustinb
Its simple.

Before you were born, you were dead, and now you are alive. So when you die again, it makes perfect logic sense that you will have another opprotunity for life.

Before I was born I was non-existent and now I'm alive. Once I die I will again be non-existent.

"Perfect logic sense" is not your friend

Originally posted by traditionaldrummer

Originally posted by smithjustinb
Its simple.

Before you were born, you were dead, and now you are alive. So when you die again, it makes perfect logic sense that you will have another opprotunity for life.

Before I was born I was non-existent and now I'm alive. Once I die I will again be non-existent.

"Perfect logic sense" is not your friend

Originally posted by juveous

Originally posted by smithjustinb
Its simple.

you were dead, and now you are alive.

Here is where the logic breaks down.

Prove to others that they were dead or existed before birth/conception.

Originally posted by chrissiel123
something that does not exist can not be dead or alive. So the OP does not make any sense.

Originally posted by Essan

Originally posted by smithjustinb
Its simple.

Before you were born, you were dead, and now you are alive. So when you die again, it makes perfect logic sense that you will have another opprotunity for life.

So every blade of grass. Every midge. Every lichen. Has an afterlife?

Originally posted by NewAgeMan

Originally posted by traditionaldrummer

Originally posted by smithjustinb
Its simple.

Before you were born, you were dead, and now you are alive. So when you die again, it makes perfect logic sense that you will have another opprotunity for life.

Before I was born I was non-existent and now I'm alive. Once I die I will again be non-existent.

"Perfect logic sense" is not your friend

How then, pray tell, can death contain life? Isn't it the other way around, wherein death is but a part of life?

Originally posted by Ozvaldo

Originally posted by smithjustinb
Its simple.

Before you were born, you were dead, and now you are alive. So when you die again, it makes perfect logic sense that you will have another opprotunity for life.

Now, that doesn't mean that there is a heaven or hell, it simply means there is definitely life after death as before this life, you were dead, or not alive (same thing), and now you're alive. Life after death.

edit on 6-10-2011 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)

I don't suppose you could message me your dealers number could you?

Originally posted by Essan

Originally posted by smithjustinb
Its simple.

Before you were born, you were dead, and now you are alive. So when you die again, it makes perfect logic sense that you will have another opprotunity for life.

So every blade of grass. Every midge. Every lichen. Has an afterlife?

Originally posted by Trolloks
The matter that you are made on lives on yes, but our conciousness/soul/what makes you you dies with you. You was not concious before birth, and you are not when you are dead, only when alive, conciousness needs a body to work, something to interact with, when you are dead, your body dies with you, and with it your conciousness.

Fact, as you would say.

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
How then, pray tell, can death contain life. Isn't it the other way around, wherein death is but a part of life?

Originally posted by wagnificent

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
How then, pray tell, can death contain life. Isn't it the other way around, wherein death is but a part of life?

I would say that death is related to but not part of life; rather death is the absence of life. However life would have no context without death. They are two sides of the same coin. The real question is "What is the coin?" I would argue that it is the body, and the two sides are its temporal modes of existence. Living bodies are animated by a force, and dead bodies lack such animation.

I view near-death experience as a short period wherein the animating force leaves the body, resulting in the body's "death," and when it returns, the body "revives."

Originally posted by Josonic

Originally posted by smithjustinb
Before you were born, you were dead, and now you are alive.

Before you were born (and before your conception) you were not dead, you weren't anything. You were non-existent.

Originally posted by smithjustinb

Originally posted by Josonic

Originally posted by smithjustinb
Before you were born, you were dead, and now you are alive.

Before you were born (and before your conception) you were not dead, you weren't anything. You were non-existent.

Okay. But isn't dead just another word for non-existent?

Dead implies that there was a preceding life, so it is a more focused and direct term in that it adds in the variable of having lived, but dead fits into the category of non-existent.

In other words what is non-existent isn't necessarily dead, but what is dead is non-existent.

Originally posted by smithjustinb

Originally posted by juveous

Originally posted by smithjustinb
Its simple.

you were dead, and now you are alive.

Here is where the logic breaks down.

Prove to others that they were dead or existed before birth/conception.

The proof is obvious.

There is death (non-existance) before life. Then you are born and you exist. That is life after death. So that means when you die and are dead, you have the opportunity for life.