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Cain Rips Into Occupy Wall St Protesters, Calls Them "Anti-American"

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posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 05:18 AM
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The GOP is in the dumper as far as I am concerned. I have always tended to lean towards Republican views on many issues but I have never fully aligned myself with the party. The last 20 years has seen absolute erosion in the Republican party more so than the democrats and neither are the parties I grew up knowing. It's like one bad dream I can't wake up from.

From an observer stand point you hit it right on the nose and I wish more Americans could see the same thing. Just my 2 cents worth anyways. Solid post so star for you.




posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 05:31 AM
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What a tool. Un-American? Wow, that just shows how ignorant this man is. What could be more American than exercising their Constitutional rights? Does anyone remember what Jefferson said when he heard of Shay's rebellion? He said something of the affect that a good revolution is needed now and then to keep the government honest.

And that is what will happen if they keep it up...And if this man was leading the country, it would happen sooner rather than later.



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 05:53 AM
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The Obama political machine is taking advantage of OWS and they don't even know it.



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 05:58 AM
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"I don't have much patience for someone who does not want to achieve their American dream the old-fashioned way."


Well the 99% doesn't have patience for someone who does not understand that the American dream is an illusion built like a mirage that you can see from a distance but then disappears without any chance of achieving any kind of American dream in the way it is supposed to be fashioned, FOR THE PEOPLE !


"They're basically saying that somehow the government is supposed to take from those that have succeeded and give to those who want to protest."


No, they are basically saying that the government is definitely taking from those that have been poor or just don't have enough money to survive, and giving it to those with greed and corruption (which is not being successful at all, it is DEGRADING their own kind)


He added: "That's not the way America was built."


You're right, it was built FOR the people, not to take FROM the people and give wealth to just a FEW !


"They're protesting in the wrong place," Cain said. "I'm not sure I know why they're there. If they're there because they are jealous of Wall Street and bankers and people who have succeeded, then they're there for the wrong reasons.


They're protesting in the perfect place ! They aren't there because they are jealous, they're there because they want America back, the way it was before, the OLD-FASHIONED constitutional way !



This country is based on people who achieve their dreams and work." He added that the protesters "should go figure out what America is all about."


You are right about the first sentence, but you forgot the one's who are supposed to be achieving those dreams, THE PEOPLE, not the FEW, and these protestors KNOW what America is all about, which is why they are protesting, because what America has become is NOT what America is supposed to be about. So, Mr.Cain, I think that YOU and all the other politicians should go figure out what America is REALLY all about, because it's not this--
corruption



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 06:04 AM
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Oh, yeah - he's the guy that managed so save a company by firing lots of people... Anyone could do that.

Cain is already a "has been" solely for this statement - goes back to his roots with the Fed.

No one is really complaining about not being rich. We're complaining over the government taking our money and giving it to bankrupt corporations to hand out as bonuses to their executives. And all manner of things like that.

Bye Cain!



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 06:08 AM
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No...Mr. Cain sat on the Board of the Kansas City Branch of the Federal Reerve. Quite a difference from being the 'leader.'. Also...I am fascinated by those who actually believe the Fed is PART of the US government. The Fed is LESS oublic than Federal Exress.



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 06:33 AM
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I strongly dislike Cain
edit on 7-10-2011 by Gwampo because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 06:56 AM
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Yeah, I know....this guy Cain should actually read HIS history book and find out what America is all about. You see, the forfathers who established America warned us about the Bankers and told us what would happen were we to let them run our economy. We didn't listen....and it happened. So, it's not a matter of jealousy, it's a matter of rage, that those who have the power to help us...are simply abusing the power to become wealthy and to control us and to make us do all the work, while they get all the money for our hard labour. This is what America is now,....the forefathers do not agree with yu CAIN (where have I heard that name anyway....wasn't it in the bible? Oh well.)



