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Originally posted by auraelium
This has been called the Graph that silenced a billion pro-warming alarmists.Its taken from Vostok ice core data,It has been peer reviewed many times and its accurecy has never been disputed, which is why pro warming alarmists have chosen to completly Ignore it.It shows how earths temperature has fluctuated over the last 11,000 years ive also included a 450,000 years Vostok temperature graph which clearly shows the warming alarmists dirty little secret... that warming causes Co2 levels to rise and not vice versa.
Notice how the Roman optimum temperatures were 2-3 degress hotter than today.
The warming of our earth is a natural occurrence and is linked to fluctations in the suns frequency.edit on 5-10-2011 by auraelium because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Droolmouth
reply to post by Atzil321
The climate has been changing for billions of years. There were Ice Ages, and there were times of global tropical climate. Wouldn't it make sense not to worry unless some sort of record is made, and the current climate has no where near broke any records.edit on 6-10-2011 by Droolmouth because: (no reason given)
I already posted this earlier in the thread, here it is again. 10,257 Earth scientists took part in this survey, 97% of them emphatically agreed that current global warming is a direct result of manmade C02. tigger.uic.edu... The argument that scientists are not in agreement or do not understand why global warming is happening is bogus.
And yet... scientists (actual scientists, not groups with an agenda), do NOT know what is causing the changes. They don't know.. but you bunch of conspiracy board posters do know?
Originally posted by Atzil321
reply to post by dillweed
Yes the best place to go for the facts of climate change is a hack fiction writer, not highly educated scientists working in the field. Maybe we should consult Steven king on a cure for cancer? or J.K rowling on her knowledge of quantum mechanics? Give me a break.
Crichton graduated from Harvard, obtaining an M.D. in 1969, At Harvard he developed the belief that all diseases, including heart attacks, are direct effects of a patient's state of mind. He later wrote: "We cause our diseases. We are directly responsible for any illness that happens to us." Eventually he came to believe in auras, astral projection, and clairvoyance. Does that sound like a credible source to get your information from?
edit on 5-10-2011 by Atzil321 because: (no reason given)
I like keeping my hard earned money also, and think the green taxes are nothing more than a scam perpetrated by politicians and local councils to drum up more revenue. Scientists present evidence, they don't make tax laws. Surely you can see the difference?
I dunno about you, but I like it when my money stays with me.
Originally posted by Atzil321
How Climate Denial Works, in One Handy Chart
If you know much about climate change, then you know that there are plenty of people who would rather never address the fact that it exists.
How Climate Denial Works
Originally posted by navy_vet_stg3
So, you're saying there were factories and cars 15 million years ago, right? If it was "natural" then, it certainly can't be "natural" now, right?
Originally posted by fleabit
While opinions are fine, I find it highly amusing so many of you are CERTAIN of the cause of climate change. You KNOW it's now humans. And yet... scientists (actual scientists, not groups with an agenda), do NOT know what is causing the changes. They don't know.. but you bunch of conspiracy board posters do know?
Originally posted by Section31
If you look at the history behind extinction events, you will find many of them were caused by climate change. Humanity was not around 305 million years ago.
Originally posted by Essan
Wrong
You really think that if A causes B then C can't possibly cause B as well?
Not so much a straw man as an appeal to ignorance.
Originally posted by navy_vet_stg3
Originally posted by Essan
Wrong
You really think that if A causes B then C can't possibly cause B as well?
Not so much a straw man as an appeal to ignorance.
I'm just saying that to assume that a bunch of hairless monkeys can have a larger effect on the environment than the Sun has, is arrogant. It's cyclic, and it will be cyclic, and no matter how we try and spin the numbers and blame mankind for this "warming", it doesn't account for all the climate change that has occurred naturally over the course of this planet's history.
Originally posted by pikestaff
I read climate depot every day, as its emailed to my inbox, lots of articles to do with 'the weather' and the personnel connected to 'the weather' makes interesting reading..
Again, can anyone tell me how CO2, at less than one percent of the total atmosphere, can do so much damage? its actually 0.393% of the atmosphere. There is more Methane, and that is 20 times worse than CO2,
Originally posted by felonius
Originally posted by pikestaff
I read climate depot every day, as its emailed to my inbox, lots of articles to do with 'the weather' and the personnel connected to 'the weather' makes interesting reading..
Again, can anyone tell me how CO2, at less than one percent of the total atmosphere, can do so much damage? its actually 0.393% of the atmosphere. There is more Methane, and that is 20 times worse than CO2,
You know as well as I,
Its all about money.
The CO2 angle?
Well, if something puts out CO2, that would give them reason to regulate/control it wouldnt it?