reply to post by SLAYER69
To start with...
You say:
I support the majority of what the movement is trying to achieve in Principle. I really do. I however refuse to call those who are advocating
Communism, Union involvement and violently overthrowing the Government with the shredding of the Constitution {simply because a small vocal minority
within the movement feels they are entitled to getting a bigger slice of the pie which most of whom haven't gotten off their collective asses and
earned} my Comrades!
The movement does not advocate Communism or any political stance. Most communists are idealogical communists but realise that communism doesn't work
so well in government. Members of communists groups show up, not much can really be done about that. Their concerns are the same as most americans,
because they are communists should they not have a voice? Communism is not illegal in the US. And, how do you go about telling them to go away? How do
you say, I can protest here but you can't?
Unions, personally I don't have a problem with them, in many ways they are a good thing. I support imposing the same donation limits on Unions as
Corporations. I think many in the movement do as well, but it so far isn't a major topic of discussion.
Violently overthrowing the government. I flat out reject that statement, and I think the evidence shows in the beatings and chemical weapons taken
with no riots ensuing shows that I am correct.
A bigger slice of the pie, yes! Absolutely yes! But not in the sense you seem to be taking it. Not in the gimme gimme sense. I don't recall the exact
numbers and I'm too tired to look them up at the moment. In the US and honestly the world, the richest 1% of the population controls 42% of the
wealth. Really think about what that means. With our current governance that means that they can buy laws that make them richer and then on top of
that, they are irresponsible with that wealth, they do everything that they scorn us for. They borrow and lend and trade with and against money that
they do not have and when it started to collapse they stole clients money, oh they always put it back up until recently because there is nothing else
left for them to take from to put it back with. So they asked for bailouts and got them and continued to pay their top executives million dollar
bonuses, with our tax dollars. And we're the ones with entitlement issues?
We have corporations that have US profits in the multi-billions receiving multi-million dollar tax rebates and then they still complain that taxes are
too high and thatthe cost of doing business in the US is too high. That is a blatant excuse to "give" those jobs to people they can exploit by
avoiding fair pay and safe work environments, and you bet your ass that I lived in a 3rd world country and was offered 2 dollars a day I would take it
over complete starvation (how kind of them to feed the poor). They save millions if not billions. They blame regulations make it too hard yet most
regulations work in their favor and not ours.
A nation has been built under our noses in which we cannot work outside of the system and now that system in which we can't work outside of is
collapsing, no it hasn't affected EVERYONE and won't probably for some time to come, but it will happen. So, yes...give me a bigger slice of the
pie, the pie that allows me to find a decent job and not be a slave to debt and poverty.