Cain Rips Into Occupy Wall St Protesters, Calls Them "Anti-American"

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How can you sit there and try to be anti Marxist when you have just said that you care about what Marx thinks, Can you say "double standard"? Or are you studying it just so that you can use it to attack Obama whenever the mood strikes.

Most have suspected Obama's a blood relative, now it's up to you to prove it!

Wuit backing the puppet known as Cain and start sticking up for America!

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1

It's not up to me to research every candidate to prove a point. I don't even know that Cain is going to win the nomination, the fact he is the current darling means nothing, anything can still happen I have offered to prove the winner is and that is all I am out to do. I have a life... I would say though the fact Cain worked at the FED was interesting news to me so the odds he is related just went up in my opinion. I have nothing to prove to you to invest literally DAYS of research, why not deny ignorance......I bet you know how to use google....

If you read my post I said I care about what all the tyrants in history said....due to the vicious cycle history seems to have. I want to be INFORMED so I know what I am standing up for. I have studied history... I find this to be a much better way to understand what is really going on

You don't have to agree with me but why the need to bash me. All I have done is point out the differences between the forms of government and quoted the ones that wrote our founding documents....

Interesting response though

Originally posted by robyn

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by kettenreaction
reply to post by MysticPearl

 

to call protesting anti-american shows just how far out of touch these politicians are. take corporate contributions out of campaigning and that's when you'll hear someone that represents the people.

I happen to think Cain is right about this protest. He knows how Capitalism works, and it seems he can spot a socialist as easily as I can.

Cain knows how crony capitalism works. He also is a Federal Reserve insider, CFR member and onetime Director of the Kansas City Fed.

He's either ill informed or intentionally misrepresenting the character of the OWS participants. Clearly some may be some socialists but there are also MANY well informed "End the Fed" types who value liberty and know how far we have strayed from being the type of nation most of us would like to live in.

Cain's a convincing bs artist.

I'm guessing that would be your remark about anyone who disagrees with the OWS. However, I will give you the "member of the Fed". Just about everyone is CFR, except Ron Paul. and Kucinich, but he's so far left.,,, the only thing about him that impresses me is his discussion of Russian psychontronics experiments.

Originally posted by illuminatislave

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by kettenreaction
reply to post by MysticPearl

 

to call protesting anti-american shows just how far out of touch these politicians are. take corporate contributions out of campaigning and that's when you'll hear someone that represents the people.

I happen to think Cain is right about this protest. He knows how Capitalism works, and it seems he can spot a socialist as easily as I can.

So you are a traitor to this country by aligning yourself with someone who believes that protesting is anti american. Good to know how things work in that little corner of yours, fascist.

You throw the words traitor and fascism around awful lightly. I could say the same to you for aligning with a bunch of radical socialists and commie anarchists who want to overthrow our Republic. On this post alone I'm pretty sure you don't know even a basic definition of fascism.

And no, protesting is definitely American, but the people and the ideas behind this protest are anti-American. I champion free speech and freedom of assembly. I don't have to champion a bunch of radicals wanting to overthrow our Republican form of govt.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


WE DO NOT WISH TO OVERTHROW OR TAKEOVER THE UNITED STATES, What WE DEMAND is private influence ended, fairness re-established. We want an end to the oppression of the average American. We demand a restoration of a Gov't "Of the people, By the people and for the people", WE will not allow people into our occupations who are carrying guns, drunk or stoned.

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

WE DO NOT WISH TO OVERTHROW OR TAKEOVER THE UNITED STATES, What WE DEMAND is private influence ended, fairness re-established. We want an end to the oppression of the average American. We demand a restoration of a Gov't "Of the people, By the people and for the people"!

Wanting to get rid of private influence is pretty much the same as saying you want communism, as communism abolishes all private property. You better watch what you wish for.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


Selective rights for certain individuals but no rights to protest banks or any other ill of society, you my friend are a dictator in training. You are apart of the problem, defend our fellow earthlings and go against the banks. Now get off of ATS and go back posting to the Herman Cain forums and stop posting this Anti American rhetoric here. I backed the Tea Party's right to protest but was against the fact that they brought guns to their rallies (What was the symbolism of the guns for? To threaten via intimidation?).

