Greece Shutdown by Nationwide Strike (Oct 5)

Why do you support those lazy bastards is beyond me. A few fun facts about Greece:

- Greece joined the EU after forging their economic statistics in order to meet the required standards
- most of their state enterprises are detrimental (i.e. the national railroads earn only 100 million while spending 700)
- their educational system is one of the worst the Europe while they have 4x more teachers per student then Finland (the best educational system in Europe)
- the medical staff in Greece are all thieves not ashamed to steal even toilet paper
- tax evasion is national pride in Greece (and it does not apply only to citizens - in some cases in order to win elections, some political parties do not any taxes at all)

Basically Greece is equal to socialist USSR of XXI century. And you are cheering for the bastards who are willing to f*up the whole EU economy in order to keep living like pigs? As long as the people are fighting, right? Doesn't matter that the reasons are false.

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Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Required01

 

It says the hospitals are working with "reduced staff."

And yes, I do want to see chaos, but I hope nobody gets hurt. I'm mostly confused because the police are facing the same cuts as everyone else, yet they choose to fire tear gas? Maybe a reduced police presence is necessary, and maybe some of them are just following their perceived duty and have the best of intentions, but is there really a need for tear gas?

Be careful how you perceive this Greek action, because it is coming to the US. Nobody knows when, but our financial situation is just as dire as theirs. We will be facing strikes and riots here as well. Maybe this month, maybe next year, but they are inevitable. We are way beyond the threshold for recovery now. We must crash before we can recover. Look to Greece to see what we should or shouldn't be doing.

Because they do not want to be fired from the only job there is GRA...

While it may sound odd they will do what they are told so their family can eat..
Now is it such a great idea, I do not really know but I think that is why they are following orders..

Originally posted by Pumper
Why do you support those lazy bastards is beyond me. A few fun facts about Greece:

- Greece joined the EU after forging their economic statistics in order to meet the required standards
- most of their state enterprises are detrimental (i.e. the national railroads earn only 100 million while spending 700)
- their educational system is one of the worst the Europe while they have 4x more teachers per student then Finland (the best educational system in Europe)
- the medical staff in Greece are all thieves not ashamed to steal even toilet paper
- tax evasion is national pride in Greece (and it does not apply only to citizens - in some cases in order to win elections, some political parties do not any taxes at all)

Basically Greece is equal to socialist USSR of XXI century. And you are cheering for the bastards who are willing to f*up the whole EU economy in order to keep living like pigs? As long as the people are fighting, right? Doesn't matter that the reasons are false.

but according to the eu bureau of statistics the average greek person works over 2000 hours a year the most in the world behind australia 1600 hours., so lazy they are not.

The simple fact is greece will never conform to the bull# ways of the western world. they will do what they like whenever they want. If you dont like it jump on a spaceship and go to mars.

Greece has been here from the start of time , the founder of the world and will be here until the end of the time .

they are simple facts.!!!

We are with you great warriors or lore

reply to post by getreadyalready


This is what happenes when everyone refuses to work... it brings down the whole system and there's not much anyone can do about it... Governments cant enforce everyone work... Police are outnumbered... People have a choice... if they have enough cash to live for a while without needing to work then they can have their say this way.... the Governments will have to listen eventually or they wil no longer be here either....

In fact the people wont even need cash if there's no shops open.... back to farming and hunting!!

reply to post by gate13


One question: if they do not want to live like every other western country, when why the F did they join EU?

On the working hours. That's probably because they count 3 hours of siesta into the total.

reply to post by ColCurious


Your full of it mate..!!!

The EMERGENCY SERVICES, swear an oath to SERVE AND PROTECT..!!

IF all hell breaks loose and there's no firefighters, no police, no paramedics. Who will be blamed for the deaths and destruction in the aftermath..?

The very people I just mentioned "not the ones who took advantage of the situation and did it".

Who mostly gets hurt in massive riots?

Small business owners and regular citizens, who's shops, homes and property is looted and burned.

Police and other emergency services need to stay so that these people are protected from themselves..

Your full of crap saying that if we work for the police or any other special service, and we choose to stay and keep some sort of order happening, that we're traitors. Fact is, they would be traitors if they didn't stay back..!!

STFU..!!!

If it wasn't for the police, the big organized thieves would be long ago behind bars.

reply to post by Ironclad

I'm sorry, you misunderstood me.
For one thing, I would never call any member of the emergency services traitors, and for another thing I didnt mention firefighters or paramedics at all.
I didnt say they should abandon their post either, nor that the Police should allow looting or destruction of property to happen.

What I'm saying is that the greece Police swore an oath to protect the rights and liberties of the Greek PEOPLE and to serve THEIR general interest.
The greece Government is acting AGAINST those general interests without any legitimization.

The Greeks in the streets are not just some rioting anarchists or communists anymore.
Those protesters call themselves "Direct Democracy Now" and they are in fact the ordinary citizens across all political orientations and professions.

I want the Police to act according to their oath.
If they did, they would arrest the Greek Government and their accomplices for fraud instead of fighting the legitimate protest.

I didn't see anything wrong with how the Greek police were acting.The numerous videos from New York of OWS police brutality made me want to puke.

Originally posted by Convicted
The Greek Union people crack me up.

Their country is going down the tubes, so they decide to take a day off and throw a tantrum instead of buckling down and trying to show the rest of the world they are worthy to loan money too.

You can always count on unions taking a bad situation and making things worse, even for themselves. Nice job, folks.

