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So, Steve Jobs is dead... but what did he really give us?!?!

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posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 05:13 PM
reply to post by krzyspmac

I've spoked about corporate greed being rooted in maximizing profits or didn't you read that? That makes me entreched in my opinion "praising" jobs?

No sorry i didn’t see that... my mistake... However, i still don’t see the point you are trying to make... you just seem frustrated because I have an opinion and don’t discuss things in the same way you do.

Really people, where do you get your hate from?

Incidentally it's already dark here, been a nice typing practice

And as for the hate... I really don’t know what you are talking about... I have not hate... heated maybe, frustrated definitely, but hate? Nope!

That is just an assumption by you.

Namaste to you too my friend, sorry for keeping you up so late


edit on 6-10-2011 by Muckster because: added some bits

posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 05:15 PM
Mr. Jobs mad it too expensive for me to ever purchase and buy any apple product, yet I do wish him to rest in peace.



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 05:17 PM
reply to post by Muckster

He was co-founder,[8] chairman, and chief executive officer of Apple Inc.[9][10] Jobs also previously served as chief executive of Pixar Animation Studios; he became a member of the board of directors of The Walt Disney Company in 2006, following the acquisition of Pixar by Disney. He was credited in Toy Story (1995) as an executive producer.[11] In the late 1970s, Jobs—along with Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak, Mike Markkula[8] and others—designed, developed, and marketed one of the first commercially successful lines of personal computers, the Apple II series. In the early 1980s, Jobs was among the first to see the commercial potential of Xerox PARC's mouse-driven graphical user interface, which led to the creation of the Macintosh.[12][13] After losing a power struggle with the board of directors in 1985,[14][15] Jobs resigned from Apple and founded NeXT, a computer platform development company specializing in the higher-education and business markets. Apple's subsequent 1996 buyout of NeXT brought Jobs back to the company he co-founded, and he served as its CEO from 1997 until August 2011. In 1986, he acquired the computer graphics division of Lucasfilm Ltd which was spun off as Pixar Animation Studios.[16] He remained CEO and majority shareholder at 50.1 percent until its acquisition by The Walt Disney Company in 2006.[17] Consequently Jobs became Disney's largest individual shareholder at 7 percent and a member of Disney's Board of Directors.[18][19] On August 24, 2011, Jobs announced his resignation from his role as Apple's CEO.

Looks like he contributed quite a bit.
Besides helping to bring computers into our homes.
He had a hand in movies that came out of Pixar. Toy Story, Monsters, etc.
With the iPod he pretty much put record stores out of business when he started up iTunes.
And he upped the ante with the iPhone. He made all the other handset makers have to play catch up and try to rival the iPhone.

He was an innovator for sure.

posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 05:36 PM
While the same can be said for Android app developers...

iPhone Developers Go From Rags to Riches

Rags to Riches, The Overnight Millionaires of the App Store

Without Steve Jobs, these people would probably still be working 9-5 jobs...

posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 06:17 PM
I believe Steve Jobs had the best intentions when he created all these wonderful devices and that he has contributed a wealth of opportunity for all of us. The problem is that unfortunately people are not using them responsibly and are addicted in a way that their personal interactions with those around them are sorely impersonal. We have all seen the negativeness of technology. Family gatherings are not what they should be, some of those present, my son and his wife, and son-in-law included are glued to their devices the constant briiing, bliing (or whatever tune they have downloaded to alert them of who is calling or texting) of the device going off when you are trying to maintain a conversation with them. Very annoying. They may as well not even be there. May Steve rest in peace and as an earlier post stated, you can have all the money in the world, but it won't buy you a ticket to longevity and it won't replace the family you failed to be close to as they were put 2nd to innovation and technology. Yes he made a sacrifice so that we could all be connected, but was the sacrifice worth the ultimate price he paid and that some of us are now paying with the loss of our own families to the apps and devices they are addicted to that have replaced any closeness or inclusion in person in our own lives?

posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 06:33 PM
The OP is a commentary on the moral development of our times rather than any attack on Steve Jobs. In that sense the OP is a thoughtful and positive statement. The world is at the developmental stage as a whole of selfish materialism and vanity—i.e. the success of Steve Jobs.

He gave the world the toys they wanted to distract them from their misery and unfulfilled unhappiness, in that sense he was good to the world.

posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 06:59 PM

Originally posted by MasterGemini

Originally posted by phantomjack
Pathetic. The OP is racist for even creating this thread, and to accuse Jobs of being a part of slavery?

This thread was created for no other reason than to cause racial hostilities, which, is the entire plot of the Obama administration. Its a means to their end, to create a race war and civil unrest.

What did Steve Jobs give us? Its not even worth trying to answer the question.

