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Here is a counter argument for your points:
1. On UFO Hunters locals have spoken to have seen vents, they climbed up the Archuleta Mesa to see of there is anything, the local guy who was with them said he didnt want to go where there could be a possible entrance to it. He was scared and this was unhelpful, also I've heard there are Tribal Police - reasons to not wanto to go but still,. you may have not looked at the right place.
2. Electrical power could be all underground cables deep below and they could make connection with the nearest power planet or have one underground. Like ever heard of underground cables?
3. How about if they have dug so deep below, humans are on higher levels, sewer could be within the base and going somewhere deeper or better yet - they have ways to evaporate the organic waste, nothing so high tech? So ever seen underground facilities anywhere there would be some sewers coming ouf them? I dont think you are familiar with how sewers and underground facilities would work..
4. Ya right, cars and trucks will be moving on daily bases and disappearing in the mountains.. right. They dont even do it in Area51 where people come by planes, same would go for supplies? From the air?
6. They may be working together, you don't know that for sure do you?
I think the exact show (UFO Hunters) mention in 1 revealed that there could be an underground facility under a hotel, no one ever noticed... so what makes you think therre could be no base there?
You may say 'UFO Hunters, you give that as an example' but the experiments they do are real and some things like going to that underground bunker under the hotel is useful and makes it clear your points are not a reason to not exist.
Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
reply to post by Imtor
Basically, my argument boils down to this:
If you have the technology and money to build, staff and operate a DUMB without leaving any vents, wires, plumbing or truck traffic in the middle of rural Indian lands, New Mexico....
Then why not just build it under downtown Albuquerque, and save all that money? Better yet, build it on the surface, at an existing military base.
The only reason area 51 is so remote is so they could test flying craft unseen. Dulce isn't used for that; so it could take place in any lab in any warehouse district in the US. why build it out in the middle of nowhere?
Originally posted by FreedomCommander
reply to post by g60kg
Dulce Base, New Mexico Functions: Alien interface, Research of mind related functions.
Levels: 1-7 Known ·
Level 1 - garage for STREET MAINTENANCE. ·
Level 2 - garage for TRAINS, SHUTTLES, TUNNEL BORING MACHINES, AND DISC MAINTENANCE. ·
Level 3 - everyone is weighed, in the nude, then given a jump suit uniform. The weight of the person is put on a computer I.D. card each day. change in over three pounds requires a physical exam and X-ray. ·
Level 4 - Human research in the Occult areas - Auras - mental telepathy - hypnosis - astral traveling - etc. The technology is apparently here to allow them to know how to manipulate the Bioplasmic Body (of Man). In other works they can remove the ’soul’ of the human and turn it into a vessel to be used by another entity, in order to allow it to work and operate in the physical realm.. They can lower your heartbeat with Deep Sleep ’Delta Waves,’ induce a static shock, then reprogram, Via a Brain- Computer link. They can introduce data and programmed reactions into your Mind ·
Level 5 - Alien housing is on level 5. "...The room circular for the (electromagnetic) generator is nearly 200 feet diameter and covers the fifth and sixth levels (extreme west south wing). There (are) five entrances (plus an escape trap door on the sixth floor) on each floor. Each portal has double door. The security is severe. Armed guards patrol constantly, and in addition to weight sensitive areas there (are) hand print and eye print stations. Here, is the device that powers the transfer of atoms. ·
Level 6 - Level 6 is privately called ’Nightmare Hall’. It holds the genetic labs. Experiments done on fish, seals, birds, and mice that are vastly altered from their original, forms. There are multi- armed and multi-legged humans and several cages (and vats) of humanoid bat-like creatures up to 7-feet tall. Aliens have taught the humans a lot about genetics, things both useful and dangerous. ·
Level 7 - Humans in cages here, usually drugged or dazed, sometimes crying out for help. LEVEL #7 is the worst. Row after row of 1,000’s of humans & humanmixture remains in cold storage. Here too are embryos of humanoids in various stages of development. Also, many human children’s’ remains in storage vats. Who are (were) these people?" ·
Below Level 7 - Unknown other levels unexplored by humans. Aliens here. Exits into a vast underground cavern series, unexplored by humans, but suspected to be a huge alien culture area.
Tunnels to: Colorado Springs, Colorado Creed, Colorado Datil, N.M. Los Alamos. Page, Arizona Sandia Base Taos, N.M. Notes: The Dulce installation (upper levels) was originally constructed by the RAND corp. There are reported to be over 3000 cameras at various high-security locations. Deep sections of the Complex may CONNECT INTO (EXTENSIVE) NATURAL CAVERN SYSTEMS.
An underground Military Base/Laboratory in Dulce, New Mexico connects with the
underground network of tunnels which honeycombs our planet, and the lower levels of this
base are allegedly under the control of Inner Earth beings or Aliens. This base is connected to
Los Alamos research facilities via an underground "tube-shuttle." (It can be assumed that such
a shuttle way would be a straight-line construction. It should then be possible, by using maps
and some deduction, to determine the most likely location of this base, especially since the
general location is already known.) Beginning in 1947, a road was built near the Dulce Base,
under the cover of a lumber company. No lumber was ever hauled, and the road was later
destroyed. Navajo Dam is the Dulce Base’s main source of power, though a second source is
in El Vado (which is also another entrance). (Note: The above facts should also help to locate
I googled Project Manequin and found this...
Originally posted by relocator. Navajo Dam is the Dulce Base’s main source of power,
Originally posted by Tindalos2013
I have not really looked to deeply into the whole Dulce Base and evidence for it but I came across the following website that may give some plausabiltiy of how the Dulce underground base could have been constructed.
Earthscraperedit on 7-10-2011 by Tindalos2013 because: typo.
Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
What is it they are trying to accomplish with this particular base.
Originally posted by Wookie264
Here is a link to an interesting thread on the topic:
This talks about how using seismic data, one can see that during a certain time period, the earthquakes in the Dulce area seem to line up in an oddly symmetrical way. Disregard his theory about the door and the triangle, because the "door in the mountain" is actually an error that appears every 2.2 miles in google earth.
Here is another interesting site in which you can make your own judgements about: