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Originally posted by Dav1d
Arachne believes baby Lisa is alive and was taken by someone not connected to the family, but has been inside the home.
And yet still another voice, another opinion on the Kanas City Police....
LISA IRWIN: Police Not Phased by $100,000 Reward in Lisa Irwin Disappearance Case - WDAF
KANSAS CITY, Mo.—
Authorities say that in high-profile cases like the disappearance of Lisa Irwin, there can be pros and cons to offering a big reward like the one now being offered by Irwin's family for information leading to her return, or a conviction in her alleged kidnapping.
The big reward dwafs the $1,000 offered by the TIPS Hotline for information leading to an arrest. But police say that money doesn't have anything to do with the TIPS Hotline.
"We weren't consulted..." said Det. Kevin Boehm of the Kansas City Missouri Police Department and the TIPS Hotline.
"The family and Mr. Stanton that's involved have the right to do whatever feel is important to bringing Lisa back."
Originally posted by silo13
reply to post by Michelle129th
The reality is....mom didn't report the drinking information to the MEDIA until a week later....that does not mean she didn't report it to the police from day one.
So you're thinking she told the police she was drinking - but for some reason the police didn't tell the media? Or she didn't tell the media? We can only hope so. I seriously doubt it. But, if you think so? Prove it. Pretty simple that.
Again, I don't hear/see Deborah saying she put baby to bed at 10:30, but rather that she herself went to bed at that time
I've linked to this repeatedly. She gave three separate stories of when she put the baby to bed - wait - 4 now.
edit on 30-10-2011 by silo13 because: (no reason given)
In the first cell phone post on this thread (page 57) there is absolutely no police confirmation of the phone call or megan wright that I can see in either text or video. From some searching there is also no actual police confirmation. Even the media is not stating "police have confirmed", so it's all this woman's word and nothing else
So what's your point? There's no link or no confirmation? You pick these things apart - but offer no proof of your own. For you just because you 'can't find it' - it isn't there. You REALLY THINK this woman is going to step out and tell national media thus and so if it's a total fabrication? Fine, that's your opinion. peace
You say I'm claiming things aren't true because I can't find them, but the same goes for you in that you can't just post a link and say it's FACT and confirmation just because you say so. It's silly to get into semantics at this point. We have been having a good debate with several people on both sides of the fence offering opinions and scenarios. Why do we have to keep coming back to the snarky "prove its"? None of us can prove a damn thing because we are not the police or the parents or the baby so get off it.
Originally posted by silo13
Oh I heard it - I just find it terribly difficult to believe the police would allow the story to continue if there was nothing to it or if it were an out and out lie.
Speaking of convolutions there's another report that said Megan called 911 to report the call. And yet another reporting the media knew this information from police reports and 'ambushed' Megan to get her story (based on those reports).
Originally posted by silo13
A call was received Friday by a woman who wishes to remain anonymous. She asked that these questions be posed:
“Did the interviews for the boys, that police say could lead to answers in their missing sister’s case, get canceled Friday because their attorney, Joe Tacopina, is still in Rome negotiating his soccer deal with As Roma?” The caller then said, “I want to ask, is Tacopina’s involvement in this case more about Tacopina than Baby Lisa? Is he exploiting these parents? Is he taking away from finding the baby for his own egotistical reasons? Is he a media hound?
It is reported he was (still is?) in Rome. I’m still looking on this end in the Italian news to see if I can find something to collaborate the story.
Originally posted by gabby2011
reply to post by Dav1d
I think you you have made some very interesting points...and it makes sense if someone with a lot of money..and connections was involved with the disappearance of Lisa...and wanted to cover their tracks completely.
I quoted you only Gabby, but this is also for David. What I have to wonder is WHY on earth someone with money would have this go down this way? The $100,000 alone put up for reward could very very easily have "bought" a baby on the black market....or at the very least paid for an adoption. People keep stating how odd it would be to abduct a 10 month old and then try to pass it off as their own and I have to agree....I'd think someone would rather take a newborn that you could easily pretend was yours.
Originally posted by Dav1d
A tale of two girls....
A tale of two cities....
A tale of two police departments...
first a little background on Elizabeth Smart:
The kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart occurred on June 5, 2002, when 14-year-old Elizabeth Smart was abducted from her Salt Lake City, Utah, bedroom that she shared with her sister, Mary Katherine. Smart was found alive nine months later on March 12, 2003, in Sandy, Utah, about 18 miles from her home. Although police had an eyewitness, Mary Katherine's report was not very helpful to investigators. Furthermore, there was almost no significant forensic evidence such as clear fingerprints or DNA samples to help identify the abductor, hindering the investigation.
Mary Katherine suddenly remembered where she had heard Mitchell's voice, telling her parents "I think I know who it is..." Mary Katherine now identified "Emmanuel"/Mitchell as the man who had abducted her sister. When this was reported to the police, they had doubts as to its reliability. the police did not consider it a worthy lead.
Salt Lake City. Kansas City
Reward by city. $25,000. $1000
Total reward. Almost $300,000. $101,000
Searchers. 2000. 50
On day one the KCPD and FBI search a 20 to 30 acre landfill spending about 2 hours doing it...
Contrasts this to the search for Elizabeth
2000 Volunteers combed the hills near her family's home and extended the search using search dogs and aircraft.
Salt Lake City Police didn't have an issue with convicting Elizabeth's kidnappers, even after using 2000 community volunteers. Salt Lake City Police Department wasn't to proud to ask for help from the community. Salt Lake City Police focused on finding Elizabeth, and ultimately did!
Kansas City Police on the other hand refused the help of the community in searching for little Lisa.
Kansas City Police focused on day on searching for a crime scene, and a body! Are we really to believe that they were expecting to find a live Lisa in a landfill, a sewer, a cistern?
Salt Lake City Police welcomed additional reward money for the safe return of Elizabeth....
Perhaps Deborah and Jeremy are guilty?
Guilty of choosing to live in the wrong city!
Cyndy Short: I will continue to search for Baby Lisa
The local attorney, who is no longer counsel for the parents of missing Baby Lisa says in a statement released today (Sunday) that she will continue to search for the child as a concerned citizen. Cyndy Short announced Friday she was no longer the family's local attorney after reports surfaced that Short and lead attorney Joe Tacopina were butting heads after Tacopina tried to fire her. Short is holding a news conference about the search for Baby Lisa tomorrow morning. Bay Lisa has been missing nearly four weeks.
Kansas City defense attorney Pat Peters doesn't like the way the entire Lisa Irwin case has been handled.
"Someone needs to get a grip on this case and bring it back to normalcy so it becomes what it is, a missing baby case," Peters says.
He is disgusted that the investigation has focused on everything but Lisa Irwin...
Prove it? Well, on that logic why shouldn't you have to prove it isn't the way it went?
...we don't know she actually did lie about it.