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Something going on at Occupy San Fransisco and Occupy St Louis

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posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 05:21 AM
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Originally posted by here4awhile
reply to post by thehoneycomb
 


I know you're going to make more assumptions but here goes...

Lower and middle class citizens have, over the years, slowly been stripped of their social freedoms, their justice, and their own economic freedom in america...when they stand up and fight for it...it is claimed socialist...I can see how it can be seen as such...but it's not right...

When 84% of the total wealth is owned by the top 20% of americans...it's plain to see that the middle class really isn't the middle class but the lower class separated by a large heap of money that seems to be made up out of thin air...

The lower and middle class does not have the luxuries of the upper 20% simply because they are one lay-off or tragedy away from being bumped down into the lower class...

I do not fight for fully socialist ideas...I fight for social freedom and mostly equal society where the "american dream" exists not only in our dreams...but in reality...
edit on 6-10-2011 by here4awhile because: (no reason given)


Okay okay already...
It's all okay, no body in the movement is being fooled by the "taboo" words like Socialist - Communist - or whatever...
Of course there are socialist and communists and probably even people who hate dogs, because it's about everyone... No one is gonna let the movement be co-opted either... Those rules are already in place and quickly spread on the ground at the movement sites... Peaceful respectful and no affiliation with a group unless the group is seperate from the movement and is merely there for support (like the transit union in NYC)... This time it's about people just everyday people... Think of how the Stewart/Colbert rally went but this is much bigger...



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 05:22 AM
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of course the city croney's would be protecting their assets ant bank of america of all places...lol



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 05:23 AM
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Originally posted by here4awhile
reply to post by trika3000
 


of course the city croney's would be protecting their assets ant bank of america of all places...lol


This should start getting everyone upset (sadly it probably won't)



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 05:24 AM
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and that's what i've been conveying here...people finally stand up for what they believe is right for the general populace and somebody always has to show up and call them socialist or communist pigs like in this thread and many others...



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 05:24 AM
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Isn't it an F'd up situation when you have to go to a LIVESTREAM for news about this??

I hope you guys over there get these greedy scum and destroy what THEY stand for.
GOOD LUCK & STAY SAFE PEOPLE



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 05:30 AM
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Originally posted by R3N3G4D3
Isn't it an F'd up situation when you have to go to a LIVESTREAM for news about this??

I hope you guys over there get these greedy scum and destroy what THEY stand for.
GOOD LUCK & STAY SAFE PEOPLE


the guy from livestream just said he has over 4000 viewers world wide right now
www.livestream.com...

And the eyes of the world are watching now

FEED JUST WENT DEAD
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posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 05:34 AM
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occupy Atlanta begins tomorrow OCT - 7th at 6pm

occupy Tampa starts in a few hours
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posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 07:25 AM
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Occupy Britain starts pretty soon too. Pissed off students, pissed off lower class citizens and the likely-hood of people laid off while the bankers earned a huge profit. I can see this turning pretty bad. Just one spark.

You know the UK police are sneaky bastards too, remember they placed a Matrix-Van in the middle of the students and basically said GO WILD!! Then on the news STUDENTS ATTACK POLICE VAN... Time for the people to rise.



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 07:26 AM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
I hope they arrest everyone that gets out of line.

You have a right to assemble peaceably and protest. Provided that you have obtained a city permit and are respectful of the law.

But no one can guarantee your safety or those around you and if you are violent, vandalize and are lawless you should be arrested.


Where in the constitution does it say you need a permit to protest or exercise your freedom of speech. Show me one line in our Constitution that we need a permit to protest or speak our minds STFU.

What happens when the law is not respectful of you and violate your rights. What then? You have no Clue do you?



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 07:29 AM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
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You think they enjoy babysitting?


Isn't that what cops do all day? for everyone?



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 07:33 AM
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Yeah the cops are babysitting?

Way to have no clue at all what you're talking about.

Yeah, the oppressed masses crying out for Justice and Freedom are just babies.

See the thinking of those who don't care about anyone but themselves?

Hey, if you think this protest is full of babies, you're an idiot. Just ask a few people, they'll tell you. Idiot.
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posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 07:37 AM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
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Huh thats funny, I don't think anyone took an oath to defend the constitution accept for maybe the cops.

And uh yeah, getting in peoples way, looting, vandalizing, shutting down streets and businesses is not assembling peacefully der-dum-duh, thats why you need a permit.
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We didn't take an oath to defend the constitution? Than maybe we don't have to follow it, I mean we didn't take an oath or anything to defend it. So if we are not defending it. Why should we follow it.

Nowhere in the constitution does it say you have to be permitted to protest or practice free speech. No one is looting or vandalizing. Getting in peoples way and shutting down streets. Well isn't the point of a protest to get the attention of the masses? There is no violence at all from these protesters. But apparently according to your definition they should all be locked up because they don't have a permit and are violent, looting, vandalizing protesters. I think you need to get a permit to post in these forums. You have no idea what your talking about. Nor in my opinion are you an American. You probably support Obama too. You are awesome.



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 07:49 AM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
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Please dude, the cops are just doing their jobs.

You think they enjoy babysitting?


If they dont like their job they should quit



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 08:48 AM
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I agree it is going to get worse. As more people hear of the lies and deception being spewed in the news and the media.

The people cannot take much more of this.

People are sick of the entitlements this admin and all the programs and crap they have created.


For what . Oh you mean to tell us this is for our well being.

Hog wash.

Oh btw tha avatar you have is a little offensive.

It kind of looks like my flag upside down on fire.



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 08:57 AM
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"They're just doing their jobs". What a loaded piece of crap statement that is. Their job is to serve and protect the people, not the bankers. It may not be their fault they are sold out and doing evil, but it doesn't make it better. I hope they all quit and join in. Hell I hope everyone does, Greek style. Shut down this machine, and restart it for a better future. It has to happen, and soon.



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 09:33 AM
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As soon as you place limits on freedom of speech you no longer live in a free country. Not that I think we do but it does prove how 'unfree' we are.



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 09:35 AM
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This is probably a dumb question. But since there isn't
much info out there, what is the ultimate goal of all this?
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posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 09:44 AM
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Nothing's going on. just a bunch of hippie kids with no jobs mad about something they can't even explain. in a few days they'll all go home and go back to playing their nintendo or whatever they do these days, ipad or some other useless crap. They'll go back to thinking iraq and afghanistan and pakistan and libya did 911, vaccines are good for you, that we have to spend money we don't have in order to make money, that we need socialized bail outs for the banks and privatized profits for people, and that we need more war to spread our great and wonderful democracy but grandma bubba jane needs to keep working in order to get her social security, which she paid in to all her life, to pay grand pappy's diabetes medicine and heart medicine, this same democracy that put us where we are today. God bless america...and no one else! Praise israel!



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by snewpers
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This is probably a dumb question. But since there isn't
much info out there, what is the ultimate goal of all this?
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Here is a link to the 99% - before someone ignorant (or otherwise) starts saying it's hippies or rable rousers
wearethe99percent.tumblr.com...

Here is a LiveFeed link to many of the events taking place around the country... Sit and read the side comments as the feed plays on the livelink as it will give you some insight
www.livestream.com...

This movement isn't some college kid phase or something that is going away (just because the MSM is kinda ignoring it)

No one is going to tell you what you believe, who to follow, or what you should do... it's up to you to make up your own mind... times they are a changin'

PS... Germany, Belgium and England are now starting Occupy sites

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posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 10:23 AM
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Thanks for those links. I've already seen them. But I'm
still a bit confused as to what the objective is.

German, Belgium and UK too? Hmm that's getting close.
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