If they told you the sky was purple and the colour of water was yellow you'd all believe it hook, line and sinker just because Obama knows for a fact the sky in blue while the water is aquablue. Hypocrites!

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Where do you get equating being against the banks and the Federal Reserve as being Anti American? Shows your true colours with that statement and can be heard loud and clear!

AGENT PROVOCATEUR IDENTIFIED!

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

WE DO NOT WISH TO OVERTHROW OR TAKEOVER THE UNITED STATES, What WE DEMAND is private influence ended, fairness re-established. We want an end to the oppression of the average American. We demand a restoration of a Gov't "Of the people, By the people and for the people", WE will not allow people into our occupations who are carrying guns, drunk or stoned.

edit on 8-10-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)

Looks to me like OccupyWallstreet is not only a bunch of communist wannabes and flunkies, but a good share of Democrat operatives. Their list of demands look strikingly similar to the Democrat Party platfform. And whatever isn't Democrat Party expressly, is somewhat socialist in nature.

www.washingtontimes.com...

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

This one is particularly funny, and totally opposite of the Tea Party demand to control govt spending

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

This one is so like um tree hugging enviromentalism

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.

I can just see them chained to the trees in Central Park now. And, oh yeah its the China Syndrome all over again, the nuclear freeze of Jimmah Carter era.

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

ERA, that is so dead in the waters 80's. The majority of pregnant mothers do not wish to be on the battle front when their water breaks.

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

La raza and MEChA at work. The illegal reconquista program and Marxist communism. Not to mention, you might as well vote for Perry then, since he wants to spend your tax dollars educating the children of illegals.


And the very last one is an obvious Union demand.

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

Where do you get equating being against the banks and the Federal Reserve as being Anti American? Shows your true colours with that statement and can be heard loud and clear!

AGENT PROVOCATEUR IDENTIFIED!

edit on 8-10-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)

No, you don't know anything about me or my true colors. No, it is not so much being against banks. It is the talk of changing the system and bringing socialism in one way or another. You see I actually listen to the stuff they say.

And sheesh, calling me an agent provocateur, that is just the silliest darn thing I've heard all year. I could say something here but it might get me banned.

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1
No one is saying you don't have the right to protest LEGALLY...I will defend your right to do that ..but I don't have to agree with what you are demanding...I read the demands of OWS....

Those demands lead to places many of us do not want to go. It doesn't mean we don't defend your right to do protest what you believe in...that IS what the USA is suppose to be about. If the demands represented more of the general population you would have more supporters.....

If the Unions turn it into a lawless mob then, I will not defend that. Then it will DEFINITELY be assisting the socialist communist agenda...

I really hope the group doesn't buy into what TPTB are going to try to do to it!

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

Selective rights for certain individuals but no rights to protest banks or any other ill of society, you my friend are a dictator in training. You are apart of the problem, defend our fellow earthlings and go against the banks. Now get off of ATS and go back posting to the Herman Cain forums and stop posting this Anti American rhetoric here. I backed the Tea Party's right to protest but was against the fact that they brought guns to their rallies (What was the symbolism of the guns for? To threaten via intimidation?).

If they told you the sky was purple and the colour of water was yellow you'd all believe it hook, line and sinker just because Obama knows for a fact the sky in blue while the water is aquablue. Hypocrites!

edit on 8-10-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)

Where have I said they have no rights to protest? Just show me one post EVER where I said that? You are out of...oh never mind its just not worth it.

Oh guns to rallies, lol is that whats bothering you about the Tea Parties. That would be in texas. lol in Texas seems guns are a normal thing there. I support the 2nd Amendment. Im surprised banning handguns wasn't in the OWS demands.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


2 - 4 are what this nation was founded upon, free oppourtunity for all. Nowadays if you ain't related to certain families your prospects for a good paying job with benefits and advancement are non existent. So, the slogan of "Life, Liberty And The Pursuit Of Happiness" is only allowed if your last name happens to be Rothchilds, Rockerfeller or Vanderbilt but the struggling family isn't allowed to share in the same dream.

