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Ridiculed crystal work wins Nobel for Israeli

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posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 06:50 PM
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Ridiculed crystal work wins Nobel for Israeli


www.reuters.com

(Reuters) - An Israeli scientist who suffered years of ridicule and even lost a research post for claiming to have found an entirely new class of solid material was awarded the Nobel Prize for chemistry on Wednesday for his discovery of quasicrystals.

Three decades after Daniel Shechtman looked with an electron microscope at a metal alloy and saw a pattern familiar in Islamic art but then unknown at a molecular level, those non-stick, rust-free, heat-resistant quasicrystals are finding their way into tools from LEDs to engines and frying pans.
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posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 06:50 PM
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This story illustrates the problem with science when it becomes all about the money.

It is hard to go against the established theories and takes a whole lot of courage to say something controversial. The threat to your career is very real. This also makes it easy for scientists to be controlled and muzzled.

In the end, this guy was proven right and vindicated.





www.reuters.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
edit on 5-10-2011 by TheComte because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 06:56 PM
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does anybody have a picture of these paterns? they sound interesting

good to see tho! doesnt seem like a very unbelivable thing, wonder why he was ridiculed



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 06:59 PM
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posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by jjjtir
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Nature has one, www.nature.com/news/2011/111005/full/news.2011.572.html


smooth

thanks for the picture it looks amazing



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 07:11 PM
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Do you think it is a coincidence that the patterns closely resemble the Islamic mosaics, or that maybe the ancient Islamic artists were copying something they saw?



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by TheComte
Do you think it is a coincidence that the patterns closely resemble the Islamic mosaics, or that maybe the ancient Islamic artists were copying something they saw?

mmm probably coincidence, ive seen patterns like this from many cultures and other natural sources. such as the aboriginals who do dot paintings..some are simple but some very complex and mosaic.
its most likely they did see something similar, but the way that art develops its just as likely they thought of the design while expanding their knowledge of artisitic techniques and styles



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 07:25 PM
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alternate.

news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2011/10/discoverer-of-impossible-crystal.html

Crystallized. Winner Daniel Shechtman with an inset of the Penrose pattern.
Credit: The Ames Laboratory/DOE



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posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 07:27 PM
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A Nobel Prize these days is about as prestigious as the WWE Divas Championship.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by FOXMULDER147
A Nobel Prize these days is about as prestigious as the WWE Divas Championship.

i think they call that the nobel prize for acting
hey wait why didnt obama win that one?



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 09:11 PM
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I read that article. It is very interesting and I have to look into it more. The funniest thing in the article was "...only quasi scientists." The patterns were non repeating? Good for him for working so hard without letting people bring him down.



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 09:37 AM
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Try doing a google image search for Quasicrystals-there are loads of images.
The patterns look very fractal like to me.
I wonder if this research has implications for nanotechnology?



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 09:45 AM
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The moral of the story is that even if scientists reject research initially because it doesn't match their preconceived notions, they will eventually accept and even reward the research if it is sound. There is no need to set up a webpage that rails about the conspiracy of pseudo-scientist bigots who are persecuting you and covering up your brilliant ideas. And, yes, this has major ramifications for nano-technology.



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 09:51 AM
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Here is a theory for ya...

These patterns in "art" that we see accross the world in many different cultures etc...come from the creative portions of the human mind that find specific patterns "appealing" because the sub-atomic world or foundation of our physical reality speaks to us and manifests its own design (self-replication) through our creations whatever they may be. Most all of our creations ar mimmicing a design that exists sub-atomicaly or in some way created us.

We as a creative species are unknowingly or unconsciously following a blue-print...



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 09:52 AM
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What could we have accomplished if just in this one thing alone, if the intelligent scientists were intelligent enough to consider this idea and just applied it. However we need to wait 30 years to see the effort of the contributions, humanity is slowed down so much by their own processes.



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 10:15 AM
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That picture sort of reminded me of this artwork



found on this blog site: gbenard.blogspot.com...



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 11:02 AM
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Good theory.
I was wondering if the fact we are spiraling though space and time at such high speed has an effect upon how matter holds together.
Things like these quasicrystal patterns and even our own spiral like double helix is constructed.

Man,what a ride!
How little we still know about reality,its awesome.




posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
The moral of the story is that even if scientists reject research initially because it doesn't match their preconceived notions, they will eventually accept and even reward the research if it is sound. There is no need to set up a webpage that rails about the conspiracy of pseudo-scientist bigots who are persecuting you and covering up your brilliant ideas. And, yes, this has major ramifications for nano-technology.


Because the science community often refuses to even LOOK at something that goes against their tightly held belief on a subject many great men who could have forwarded the worlds knowledge instead died, outside their field of study, alone and laughed at, often shamed out of their own studies and never ever funded! It happens again and again and STUPIDITY will not let people open their eyes!
I feel sorry for the short sighted and closed minded!



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by TheComte
Do you think it is a coincidence that the patterns closely resemble the Islamic mosaics, or that maybe the ancient Islamic artists were copying something they saw?


The pattern seen in is PHI, phi has been used in art for century's, it in just about every thing. Google phi, or golden ratio.



posted on Oct, 6 2011 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by TheComte

This story illustrates the problem with science when it becomes all about the money.

It is hard to go against the established theories and takes a whole lot of courage to say something controversial. The threat to your career is very real. This also makes it easy for scientists to be controlled and muzzled.

In the end, this guy was proven right and vindicated.





www.reuters.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
edit on 5-10-2011 by TheComte because: (no reason given)

really? or is it that science demands a lot from a scientist before other scientists agree with him/her?
this isn't about money, claiming it is just shows your lack of knowledge about science.
this is how science works, the way it has always worked, what matters is sound evidence, if you don't have it don't expect people to take you seriously.



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