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It gets me fired up too.Do you think Deborah thought they were sent by the police maybe that's why they weren't receptive to their advice?From my viewpoint it's just another thing to be suspicious of.Do you know if they hired a private investigator?
Originally posted by silo13
Colorado Man Reaches Out to Family of Lisa Irwin
KANSAS CITY, Mo.—
A Colorado man has a similar story to the one of Lisa Irwin's family. Gil Abeyta and his wife woke up on July 15, 1986 and their son Christopher was gone. He's still missing 25 years later.
Abeyta is reaching out to Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin.
"I met with them briefly," Abeyta said. "I could tell they don't trust anyone, not even me."
He says he expected that response. He's been following the story from the beginning. He feels like the baby's parents got some bad advice as well as being overwhelmed and they simply withdrew. Abyeta says talking with them wasn't easy.
"It didn't go as well as I wanted it to, but then again, I was telling them to do this do that," he said. "Talk to police, they didn't like it, you think they like someone coming in and telling them that?"
It's easy to see that Abyeta has a passion for helping families find their missing children. The Lisa Irwin case gets him really fired up.
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by gabby2011
So what is it a symbol of?
It's a symbol of the elements: Spirit, Earth, Water, Fire, Air. It is used in some neo-pagan Wiccan rituals to ask assistance from the Elementals in achieving a goal, and the very first RULE of those who follow that spirituality is
"If it harm none, do as you will."
And what's more, the people who use that symbol, oriented with the point UP, don't even believe in "Satan."
Look it up, gabby.en.wikipedia.org...
It's an ANCIENT spiritual symbol, has been used by numerous traditions all over the globe.
The Satanic perversion is just that -- a perversion, with the point aiming downward rather than up (among other things). And yes, Wicca is a pretty common practice here. If it was applied by a Wiccan, it would have been during a ceremony for HELPING someone.
Do you always want things both ways?!?
Oh, and btw, that "pentagram" tagged in the storm drain is NOT a "symbol of satanic worship" or whatever bollocks that idiot reporter said. Gimme a break, media!! Talk about ignorance and spreading disinfo!
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by schmae
I read in the news somewhere this morning that a local station has indeed contacted Jeremy's son's mother. And yes, it indicated she has a lawyer, too . I'll see if I can tab back to where I saw it...
Meantime, I can fully understand the other bio-parents feeling uneasy with their boys living with D and J. If it were either of my kids, I would NEVER let them stay with D again. And I would be fighting for custody, too...although what we learned of Ms Raim from casenet is that she lost custody before, and was apparently in arears in Child Support...so not sure if she's a better choice for her son or not...
Here is a link referencing her. The lawyer mentioned is the same one that represented her in the custody case, as listed on casenet.
www.nbcactionnews.com...edit on 27-10-2011 by wildtimes because: (no reason given)