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Stop Your Steve Jobs lies!! Dr. Mark Dean Invented the PC And He's A Black Man (can it be true??)

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posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 08:48 PM
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My way of thinking also, having witnessed the evolution of semiconductor transistors into logic chips, microprocessors and memory devices. There are great accolades for people who find new ways to connect the devices together but not enough for those real pioneers who create the basic building blocks. The cornerstones of modern PCs would have to be devices like the 8080, 6502, 2650 etc that formed the heart of the earliest personal computers but their inventors are not household names.




posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by Chai_An

Originally posted by kimish
... He was inducted into the H.F....

Granted, he does deserve his due respect amongst the general populous such as the others have gotten.

Why make this a race issue? Isn't it folks like you that keep the cycle going?? honest question.
edit on 5-10-2011 by kimish because: (no reason given)


You asked a excellent question. The reason is if you've read many posts on this site then you know many think blacks have not contributed anything other than to entertainment and sports. The OP pointed out this man has given the world something substantial yet he's not known for it. When people think of computers they think of Steve Jobs and Bill Gates but not this man. Actually when someone point out anything positive in regards to American blacks on this site it's immediately summed up to be negative and "racist".


I understand but where is the credit given to the umpteen number of people that also contributed. Surely the man in the OP wasn't the only one. The reason the man was brought up in the first place is there for all to be seen.

I do agree to an extant that blacks do not get a lot of credit for past contributions but how big were their contributions really? And what about peoples of other races and ethnicities that have given contributions? It is the people that make the Largest contributions that get the recognition, generally.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 08:49 PM
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I have to say there are probably at least 100 engineers who work at apple who bristle everytime jobs gets credit for their work.

jobs is a marketer and a design guy for the most part



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 08:52 PM
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The Apple II introduced in 1977 did have a disk drive.

Dr. Dean worked on the ISA bus which was for a different product introduced 5 after the first PCs.
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posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by ProphecyPhD
Inventors of the Modern Computer

As a member of an IBM research team to develop a more effective desktop computer, which ultimately became known as the IBM PC, Dr. Dean and his colleague Dennis Moeller created the interior architecture allowing the computer to share information with peripheral devices such as disk drives, printers and scanners.


CREATED THE INTERIOR ARCHITECTURE ALLOWING THE COMPUTER TO SHARE INFORMATION WITH PERIPHERAL DEVICES SUCH AS DISK DRIVES, PRINTERS AND SCANNERS.

Debunk that my friend



Dr. Mark Dean Computer Inventions

Dr. Mark Dean started working at IBM in 1980 and was instrumental in the invention of the Personal Computer (PC). He holds three of IBM's original nine PC patents and currently holds more than 20 total patents. The famous African-American inventor never thought the work he was doing would end up being so useful to the world, but he has helped IBM make instrumental changes in areas ranging from the research and application of systems technology circuits to operating environments. One of his most recent computer inventions occurred while leading the team that produced the 1-Gigahertz chip, which contains one million transistors and has nearly limitless potential.


In 1976, Apple's two Steves (Jobs and Wozniak) designed the Apple I,


In 1976, Apple's two Steves (Jobs and Wozniak) designed the Apple I, Apple's only "kit" computer (you had to add a keyboard, power supply, and enclosure to the assembled motherboard), around the 6502 processor. That was also the year the first word processing program (Electric Pencil) and the first text adventure for microcomputers (Adventure) were released. Shugart introduced the 5.25" floppy drive; it would become a key component in the personal computing revolution. The young industry exploded in 1977 as Apple introduced the Apple II, a color computer with expansion slots and floppy drive support; Radio Shack rolled out the TRS-80; Commodore tapped into the pet rock craze with its PET; Digital Research released CP/M, the 8-bit operating system that provided the template for MS-DOS; and the first ComputerLand franchise store (then Computer Shack) opened.


Debunked.

