Cain Rips Into Occupy Wall St Protesters, Calls Them "Anti-American"

Dammit Cain, Every time I start liking you turn around and do/say something stupid.

You're back to number 4 buddy.

OT: Protesting and using your freedom of speech is never anti-American.

reply to post by libertytoall


The one who wears "The Mark Of The Beast" shall be identified as a Pre AntiChrist!

It's funny, I know very little about Herman Cain and knew ABSOLUTELY nothing about him until maybe a week ago. I read that he's a republican candidate and saw some of his statements. More and more outrageous and outlandish statements and positions. And I'm in disbelief, like "how the !@$% does this conservative get away with these positions?? How could he POSSIBLY be a candidate??"

Then I found out that he's black. Makes sense now!

I find it interesting, since it shows that my amazement was genuine (not racist) and illustrates the true divide in free speech. A white conservative saying the things he says would be laughed out of the building and crucified by the media.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by kettenreaction
reply to post by MysticPearl

 

to call protesting anti-american shows just how far out of touch these politicians are. take corporate contributions out of campaigning and that's when you'll hear someone that represents the people.

I happen to think Cain is right about this protest. He knows how Capitalism works, and it seems he can spot a socialist as easily as I can.

Cain knows how crony capitalism works. He also is a Federal Reserve insider, CFR member and onetime Director of the Kansas City Fed.

He's either ill informed or intentionally misrepresenting the character of the OWS participants. Clearly some may be some socialists but there are also MANY well informed "End the Fed" types who value liberty and know how far we have strayed from being the type of nation most of us would like to live in.

Cain's a convincing bs artist.

His former job at The Federal Reserve Kansas City tells me everything I need to know about him.

CONFIRMATION DEFINITIVE THAT THE TEA PARTY IS NOW A WHOLLY OWNED, OPERATED, FINANCED, CONTROLLED ARM OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE!

A vote for The Tea Party is a vote against America! He's only attacking because of The Rothchilds overlords ordered him to do so!

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1

NO, what I am saying is most people believe this government is a democracy. Pure democracy is not what this country was founded on, and the fact we have gotten so FAR from being a Republic is causing most of the ills in this country.

Republic Definition Dictionary.com

1.
a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
2.
any body of persons viewed as a commonwealth.
3.
a state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other hereditary head of state.


Democracy same .com

1.
government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
2.
a state having such a form of government: The United States and Canada are democracies.
3.
a state of society characterized by formal equality of rights and privileges.


I do find it very interesting the dictionary even calls it a democracy when in fact it is a democratic republic.

One of the things find super interesting is how many POTUS have been related???? hmmm that shouldn't happen in a Republic!

Other definitions stress Rule of Law, see Webster

Republic
a (1) : a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch and who in modern times is usually a president (2) : a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government b (1) : a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law (2) : a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government c : a usually specified republican government of a political unit

Democracy
a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
2
: a political unit that has a democratic government
3
capitalized : the principles and policies of the Democratic party in the United States

Also you have to bear in mind the Party Names of Republicans and Democrats have hanged meaning and what each Party Name stood for, more than once over the history of our country.

Wiki says,

Republicanism is not the same as democracy, for republicanism asserts that people have unalienable rights that cannot be voted away by a majority of voters. Since the 1830s when Alexis de Tocqueville warned about the "tyranny of the majority" in a democracy, advocates of the rights of minorities have warned that the courts needed to protect those rights by reversing efforts by voters to terminate the rights of an unpopular minority.[5] (This concern actually pre-dated de Tocqueveille by decades, and was the primary reason for the Bill of Rights, as protections for individuals and minority factions against the power of the democratically elected federal government.) "Republicanism" is derived from the term "republic", but the two words have different meanings, and people sometimes confuse them. "Republic" is a form of government and "republicanism" is a political ideology.[6][clarification needed] Two major parties were explicitly named after the idea—the Republican party of Thomas Jefferson (founded in 1793, and often called the "Democratic-Republican party" by political scientists), and the current Republican party (founded in 1854).[7]

Benjamin Franklin: When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.

John Adams: Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.

Thomas Jefferson: A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51% of the people may take away the rights of the other 49%.

James Madison: Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their death.

John Witherspoon: Pure democracy cannot subsist long nor be carried far into the departments of state - it is very subject to caprice and the madness of popular rage.

Karl Marx: Democracy is the road to socialism.


*shrugs* I see big differences...but that's just me

reply to post by MysticPearl


anti-American and anti-capitalistic? really eh? well i truly hope obama or Ron Paul would win this fixed election then, i guess since that Cain made these comments i guess that also makes him anti-American and anti freedom, so much for been a favorite of the tea party.

reply to post by Cinaed


We are a damn democracy the GOP time and time uses the republic myth in order to impose their will upon the populous without care or regard to what the populous wants or wishes as a whole.

