Originally posted by Daedal
reply to post by loveguy
The guy makes sense,but right at the beginning he mentioned his friend and "the Friend" said comrade..Then as the video moves forward the gentlemen
speaking mentions Social economic equality.Sounds good..But supporting the word comrade and social in the context of this video representation has me
looking the other way.
edit on 5-10-2011 by Daedal because: (no reason given)
We've done it the OTHER way since the 1970's.
Corrupt Government is NOBODY's idea of Government -- the idea that government is BAD is a self-fulfilling prophesy for failure. There is NO WAY to
solve big problems, organize millions of people, or support commerce without SOME SORT of organization. If you only have anarchy, no rules, and
"winner take all" -- eventually you have ONE winner who "takes it all." The game of Monopoly, we should all notice -- ENDS when one person makes
everyone else bankrupt. The winner however, cannot keep playing when everyone else has no money.
We've been told that "redistributing wealth" is the worst thing ever -- it's stealing by Government. How do you think the rich got richer?
Stealing from us with government. Big Agriculture gets corn subsidies and overpriced fuel. Big Oil gets land for pennies, military troops to secure
cheap wells, tax breaks to drill as if it were a charity. Big Banking gets automatic payments for printing money, and the risk is on the taxpayer but
the profits go to the bankers, and about every 14 years there is a bailout. Do we need more examples?
Businesses are not hiring because there is no market to sell to. There is no market to sell to because wages for the Middle Class have been flat or
trending downward while the growth of wealth at the top has been geometric. Lower wages and outsourcing jobs made more profits for the owners. Greater
wealth and power meant more influence in government. The ENTIRE problem is due to the success and concentration of wealth and power. UNTIL the money
is redistributed -- somehow, there is no reason to EARN it again. The whole point of Progressive taxes isn't about "fairness" -- it's about
preserving Capitalism AND that the only reason to have corporations is to benefit the Public - not to create wealthy, powerful people who can control
Corporations are sitting on trillions of dollars right now -- they have their greatest profits ever.
NOBODY wants the status quo more than those who "won" -- but the entire economic system is breaking down because there is nothing more to WIN. The
last source of "big money" is Social Security and government -- and that is exactly what is being targeted. Contracts for security, contracts to
"manage" public resources, and contracts for prisons.
The only profit to be had now is from turning the middle class into surfs, and when we are no longer wealthy enough to "steal from" anymore, then it
will be corporations targeting each other, until it's just a few corporations running the world.
>> Just as the industrial revolution created massive changes, I think now we are in a situation where increasingly powerful computers are creating the
"end of labor." So many of the jobs left are shuffling paper. Accounting, money transfers, legal. People are cheaper still than robots, but that
will not always be the case -- so the idea that you can work hard, study and always make a living isn't going to be true -- there will always be
people who cannot work as hard and keep up so what do you do with them? There are always winners and losers -- but how much should people win vs.
lose? That's the only real debate here.
Companies and markets cannot grow indefinitely. There are no NEW markets anymore, nor untapped resources that can indefinitely support increasing
consumption. We are up against the carrying capacity of the planet. So unfettered capitalism and unmanaged resources are going to lead to catastrophe
-- we cannot continue doing the same things we have always done.
The FUTURE is either some sort of Democratic Socialism -- or it's War and the spoils go to the winners, and finally they fight amongst themselves.