His definitely had a big influence in the growth of PC's but he did this as an employee of IBM and didn't start working there until 1980, whereas Steve Jobs and the Woz created the Apple I in (1975 Start starting from a garage with a wooden case) 1976, then introduced the Apple IIe in 1977 which I can tell you gained wide spread use within the business market. In 1988 when I started working as a lab technician at a fortune 500 chemical company the majority of personal desktop computers they were using were Apple IIe's.
edit on 10/5/11 by Pixiefyre because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 08:59 PM
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edit on 5-10-2011 by kimish because: I didn't find it relevant to the discussion at hand, great point for the racists though



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 09:01 PM
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A chip does not a PC make.

We have quantum super computers now a days. How many people do you know who can afford or even use these things? For someone to take a quantum computer and make it affordable and useable for the average person (not to mention small enough) is the equivalent of what Dr Mark Dean did.

He made it possible for PC's to be able to interact with you disk drives, mouse, scanner, printer, keyboard ect.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by ProphecyPhD
reply to post by Blackmarketeer
 


A chip does not a PC make.

We have quantum super computers now a days. How many people do you know who can afford or even use these things? For someone to take a quantum computer and make it affordable and useable for the average person (not to mention small enough) is the equivalent of what Dr Mark Dean did.

He made it possible for PC's to be able to interact with you disk drives, mouse, scanner, printer, keyboard ect.


Bill Gates makes it possible for only non-whites to work for him. Look it up.

third line.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by ProphecyPhD
He made it possible for PC's to be able to interact with you disk drives, mouse, scanner, printer, keyboard ect.


Again, he made it possible for IBM PC's to be able to interact with peripherals.

Apple PC's had already been doing it for 5 years.


edit on 5-10-2011 by daskakik because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by Pixiefyre

Originally posted by ProphecyPhD
Inventors of the Modern Computer

As a member of an IBM research team to develop a more effective desktop computer, which ultimately became known as the IBM PC, Dr. Dean and his colleague Dennis Moeller created the interior architecture allowing the computer to share information with peripheral devices such as disk drives, printers and scanners.


CREATED THE INTERIOR ARCHITECTURE ALLOWING THE COMPUTER TO SHARE INFORMATION WITH PERIPHERAL DEVICES SUCH AS DISK DRIVES, PRINTERS AND SCANNERS.

Debunk that my friend



Dr. Mark Dean Computer Inventions

Dr. Mark Dean started working at IBM in 1980 and was instrumental in the invention of the Personal Computer (PC). He holds three of IBM's original nine PC patents and currently holds more than 20 total patents. The famous African-American inventor never thought the work he was doing would end up being so useful to the world, but he has helped IBM make instrumental changes in areas ranging from the research and application of systems technology circuits to operating environments. One of his most recent computer inventions occurred while leading the team that produced the 1-Gigahertz chip, which contains one million transistors and has nearly limitless potential.


In 1976, Apple's two Steves (Jobs and Wozniak) designed the Apple I,


In 1976, Apple's two Steves (Jobs and Wozniak) designed the Apple I, Apple's only "kit" computer (you had to add a keyboard, power supply, and enclosure to the assembled motherboard), around the 6502 processor. That was also the year the first word processing program (Electric Pencil) and the first text adventure for microcomputers (Adventure) were released. Shugart introduced the 5.25" floppy drive; it would become a key component in the personal computing revolution. The young industry exploded in 1977 as Apple introduced the Apple II, a color computer with expansion slots and floppy drive support; Radio Shack rolled out the TRS-80; Commodore tapped into the pet rock craze with its PET; Digital Research released CP/M, the 8-bit operating system that provided the template for MS-DOS; and the first ComputerLand franchise store (then Computer Shack) opened.


Debunked.

His definitely had a big influence in the growth of PC's but he did this as an employee of IBM and didn't start working there until 1980, whereas Steve Jobs and the Woz created the Apple I in (1975 Start starting from a garage with a wooden case) 1976, then introduced the Apple IIe in 1977 which I can tell you gained wide spread use within the business market. In 1988 when I started working as a lab technician at a fortune 500 chemical company the majority of personal desktop computers they were using were Apple IIe's.
edit on 10/5/11 by Pixiefyre because: (no reason given)


You are talking about businesses. When was the first time you owned your own PERSONEL COMPUTER?

