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Originally posted by thoughtsfull
I would vote "no" to the Union, nor do I feel we should be tied at the hip to other nations like the US.
The EU is going to try to be a global power and will in time be vying for the position of top dog.. We (Britain that is) have been caught up in those game since the time of Constantine the Great and to be honest it's about time we really made an effort to keep out of those games and sort ourselves out.
I have a hope there is still time/space to carry on the task of building the Commonwealth into something special and since it is made up of the worlds poorest nations I think it about time we use our skills and capabilities to lift those nations out of the poverty trap they are in.
Given that we would get valuable industry and skills in return as well as decent trading partners I honestly do not see the need to continue to rape them of there resources.. lets be an ethical nation for a change.
I think this would certainly be a task that would not only keep the nation busy, but also a task we could be really proud of.. which is something I see lacking in todays society.edit on 5/10/11 by thoughtsfull because: (no reason given)
It's no longer the days of empire where romantic notions of cavalry charges, true British spirit and courage and honourable battles for king/queen and country particularly apply any more
I feel no dislike for continental Europeans, well....there is always an exception - can't just forget and ignore a thousand years of Anglo - French enmity overnight....but neither do I feel any particular fondness for them.
Originally posted by spikey
what about if you want to build an extension on your gaff, you can go right ahead and build it can you mate?
No, you gotta go an ask some arsewipe in the council for his holier than thou permission.
Want to protest, or march on an issue you feel strongly about...go right ahead eh?
Wait a minute...nope, gotta ask permission from the British government for that, via the police...get yourself a permit, then they'll tell you when where and how many can march.
It's the same thing here as it is there...too many arsewipes trying to make life more difficult than it need be. Pencil necks are bastards whther they come from Britain or any continental European country.
but just one using patriotism to hide precisely what a no no neck snivelling git he or she really is!
There is a bigger picture.
One of unity. Not just puking, corrupt EU unity, but species wide unity..and sometimes we step in crap, to get to where we want to go. The EU might be that pile of crap, but is part of the journey.
reply to post by spikey
Wouldn't you want Great Britain to be respected n such a venture? To be the innovator, the standard bearer? The one to imitate? Or shall we become the pariah...the derided nation, left by the sidelines, acknowledged politely, but laughed at behind our backs instead? I think i would prefer our country to set the standard, to be a respected voice that doesn't have to shout from the sidelines to be heard or taken seriously, instead of the alternative