My understanding is that the Unions of Greece are "taking a day off" to protest against and show their disgust at a Government who have begun to implement "austerity measures" which is basically government speak for giving a good financial shafting to it's people for the benefit of the banks, yet they have put absolutely no realistic plans forward to get the country out of the mess save for borrowing even more money from those same banks. Can you see who are the winners in this situation? Which incidentally is also coming soon to a place near YOU.

You can point the finger at Greece, its people and its Trade Unions all you like and no doubt you will be patted on the head for it by your controllers, but remember it was the likes of Freddy, Fannie, AIG, Goldman Sachs & Moodys who got the whole World into this mess in the first place. if you cannot see or understand that then you have not been paying much attention these past few years and you will never see the big picture before it unfolds before your tear stained eyes.

I am in the last decade of my working life and I find your response naive and ill informed, typical of a modern day, mind conditioned, History channel & Hollywood educated, twenty something serf. Come on now tell me, have you ever been in a Trade Union? If it wasn't for T.U's, 10 year old boys would still be leading pit ponies by the bridle in the candle lit coal mines.

PEACE,
RK

Originally posted by Rigel Kent
My understanding is that the Unions of Greece are "taking a day off" to protest against and show their disgust at a Government who have implemented "austerity measures" which basically is government speak for giving a good financial shafting for the people to benefit the banks, yet they have put absolutely no plans forward to get the country out of the mess save for borrowing even more money from those same banks. Can you see who are the winners in this situation?

You need to educate yourself on the situation. Study the austerity measures and see what it is they seek to do. In the short term, they are to get them back into the black. In the long term, they are to teach them financial responsibility.

Each and every measure they are required to follow requires tightening the purse strings, somthing Greeks seem loathe to do. The measures require smaller government, less handouts to those who do not require them. They demand people actually get jobs and stop milking social assistance. They require the government to sell off utilities and government owned businesses that are deeply in the red. All of these things make sense, and taken together can fix their economy. As a previous poster mentioned, their national railway, which is government owned, looses 7 dollars for each dollar they make. Why hasnt this been fixed or sold already is beyond me.

Originally posted by Rigel Kent
You can point the finger at Greece, its people and its unions all you like and no doubt you will be patted on the head for it by your controllers, but remember it was the likes of Freddy, Fannie, AIG & Goldman Sachs & Moodys who got the whole world into this mess in the first place, if you cannot see that then you have not been paying much attention these past few years and you will never see the big picture.

Are we going to be blaming them for each and every failure in the world for years to come? Yes, these companies did mess things up badly, but they are not the only crooks in the world. Do you not think it possible for the Greek government to have badly mismanaged things? Do you really think that is so hard to believe?

Originally posted by Rigel Kent
I am in the last decade of my working life and I find your response naive and ill informed, typical of a modern day, well conditioned, History channel & Hollywood educated, twenty something serf. Come on now tell me, have you ever been in a Trade Union? If it wasn't for T.U's, 10 year old boys would still be leading pit ponies by the bridle in the candle lit coal mines.

I agree. But there also needs to be balance. Too much union power = socialism/communism. Too much government power = totalitarianism/slave work force. Either way you go, its equally as bad.

Realy is amazing how poeple think doing something this radical will change the world.This could become the next great war.

Here is more clashes between protestors and the Greek Police. The dog is in this one also!

reply to post by AnonymousFem


Sad how police, who make a very modest wage for putting their lives in danger day after day must put up with masked, rock throwing protesters who if they got their way would destroy their own lives.

I feel for these poor men who are desperately trying to salvage somthing from their once great country. Someone asked why police, who are recieving cut rate wages under austerity are still out there policing and not protesting. I submit they are doing the responsible thing. As thinking family members, they realize that the only path to recovery is through tough austerity measures.

If anyone else has a solution of how they can fix their woes, please do tell.

reply to post by nightbringr


And who got them into this mess in the first place?

It was not the people. It was the Government, and those Criminals in the EU, and the bankers.

Put the blame where it lies.

They really should pull out off the Euro, and recapitalise their own currency. This is going to worse as it continues.

Anyone who deserves an Award is that Dog.

reply to post by AnonymousFem


I agree. It was the Greek government solely. Not the EU or bankers.

Please explain to me the mechanism the banks use to MAKE a country take a loan when it is not first asked for?

The simple fact is, if a government runs a deficit budget, they must borrow money. Look at a history of Greek expenditures and budgets now they have been released in full and the fraud the Greek government pulled off to join the EU has been exposed. They have been spending well beyond their means for so long, it is now coming back to bite them in the asses. I wonder if the Greek government has an independent auditor who looks at their books yearly? Sounds like it would be in order. If i was a Greek citizen i would lobby for that if it has not been put in place.

And yes, i do feel bad for the ordinary Greek citizen. But if i was one of them, i would realize that austerity is the only way out currently. If you have any other ideas of how they could fix it, please tell me. Because no one has that answer. What would YOU do?

Ps. I see you have editted your post with: pull out of the euro and make their own money again. I ask you this then, how do they pay for their government employees, pensions and more that they desperately need emergency bailouts for? You realize simply printing money to pay for everything doesnt work, right?

reply to post by AnonymousFem


Not sure he/she is aware of the financial situation, but that dog sure seems to love the excitement. I've got two Australian shepherds, they'd love it too, but would probably try to herd the police and would probably get shot by the cops here in the U.S.A.