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 07:10 AM
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You cannot blame the banker for taking advantage of a system, which rewards thievery, monetary debauchery, and political enslavement. You cannot blame the politician, whom finds financial gain in selling his soul to the lobbyist that pays their eternal retirement, making the allure of maintaining a career political status ongoing, or for allowing the corporations who fund said lobbyist, who in turn fund said politician from being controlled like a marionette of lies and deceit.


Why should American citizens blame themselves for someone else's greed and corruption. Under that ideology, we as humans should all blame ourselves for every murder that takes place or every rape that happens. We didn't ask them to steal from us. They did it behind closed doors in a sphere of influence that we average American's are not privy to. The hold secret meetings and tempt and lie and cheat and steal at every turn and they keep us nearly 100% busy most of the time just working to try to get food in our children's mouths. We talk to our congressmen, they do nothing, senators, they do nothing.....we even vote in the President we want....they just ignore us and put in the President THEY want by lying to us in the news about polls and by manipulating the voting process, (example) Bush stealing the Presidency in Florida by using his brother Jeb. America has a military that can kick our ass....they have mass crowd control weapons. What the hell would you do smart guy? Let me guess...strap on a weapon and a cape and go beat America back into submission. Now that is an American dream. I get so tired of people blaming Americans for the greed and corruption of evil people who don't even care about the one person here defending their evil. That's exactly what you're doing too....you are blaming innocent people for the blatant evil of their oppressors. They also have dumbing down campaigns for the typical American while they go to college at Harvard and Yale. Don't you think this might be somewhat of an advantage for the elites over the people?



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 07:26 AM
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Perhaps some of you should read about Cain and his humble beginnings. He was born in poverty, you know the condition where most of you think the child should be aborted because their quality of life is going to be horrible. His very existance is a slap in the face to the left, in that it's proof positive that a poor black man raised in the segregated south can actual turn out to be a positive contributor to society. He took advantage of the free public education, and worked to put himself through college, unlike many of the protestors who think we should pay for their college. And as for work? Who can afford to not work for weeks and goof off, unless you still live with your parents?

As he said, if they are pissed about the government And wall streets relationship, they need to protest at the Capitol and white house. Problem is these same individuals were responsible for hope and change 3 years ago, so this is unlikely.

By the way, anyone who doesn't like Herman Cain is just a racist. this is going to be fun



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 07:29 AM
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Well I was expecting to read some ignorant comments from Cain here, but, without commenting on Cain himself since I don't follow him, I don't see the problem with his comments quoted in the original post. He doesn't say people shouldn't protest, he is saying people are protesting in the wrong place and for the wrong reasons.

From what I've read there seems to be a lot of truth to that. On an MSN article I read earlier, several people were interviewed including a 19 year old girl who said she was there protesting because she thought education should be free and she's bothered that she has to accumulate debt to get a college education. Aside from another example of someone wanting a free handout or something for nothing, what does that have to do with ending the corruption in our government, which is tied to the corruption of some of the largest corporations and banks in our country? How is that agenda going to save our country and how does that make the whole protest look?

Some seem to be there for the right reasons but what I think I'm seeing are a lot of people who see a protest going on, and come down to make it about their own personal grievances, since there isn't a crystal clear message of what it's really all about. And most of those people are, in typical American fashion, looking for "sumthing for nothing", which is what Cain is talking about. "Well the big banks got a bailout, so should we"... how about addressing the issue that there shouldn't have been a bailout in the first place? I'm really amazed that I see some of those attitudes in here. Usually those kind of people are busy watching TeeVee.

Is that what you all think America is about? I always heard it referred to as the Land of Opportunity, not the Land of Free Handouts. You're bitter because you're in debt and out of a job now? Maybe you shouldn't have spent all your money and then some and thought about savings instead. In America, we no longer say because a person is a particular skin color or sex or religion that they can't have opportunity where others can. We put no limitations on anyone in their ability to dream, plan, work hard, fail, try again, and succeed. We put no limits on human potential. No limits on how rich you can get if you want. The same bad economy that's happening to all the down and out whiners and complainers is happening to everyone, and some people are finding solutions to their problems, moving forward, and doing just fine, if not better than ever. And I'm not talking about those who are already mega-rich. Pity to those who can't fall down, learn from it, get back up and do better for themselves next time. You're destined to a life full of struggle.