5 Ends the wars over energy that has us time and time again paying $4 - $6 a gallon of gas. This ends the Numero Dos reason for Islamic Extremitism, stop bombing Arab countries for oil. The Israeli lobby can't have that now, can they?

6 - The $1,000,000,000,000 that they are asking for keeps American jobs in America and forces a company to pay an honest and decent wage so that the average person can enjoy and live the same dream that their parents had.

7 - Protects the environment by keeping green spaces that are prohibited from development. Remember "Mountaintop Removal"? That decimated millions upon millions of acres of land and ruined town after town in Appalachia. Deepwater Horizon explosion from Aug 10 decimated The Gulf Of Mexico. So to take care of this planet is wrong? I hope you don't have kids because acc to what you back their water and air will be poisoned and there'd be nothing they'd be able to do about it.

8 - Being gay is one of the hardest things one can be. Rights are guaranteed to all Americans without preservation nor reservation along the lines of gender, race, religion, sexual orientation.

9. This simply means to create a system that allows someone who wants to be an American to be allowed to be on the path to citizenship.

I feel sad for this country...
I hope that everybody that wants things to keep going on as they are to get what they wish for...
Then they can live the exact same way those protesters have to live, get kicked out of their jobs, get foreclosed on and then lose everything they own...sad to say but that is the only way they're going to see how stupid they are being.

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

2 - 4 are what this nation was founded upon, free oppourtunity for all. Nowadays if you ain't related to certain families your prospects for a good paying job with benefits and advancement are non existent. So, the slogan of "Life, Liberty And The Pursuit Of Happiness" is only allowed if your last name happens to be Rothchilds, Rockerfeller or Vanderbilt but the struggling family isn't allowed to share in the same dream.


7 -
8 - Being gay is one of the hardest things one can be. Rights are guaranteed to all Americans without preservation nor reservation along the lines of gender, race, religion, sexual orientation.

9. This simply means to create a system that allows someone who wants to be an American to be allowed to be on the path to citizenship.

Free college education is what this country was founded on? wow you need a real history book and not a progressive revisionist history.

Don't even talk to me of Liberty when you support a movement which espouses Totalitarian Nanny Statism. Im sorry but your dots just dont connect.

Number 8, I commented on the ERA. Are you too young to know about that? What part of pregnant mommies on the battle front has to do with gayness? So did you read the gender equality to mean gay marriage? I read it as feminist equal rights, since that's what the ERA was all about. But perhaps they have rewritten it again. It failed in the 70's and 80's and now they have added more controversial stuff. It's really sure to pass now

Yah I know what the Dream Act is all about. I know what it means to give illegals amnesty after breaking our laws and demanding the same rights as citizens, and expecting to jump in the front of the line of people who do come here legally. I also know what reconquista is. Apparently you don't.

Okay interesting point of note!! Just for fun I did do a few googles about Cain.... amazingly his genealogy records are more hidden than Obama's school records!

Now isn't that interesting?

Some researchers are already digging around but as yet haven't gotten too far

genforum.genealogy.com...

Will be interesting to see if they find anymore any time soon....

Did anyone actually read the quotes of Herman Cain?.... go back and read the original OP.

He did not criticize protesting. What he criticized was protesting the success of others, protesting expecting that those that succeeded in life should some how support those that didn't succeed and have not exercized their right to succeed.

Further, the protestors somehow expect the government and Wall Street to provide some means of livelihood and support, to feed and educate and house the populace in general.

That is what Herman Cain proclaimed as un-American... and I have to say he is right.

If you are not employed or rich or successful, it is your own fault... again, he is right.

Who made someone sign up for a college loan?

I had one...and I worked hard and paid it off early. My daughter has a little bit of a loan, but she has worked for most of her money to pay for college, plus Pell Grants, and scholarships... which took work in and of themselves. Plus, she went to a community college where she could transfer the credits of her freshman and sophomore year to a 4 year univeristy... so we paid hundreds for the basic classes instead of thousands... we left the major costs and courses for her major.

Who made an individual sign a mortage?

I have one... it is a business contract. I agree to borrow money for X amount of interests to be paid for over a certain number of years. In return, I get to purchase a house/ home and live there and when the loan/ mortage is paid off...the property is mine.