If we were a true republic we'd have limtied rights but since we are a Democratic Representatives Republic means we are a democracy first and foremost.

Who gives a toss about what Karl Marx thinks or wants. Obviously his ideas never got any traction or else we'd be a marxist state. Typical GOP strategy is when you can't win the argument bring up the Birther, Marxist, Orwellian lies.

You in that case have already lost this debate by trying to imply that Republicanism runs the nation. In the US we are represented based upon free, open democratic elections to determine the future of the republic. Democracy is not a threat to the fortress but demanding that Republicanism shall be the only way is shades of dictatorial policies and decrees this nation as a dictaitorship.

reply to post by MysticPearl


Racist!

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1

NO I am not saying Republicanism runs the country, I am saying it doesn't...that's the point

reply to post by MysticPearl


He worked for the Federal Reserve. Of course he's going to call anyone protesting the Fed anti-american even though the Federal Reserve itself is anti-american by its very existance considering the fact that WE DIDNT HAVE A CENTRAL BANK IN THIS COUNTRY UNTIL 1913! THE FOUNDERS WERE STRICTLY AGAINST IT!

This lunacy needs to stop! And anyone that actually votes for this scum should be labeled anti-american!

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1


We are a republic.

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1


I am no birther but I am a genealogist.... Bush Clinton Obama ALL related...

just sayin

reply to post by e11888


We may be a republic but republicanism does not run the nation as a few idiots have been conned into thinking.

reply to post by Cinaed


Then find out where Cain fits into the family tree.

reply to post by Cinaed


That's great I don't own any of that crap (and thats what it is) I have a four year old samsung phone bought second hand because I need a way to receive calls for a job, I don't even own a car, I have no tattooes and loathe peircings In fact if you met me on the street you'd actually take me as a conservative (except I do wear jeans) but I am very "normal" looking, in a crowd, in fact, you'd never pick me out because I have nothing at all distinguishing me from any other person out there. I lived my whole life frugally, I own a mobile home (not financed, owned straight up) because that is what was within my means. I am not christian, nor catholic, but I have a gold cross and chain from my mother and the reason I wear it is only because my mother gave it to me, it has sentimental value, as she is a full 17 yrs older than you, and hasn't probably got many years left. I waited until 39 to attend college because I worked and worked and worked and didn't get anywhere, I decided to try college (still attending) and busting my A$$ at it, online no less (It's thousands cheaper) in hopes it gets me somewhere in life since I am sick of being paycheck to paycheck. My children weren't raised on Gerber baby foods, I home cooked and purified the foods I cooked (with no salt/sugar/preservatives) in a processor for them until they could eat solid foods all while working forty plus hours a week. I served in the military from right out of high school until I had my first kid. EMT. (I didn't re-enlist as my kid was born at the tail end of my fourth and final year anyway.). I don't say I can't about anything or I'd have been dead a long damn time ago. That's why I can go to school online (A true person who says I can't could never ever do the online schooling as you have to be very self disciplined).

And so to sum my point up you're full of horse sh**.
Oh and I speak my mind.
Also these people nor I expect handouts.
We just expect a damn government that represents EVERY DAMN PERSON!!!!

Well what's funny is that all these exorcist movies that were made began in Africa...Every time the movie starts they are in Africa and someone digs up something that they shouldn't have. Now I'm not saying Herman Cain is the Anti-Christ. I will let you all decide... I am just going off movies, but through time they have been pretty accurate. Not just Exorcist movies, but anything that involves space as well....

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1

*Let me be clear* --Obama

I do NOT believe Republicanism runs the country. I am saying the country was founded as a Republic and the further we stray from that the more MESSED UP this country has become...

I care a lot about what Karl Marx said, and other tyrants through history too that would destroy personal liberty. I care because history has a way of repeating itself. The fact you DON'T care what Karl Marx had to say ...shows me how TERRIBLY far we have strayed from the path that made us great

reply to post by MysticPearl


I wish there was one step above Stars and Flags, cause I would give that too.

Cain couldn't be more out of touch with the American people if he lived on Mars. Civil unrest and protest is how this country was formed and is one the primary ways that significant change has always occured within our government and our society as a whole.

Yeah, some of the people are calling to share the wealth, but most are fighting to ensure the ability of every American to be able to pursue the 'American Dream'. They are fighting so that they and their children can make an honest living and give a better standard of living to future generations.

Our children's generation is the first in American history to have a lower standard of living than their parents, and this can not be allowed to continue.

Just my opinion, we all have them.

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1

How about this, I will bet you whoever wins the Republican Nomination IS related to the last few Presidents... That kind of research is a lot of work and I don't have time to do it to prove my point...but I will bet you whoever it is that wins...maybe someone going to hop in last minute...I will bet I can prove THEY are, whoever that may be...