If one person can overcome their odds and become successful, there's no reason anyone else can't either. But it's always easier to blame others, blame the government, blame society, blame the system for your own problems. God forbid you have to go out and overcome some obstacles to live your life. Would an American Citizen bailout make you happy? Would $1 million deposited into your bank account courtesy of Uncle Sam with a note saying "Sorry, we f@%#ed up, please accept this as our condolence", change your attitude or situation? Of course you'd gladly take the money for free but no way would you go take the risk and do the work on your own to earn it like most people choosing to participate in capitalism do. It's easier to complain.

Why is it a foreigner, who doesn't even speak English, can come here and work 3 minimum wage jobs while putting themselves through night school, later start a business and within a few years become a millionaire, yet all most of you can do is complain? They have the same corrupt government and IRS you all have. Maybe because they don't buy cars and homes they can't afford, max out their credit cards trying to keep up with the Jones's and then spend all the rest of their cash shopping at WalMart on useless junk they don't need, so that when a market crash happens they're just wiped out. You know how I know so many of you spend all your money at WalMart on non-necessities? Simple. You don't become the worlds largest retailer without billions of loyal customers. And I've been there and I've seen you.

Cain is right, most people do need to figure out what America is all about. The reason he is out of touch with Americans is because Americans, most of them, are out of touch with this country... and what it is, that really makes it so great. It shouldn't make a damn what the economy is doing, what the government is doing, what big corporations are doing or what your home price or investments are doing... if you aren't making it and you see no way out, you need to go take a look in the mirror to discover the root of the problem.

We simply need a protest to end the governmental corruption, the neglect of our Constitution and the takeover of our freedoms, nothing more.



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 07:31 AM
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I guess now we are to witness how the corporatist whores politicians do not need to hide their intentions and neither affiliations any longer to the public and voters.

Our nation political system is metamorphosing into what has become in the last few decades a system own and run by big interest and now they have no reason to hide it anymore from the sheep and slaves.

Welcome to the new America of the Uber rich pimps and their political whores, where you only have constitutional rights after permission from the corporate government.



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 07:52 AM
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[sarcasm]

Always remember: America doesn't mean Democracy. It means capitalism. Which, evidently, doesn't mean a free market within reason, but a free market without limit, reason be damned. America = the freedom to make as much money as humanly possible, all other considerations be damned. Any point of view or philosophical stance that strays from this = un-American.

[/sarcasm]

People are free to believe in pure capitalism. But in America, people are also free to believe in other socio-economic systems, or no system at all, if they choose to hold that philosophical stance and don't break any laws. What's "un-American" is trying to tell fellow citizens what to believe and think or that they are somehow unpatriotic for not agreeing with you. We tried not letting people adhere to other beliefs when they chose to before. It was called Mccarthyism. Whether you agreed with it or not (which is your right,) it didn't turn out very well.

Just my opinion/two cents. Peace.
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posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:00 AM
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I am so glad you brought up the ditzy girl, who thinks her college education should be 'free'. Ok, hon...why not have 'Occupy NYU?' Or 'Occupy Columbia?' too? Hasn't the tuition, room, board charged by higher education gone up far in excess of the cost of living? Why do the heralded programs of higher education (knowledge as she so daftly puts it) change text books yearly requiring students to buy highly priced new books; and having little or no resale value in 'old' (last semester's) books? Does the phrase 'useful idiot' ever apply more than now?

When did four years of 'growth' become a prerequisite to future success? Why does college mean, for so many, a four year party time with some class work on the side? Why are community colleges and trade schools not as 'recommended' as four year boondoogles for degress in Philosophy, Enlglish Lit, Journalism, Women's/Black/Hispanic 'Studies?' Which of course come with six figure student loan debt upon graduation, but little or no job prospects. Why don't the hallowed halls of academia push hard sciences, engineering, nursing, bio research? Well, because those who can critically 'think' can't be dumbed down to 'occupy' anything for others political gain.