Pretty simple really, but as a business contract, it requires some forethought of the buyer...Do I have steady employment? Can I make payments if something bad happens? Do I have options if i can't make the payments? What is the interest? Are there any hidden dangers in the loan? Do I need an attorney to look at this contract before I sign it?

If you fail to make payments... you lose the property. You know that when you sign the agreement. No one is forcing you to do this. It is your decision. Not the bank, not Wall Street. Not Obama. Not god....YOU.

Back during the Great Depression people did anything for work and were willing to do anything legal to survive... pick peaches, pick cotton, work in a saw mill, work 12+ hours a day 5-6-7 days a week. People walked 5-10 miles one way, worked all day, then walked back home or hitched a ride. People moved to where the jobs were...Oklahoma to California... from Appalachia to New Port News. Some people worked 2 jobs, or worked a job and farmed too.

When I say these things, people say I am "lucky" or "priviledged"...if working a full time job and 3-4 part time jobs back in 1997-98-99-200 and going to night school to learn a new carreer after my BS was found to be BS...yeah, I am lucky. I also learned about investing, took a real estate course, went to some FREE business courses offered by the local community college for economic developement, and continue to work a 45-50 hr week job and a farm...yeah, I am lucky.

Success is not easy... but it is attainable and if I can do it, anybody can. My wife is successful, but 12 years ago, she worked 3 part time jobs to make full time income...and she was raising 3 kids alone. If we could do it...you can too.

I have an opening at the business I manage... of 6 people we interviewed 2 days ago, only one came in with a tie on...only 2 others had their shirt tail tucked in... and these were out of the 30 or so applications that were legible, used decent english, and showed potential as a team member. A host of others didn't make the cut because of prior arrests and jail time... are there really that many people with criminal records?

Being an American means so many things to so many people. The American Way... at least in my eyes and as Herman Cain seems to imply:

-Rely on yourself...the individual... not your mama, not your buddy, not the governemnt...you.
-Seek opportunity where it lies. If that means moving...move. If it means traveling...travel.
-Never stop learning... learn something new everyday... then use it.
-If no one will hire you... hire yourself... find a need and fill it.
-Don't be afraid to fail... learn from your mistakes.

America was built on pioneering spirit... the westward expansion.. making something good or taking something good and making it better... hard work...and that means just that... hard work...

Did you know some states offer free land in exchange for moving and settling there? Did you know that there is an "oil boom" up in North Dakota... they can not get enough workers and employees up there? Did you know that community colleges, in the name of economic developement, are offereing free courses in business?

So what are you waiting for? There is opportunity? It is up to you.. the individual to change your life and your place in it...

And that my friends is the American Way.

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I was liking Herman Cain until I heard this bit about his involvement in the FED....now I'm looking at him warily...to everything else you said


*enthusiastic applause* !!!!

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

WE DO NOT WISH TO OVERTHROW OR TAKEOVER THE UNITED STATES, What WE DEMAND is private influence ended, fairness re-established. We want an end to the oppression of the average American. We demand a restoration of a Gov't "Of the people, By the people and for the people"!

Wanting to get rid of private influence is pretty much the same as saying you want communism, as communism abolishes all private property. You better watch what you wish for.

Come back from the cloud your hiding in. I believe what he meant by private influence was the private sector infiltrating government policy. Opposing that doesn't make you a communist it makes you a patriot..

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


I've battled the same exact people who are trying to take us all over. The fact you look at us as your enemy is dead wrong when we are simply battling the system for not only you, but for America as well.

I've done some not so nice things to ensure freedom for all and know exactly what I speak of. I've been face to face with our enemy while you just do whatever they tell you and if you dared to question them they'd label you as Anti American. This is what every single one of y'all fear. You fear your own party because they've got everyone of you so indoctrinated and so brainwashed that a campaign of fear via threats, intimidation that you won't speak out against them over fear of reprisal. Break the control that the banks have over you and stop being their puppets and pawns.

You control you and your fate not some banker. As long as you concede yourself to the banks they own you, they use this control to leverage you. We are all the majority.

The Statue Of Liberty is one of my neighbours so to tell me I know nothing about liberty is a crock!