Not at work or at school, what was the FIRST common personal computer?

IBM!!



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by ProphecyPhD
reply to post by Blackmarketeer
 


He made it possible for PC's to be able to interact with you disk drives, mouse, scanner, printer, keyboard ect.


Actually the Apple IIe connected with a mouse, disk drive, scanner, printer, and to the company lan where I worked. And that was as shown above created in 1976.

Now Kudo's to Mr Dean for how instrumental he was in the development of the PC and moving them into the public market. And even more Kudo's to him for one thing you didn't mention about him which you really should have proudly and shame on you for that


Dr. Mark Dean Computer Inventions


One of his most recent computer inventions occurred while leading the team that produced the 1-Gigahertz chip, which contains one million transistors and has nearly limitless potential.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by ProphecyPhD


You are talking about businesses. When was the first time you owned your own PERSONEL COMPUTER?

Not at work or at school, what was the FIRST common personal computer?

IBM!!


No I am not strictly talking about business, many had that through magazine sales and Homebrew computer club meetings etc.. I used the reference to business to show that the Apple IIe became so popular not only was it used by the small amount of personal home computer users, but that it found wide spread appeal in the business market.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 09:24 PM
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The Commodore Vic 20 was one of the first wide spread home use PC's to gain major pubic attention in 1980

Personal Computing History

1980 was the year Commodore opened the floodgates of home computing with the $299 VIC-20. Sinclair tried to one-up them with a $199 kit computer, the ZX80, which was quite popular in Britain, but it was destined to remain a bit player in the PC industry. The same can be said of Radio Shack's fairly impressive TRS-80 Color Computer, which suffered primarily from complete incompatibility with its existing TRS-80 line.


And below following shortly after that was the IBM PC (which Mr. Mark Dean Contributed to.

Personal Computing History

The IBM PC Of course, the most significant event of 1981 for the personal computing industry was the introduction of the IBM PC on August 12. This computer ran a 16-bit CPU on an 8-bit bus (the Intel 8088), had five expansion slots, included at least 16 KB of RAM, and had two full-height 5.25" drive bays. Buyers could get a fairly loaded machine with a floppy controller, two floppy drives, a monochrome display adapter and monitor, a color display adapter and monitor, a parallel card, a dot matrix printer, and an operating system - with the choice of CP/M-86, the UCSD p-System, or PC-DOS (a.k.a. MS-DOS). Pretty much everything was an option, and everyone recognized that the IBM PC was based on ideas perfected in the Apple II, particularly general use expansion slots.


He definitely had a big impact on the Home Computer field, but he did not invent PC's. Kudo's to him for the work he did and his great contributions no doubt about that he definately deserves to be appreciated ..... no matter what race he is.....even if he were purple with green polka dots!

And I'll tell you those purple with green polka dots people don't get near enough publicity



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by ProphecyPhD


Why is this man virtually unknown even by those who use computers every day of their life? The answer to that one is clear and obvious. I don't even have to tell you.


Er.. because he's Black?

Dude, what kinda racist are you?

He was an employee of IBM - a team member doing his job for the company. That's why he is not held in esteem like Bill and Steve. Now if he would have left IBM and went out and made a name for himself then that would be different. As an employee of IBM he does not own or have any claim or right to his work. His work the intellectual property, belongs to the company.

That's how things work in the corporate world. He knows this, is happy with his position in life. It is not for you to say otherwise especially turning HIS DECISION into a race thing.

Besides, he did not invent the PC. He contributed to the PC. Just like a lot of other people. Study the history of the PC to learn the truth. arstechnica.com...

BTW, we had personal computers way before he went to work for IBM in 1980.

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posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by kimish

Originally posted by Chai_An

Originally posted by kimish
... He was inducted into the H.F....

Granted, he does deserve his due respect amongst the general populous such as the others have gotten.

Why make this a race issue? Isn't it folks like you that keep the cycle going?? honest question.
edit on 5-10-2011 by kimish because: (no reason given)


You asked a excellent question. The reason is if you've read many posts on this site then you know many think blacks have not contributed anything other than to entertainment and sports. The OP pointed out this man has given the world something substantial yet he's not known for it. When people think of computers they think of Steve Jobs and Bill Gates but not this man. Actually when someone point out anything positive in regards to American blacks on this site it's immediately summed up to be negative and "racist".


I understand but where is the credit given to the umpteen number of people that also contributed. Surely the man in the OP wasn't the only one. The reason the man was brought up in the first place is there for all to be seen.

I do agree to an extant that blacks do not get a lot of credit for past contributions but how big were their contributions really? And what about peoples of other races and ethnicities that have given contributions? It is the people that make the Largest contributions that get the recognition, generally.


No he wasn't the only person to make contributions to computer science however no one ever questioned Jobs, credit was given freely to him. No considerations as to how many unnamed people worked on his staff to make all of Apple's innovations possible but yet Mister Jobs get the credit. So what's wrong with people giving Mister Dean his kudos?

I believe you give credit where it's due regardless to ethnicity, so I have no quorums over others being recognized for their contributions that make life so much easier for me. The people who make the largest contributions are seldom given credit no it's about marketing and PR. Folks on this site get very apprehensive whenever someone mentions black people unless of course these blacks are involved in some stereotypical behavior patterns. Yes the title of this thread could have been worded differently but that don't take away the fact that some people have a problem with the idea of a positive contribution of (dare I say it) a black man. If that last comment don't reflect your feelings then it was not meant for you.
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posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 09:48 PM
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Where are the other contributors kudos? Why him, because he's black? Take a minute and marinate on that.

And, you must have missed where I stated before that the Major Contributors the the credit, generally. In this case Mr. Jobs. He contributed much more than the man of the topic. Understand? Mr. Jobs was the #1 contributor therefore more notoriety.

The title of the thread didn't bother me one bit, it was the very last sentence of the OP. I've learned to read between the lines, so to speak.

Don't make this any more of a race issue than you already have.
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posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by kimish

Originally posted by Chai_An

Originally posted by kimish
... He was inducted into the H.F....

Granted, he does deserve his due respect amongst the general populous such as the others have gotten.

Why make this a race issue? Isn't it folks like you that keep the cycle going?? honest question.
edit on 5-10-2011 by kimish because: (no reason given)


You asked a excellent question. The reason is if you've read many posts on this site then you know many think blacks have not contributed anything other than to entertainment and sports. The OP pointed out this man has given the world something substantial yet he's not known for it. When people think of computers they think of Steve Jobs and Bill Gates but not this man. Actually when someone point out anything positive in regards to American blacks on this site it's immediately summed up to be negative and "racist".


I understand but where is the credit given to the umpteen number of people that also contributed. Surely the man in the OP wasn't the only one. The reason the man was brought up in the first place is there for all to be seen.

I do agree to an extant that blacks do not get a lot of credit for past contributions but how big were their contributions really? And what about peoples of other races and ethnicities that have given contributions? It is the people that make the Largest contributions that get the recognition, generally.


If you read your response you basically prove my point. How big were their contributions? If school actually taught the truth in this country we wouldn't be having this discussion because everyone would know who did what and when. Each person would be given high regards because they put on their thinking caps and made life easier for us all. Instead people are asking to rate the contributions that they so freely take advantage of on a daily basis. Tsk, tsk tsk.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 09:55 PM
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No disrespect to Dean but since the race card has been brought up, I need to ask,

I wonder how many times was he called an Uncle Tom while working hard as a student?
How many times was he accused of not keeping real?

One last question regarding the twinkle in his eye,
... is he gay?



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 09:57 PM
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Exactly, that's why the only reason I've heard of the man is because the OP brought him up.

second line.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by kimish
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Where are the other contributors kudos? Why him, because he's black? Take a minute and marinate on that.

The title of the thread didn't bother me one bit, it was the very last sentence of the OP. I've learned to read between the lines, so to speak.

Don't make this any more of a race issue than you already have.
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Sadly but yes because he's black and we live in a society that have the masses thinking one group people built and know everything which is hardly realistic. Why does the OP last sentence bother you?



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