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Originally posted by Domo1
Well I suppose I was speaking in hyperbole. He will be remembered but comparing Steve Jobs to the Beatles is retarded.
Originally posted by Jason88
reply to post by GoodOlDave
If you cannot sell what you build you are a hobbyist. Apple found itself in that position before re-hiring Steve Jobs. His credits are an incredible marketer for making folks aware of Apple's products. He also played a large part in the design, form factor, usability and UI of Apple devices. He deserves those kudos in my book.
Edit: Apparently he was a good neighbor as well,
Originally posted by RMFX1
Anyway, apple products are hugely overpriced, over-rated and under powered but some people just can't see past the aesthetics and hype. It's like a cult. People don't buy apple products because they're actually usefull. They buy them because they think it gets them into some sort of club.
The RDF was said by Andy Hertzfeld to be Steve Jobs' ability to convince himself and others to believe almost anything with a mix of superficial charm, charisma, bravado, hyperbole, marketing, appeasement, and persistence. RDF was said to distort an audience's sense of proportion and scales of difficulties and made them believe that the task at hand was impossible.
Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by gimme_some_truth
How are you going to now compare him to Bill Gates? Jobs took an idea from someone else, re-branded and sold it to idiots willing to pay 3 times the worth of the product. Again, he was a marketing genius but that's where it ends. I get the retarded Beatles analogy, it's a HORRIBLE one.
In the wake of Steve Jobs’ death, stories of how great a man he was is the current headline across the nation. His accomplishments speak to his genius as one of the world’s leading innovators of the IPhone and IPad. This guy even painted himself as a spiritual person. But even in the midst of his own genius, Steve Jobs had a dark soul. As owner of Apple, he was directly responsible for the production of the IPhone and IPad at factories in China where there had been a countless number of suicides among discontented workers during the months of March and April of this year. At several Foxxconn plants where Apple products are made, there have been horrendous policies in place such as workers being forced to work between 80 and 100 hours of overtime, workers being forced to stand on their feet for 14 hours a day, and workers being forced to sign No-Suicide Pacts as a condition of employment. According to the pact, the families of employees have to promise not to sue the company, cause any trouble that would interrupt operations in case an employee commits suicide, or bring any negative attention to the practices of the company. In addition, employees are literally crammed into company-owned dormitories. Employees living in a single dormitory room range from six to twenty-two. “Some of my roommates weep in the dormitory. I want to cry as well but my tears have not come out,” one worker told SACOM, a Hong Kong-based advocacy group, which contends that many of the practices that led to more than a dozen workers committing suicide in the months of March and April of this year continues to be perpetuated at Foxxconn factories.
Originally posted by yeti101
i think his talent was knowing what the average consumer wanted...
Originally posted by Jason88
reply to post by GoodOlDave
Two points, Dave.
Why are you so angry? And second, you've got to source all those claims. I'm pretty well read, and I've never come across any of that.
He employed many people, kicked the tech sector in the shins and raised the bar for all of us to compete harder, not to mention he helped make computing "cool."
Originally posted by kenny71
Steve Jobs was a complete success story. From being adopted to billionaire. Not only was he a success he wanted to improve the world and the common man with technology. His story is endearing as it is compelling only to be shadowed by the man he was.