Occupy Columia, NYU, etc and prove that these 'kids' are thinking for themselves and THEIR situations...not Obama's re-election



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:09 AM
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I agree with Herman Cain.

Real Americans would roll up their sleeves, dig into the dirt, and get themselves moving. "OccupyWallStreet" is too busy blaming other people for their problems. United States was build upon the 'strength of the individual' (individualism), and "OccupyWallStreet" is built upon the 'weakness and needs of the individual' (socialism). Our founders came to this country, for they wanted to be left alone. "OccupyWallStreet" rejects individualism, self responsibility, and freewill. All these protestors want the government to provide and think for them. Even though they appear to be rejecting government corruption, the group's manifesto says something entirely different.

Summary of "OccupyWallStreet's" menifesto: "Get rid of the Republicans, upper-class, middle-class, and Corporations, so the government can tax them in order to give me free stuff."

"OccupyWallStreet" are individuals who fear the future, for they lack the ability to stand on their own two feet. As a result of relying on the government for assistance, they do not have the skills necessary to control their fates.



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:11 AM
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here is a guy who wouldnt last 6 seconds in 1776. does he not realize how this country was founded? sounds like he is being un-american

when is someone going to toss this guy out into the playground and rough him up?



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:40 AM
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Originally posted by Maxmars
As a former board member of a Federal reserve Bank, I would expect no less from Mr. Cain.

And for those of you who may have forgotten... as apparently Mr. Cain has, this country actually did start out just like this... protests and dissent... or doesn't any one remember the revolution... and the economic inequities that gave rise to it?

"The refusal of King George III to allow the colonies to operate an honest money system, which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators was probably the prime cause of the revolution." Benjamin Franklin, Founding Father.

Say, Mr Cain; do you know to whom Benjamin Franklin was referring when he said "money manipulators?" You should .... since you're one of them.


Anyone who equates the American revolution to occupy wall street is an idiot. The revolution\war for independance was not a bunch of leftists, commies, hippies, and union thugs loitering about complaining and crying about rich people in front of tv cameras. George Washington would be absolutely disgusted with that crowd! dont compare apples to beet(nik)s. Cain is spot on the money when he said they need to blame THEMSELVES and that they should be protesting NOBAMA in DC. But, but, but obama told them its the RICH people that are evil... *pssssst* guess what...obama is rich...wall street gave him their biggest campaign donation EVER....and he gave them our tax money in the bailouts.....its not that hard to figure out thr root of the cause...and it starts with "O".



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:45 AM
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Exactly, we wallow in a mess of our own making, complaining about how dirty things are, yet we never make a real effort to rise out of the mud.

The population holds the pink slip of every elected offical, we are powerful beyond measure, power held in check by crushing apathy and short attention spans.



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by gunshooter
here is a guy who wouldnt last 6 seconds in 1776. does he not realize how this country was founded? sounds like he is being un-american

when is someone going to toss this guy out into the playground and rough him up?


Actually he is the exact type of person that would have been a leader in 1776. Go learn some history...actually read the book 1776. George Washington was a born wealthy entrepreneur capitalist. Only difference there is that Cain wasnt born wealthy he made himself that way.



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by Maxmars
As a former board member of a Federal reserve Bank, I would expect no less from Mr. Cain.

And for those of you who may have forgotten... as apparently Mr. Cain has, this country actually did start out just like this... protests and dissent... or doesn't any one remember the revolution... and the economic inequities that gave rise to it?

"The refusal of King George III to allow the colonies to operate an honest money system, which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators was probably the prime cause of the revolution." Benjamin Franklin, Founding Father.

Say, Mr Cain; do you know to whom Benjamin Franklin was referring when he said "money manipulators?" You should .... since you're one of them.


Very well put, the only thing i could add is Mr. Cain is a trite, and a hypocrit at best.



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