Exploitation? Guess what, OP. Those people who worked at Apple overseas worked there for a wage, which they agreed to. They were not exploited or forced to do anything.

Insensitive? You bet I am. Thugs like you are the reason for the problems seen on the streets today: Blame the white man.

You want a green earth? Commit suicide and do us all a favor by wiping out your own footprint.

LoL actually its thugs like YOU that there are problems on the street today

Really? How exactly is that? Would you care to explain yourself?

posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 07:18 PM
I heard he had ruffly 350 billion in personal wealth when he died. And had undergone various replacement organs but the cancer was just too strong. Heres my question. If you know your going to die from a fatal cancer in x-amount of years and you have all that money at your disposal, and the organ transplants were being rejected by the body why not have yourself cloned. Yeah I know that sounds a bit odd, but theyve been cloning animals for over 30 years. Without any ill effect ont he cloned animals. I know human cloning is supposed to be baned. But what if for the super elite and no matter what you might think of Mr Jobs he was a super elite. Who's to say he didn't have himself cloned. Course they would bury the old body and the new steve jobs clone could continue on with a nice normal life span and he could continue to work on inovations that would be secreted out into the puplic domain. course then he would never be able to be seen in public again. But its not like he would be hurting for money gads 350 billion in personal wealth I can't even fathom how long it would take to spend that kind of money. And yes secretive cloning facility woul;d be rather expensive but not for the super elite.

Mr Jobs was a man in his own class, few which have lived in the past or today will even come close. So why die at 56 years young when you can live as a clone...and control all that wealth.. is something to speculate..

posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 07:19 PM
reply to post by Muckster

He didn't "give" anyone anything. He made you pay for your i-pods and i-pads. In fact if he gave you anything it was an empty wallet.

posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 07:20 PM
reply to post by phantomjack

He was notorious for treating his employees terribly. So is Bill Gates for that matter. In the end, they were just ruthless businessmen who don't care about people.

from jack
Really? And what evidence to you bring to the table to support your claim?

How about accounts from people who have worked for him???
Abusive bosses don't suffer for their behavior, if they produce
Straight from the workers mouth.. Dude seriously get off your
APPLE and do some research. then go watch Pirates Of Silicon Valley
might learn a thing or two about your god mr. Jobs.

How about you explain that one first jack????

posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 07:26 PM
What did Steve Jobs do for the world?

Apple, Inc., is exploring a new business opportunity: spyware and what we're calling "traitorware." While users were celebrating the new jailbreaking and unlocking exemptions, Apple was quietly preparing to apply for a patent on technology that, among other things, would allow Apple to identify and punish users who take advantage of those exemptions or otherwise tinker with their devices. This patent application does nothing short of providing a roadmap for how Apple can — and presumably will — spy on its customers and control the way its customers use Apple products. As Sony-BMG learned, spying on your customers is bad for business. And the kind of spying enabled here is especially creepy — it's not just spyware, it's "traitorware," since it is designed to allow Apple to retaliate against you if you do something Apple doesn't like.

And no, the government didn't make him apply for a patent for it.

Shares of iPhone maker Apple (AAPL) are modestly higher despite the controversial revelation that the wildly popular smartphone may be smarter than some users would like it to be as the iPhone was discovered collecting and storing location information, even when its location services feature was turned off in a test conducted by the Wall Street Journal. The data appear to be collected using cellphone towers and Wi-Fi access points near user’s phone, but does not appear to be transmitted back to Apple, the Journal reported.

And just where was the data being transported to? Steve Jobs was no hero. May he RIP but don't delude yourselves into thinking he was some kind of saint. He could have said no to all the shady things he was doing.

posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 07:37 PM

Originally posted by LordGoofus

  1. He co-created the Apple II, which bought computers into schools, businesses and homes. This started moving computers out of the realm of room-sized, "geek" tools and into the world of office productivity.
  2. He helped invent the Macintosh, which changed computing forever by introducing the concept of a graphical interface and a mouse. Things that we now take for granted... drag & drop, recycle bin and many other features that today you barely even notice.
  3. He helped develop the Apple IIc which was one of the worlds first small form factor computers and started the path towards what we now know as "laptops". The smaller, friendlier machine with a nice GUI also started off the concept of "usability" and "user friendliness". Something that even today companies are still fine tuning and trying to perfect.
  4. Delivered the first printer capable of using Postscript at the same time that Pagemaker was released. Pagemaker was a massive hit with publishers, and Postscript is still used extensively today by graphic designers and publishers (mostly without them even realizing they are using it).
  5. He bought Pixar when it was just a fledging company, and turned it into the monster animation studio that it is today. Toy Story? Monsters Inc? Finding Nemo? Wall-E? Cars? all those movies your kids love..thank Steve and his desire for Pixar to become a leading graphical rendering company for that.
  6. When he got kicked out of Apple, he ran off and started "NeXT". It was never massively popular with the popular but gained a big following in academic and programming circles due to the systems speed. The worlds first web server and web browser were written on a NeXT box.
  7. Although other music players already existed, the iPod forever changed the personal music player landscape and resulted in pretty much all it's competitors copying the design & functionality in one way or another. It was as big a change as moving from "Walkmans" to "Portable CD Players".
  8. MacOS X further brought user friendliness to the masses, but retained it's BSD roots under the shell to keep power users happy. At the time it was much easier for the computer uneducated to use than a Windows machine.
  9. He lead the way for the introduction of "Apple stores" at a time where most computer retailers had poorly trained staff that couldn't help with technical issues & confusing prices and specs for odd-matched machines. Personally I hate the Apple stores, but I can't deny that they were a genius move that to this day continues to drive Apple consumerism/culture.
  10. iTunes to date is the only successful electronic delivery platform for a wide range of music, videos, books and more that hasn't suffered from the wrath of the recording studios. Before iTunes, you had to know how to rip a CD, use a P2P program or know which websites to goto to download media. With iTunes, anyone can simply login, hit purchase and a short time later be enjoying a new album, or a new movie, or reading a new e-book.
  11. The iPhone completely changed the face of smartphones almost overnight, with it's sleek appearance, touch screen and user friendly interface. Nearly all smart phones being released these days mimick the iPhone in some shape or form.
  12. MaxBook Air introduced the concept of "Ultrabooks". Ultra-light, small form factor laptops designed for maximum portability.
  13. Before the iPad the general public had no idea what a "TabletPC" was, or why they were useful. Even today competitors are still racing to try and come up with a strong rival for the iPad.
  14. The Belinda & Bill gates foundation is one of the largest philanthropic companies in the world. Through the foundation he donated billions of dollars towards HIV research, child vaccinations, to the TB vaccination foundation and many other organisations aimed at improving global health & reducing poverty.

What a great post- thankyou...It's amazing how much people have forgotten what this man did! S & F for you!!!

posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 07:45 PM
I'll probably have to wait a while and re-read this thread later to get anything out of it. Steve's passing really effected me in a way I didn't expect. His passion for life was inspiring and his gadgets have made my life easier. I understand that Apple is a corporation, and is likely not in good standing with many ATSers; however, I can only speak for myself and say Steve's iToys have made my life easier and more enjoyable. I'm now connected with my music, that I love, everywhere I go. I have a computer that's never had a virus, and a tablet computer which has made college much more organized for me.

I understand that his devices have only really benefitted the 'first world' but that doesn't mean I'm not grateful for what he's created.

posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 08:15 PM
i've been talking about this exact thing since the announcement. everybody "awww steve jobs died". while the way he died sucks, all he has done is contribute to the moronic dumbing down of society to make a buck. he was just like any other greedy corporate business man. he didn't care about progress unless it had a stop in his wallet.

so thanks steve jobs for all these wonderful gadgets you have brought us. because of you, i can double my lazyness

posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 08:28 PM
reply to post by Beavers

steve, respect him or not, did bring the iphone to the world.

Long before the iPhone Motorola had a PDA attachment for their Star Tac phone. Before that there was the IBM Simon. It was a cell phone, fax, pager, calendar, date book, word processor, had e-mail access, included games, and used a touch screen with an on screen keyboard.

Steve Jobs perfected the marketing of a 15 year old idea.

posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 08:28 PM
I was waiting for this thread to pop up. Here's your answer:

Steve Jobs has heavily influenced every single phone, tablet, computer on the market today. He is a milestone in our story, and your beloved Android would not exist in it's current form had Steve Jobs not offered his mind to these industries.

It amazes me how people squirm at the applaud of a key inventor and radical thinker, but don't have a problem when a superficial hollywood star is honoured to a far greater extent.
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posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 08:30 PM
I think the purpose behind the name iPhone and iPad are singular, meaning - it's all about you, the individual. As in it's yours, made for you and about you, it's what your doing. Hence the "i".
edit on 6-10-2011 by Staroth because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 08:31 PM
reply to post by Muckster

No offence but what did YOU achieve in your life!?!?!? Don't disrespect the dead.

posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 08:32 PM
He redefined technology and gave us what we have today.

Because of Jobs, I now have an excellent computer where I can do non-linear video editing and get a paycheck after paycheck.

Maybe its just personal, but America lost a great iconic figure that everyone should and can look up to.

posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 08:33 PM
reply to post by Evanzsayz


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