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Lisa Irwin - Missing - One Year Later

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posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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I haven't posted much but I've been reading everyday. The following link was given in a thread about Sandusky. I haven't watched the entire thing but enough to see that the documentary was based on a child abuse ring in NEBRASKA. Not that far from Little Lisa.

www.youtube.com...

Hope that link works.




posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 03:31 PM
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If these 2 missouri missing babies have ONE iota of anything connecting them , obviously Deb and all her people are off the hook AND I'd say international child ring goes to the top of the list of suspects.



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 03:33 PM
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I think I would add the anxiety meds, ( not to villify deb) but because someone on anxiety meds is already fragile, so to speak and with the meds in them , further altering them, then you might just get an incident like what happened on that monday night.
It'll be interesting to see how the new missing baby's family comes into focus and if there are any similariites. I IMMEDIATELY thought this cannot be a coincidence. Babies do not come missing out of their beds THAT often. Yes , more often than 20 years ago, but still very very rare !



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by TXTriker
I haven't posted much but I've been reading everyday. The following link was given in a thread about Sandusky. I haven't watched the entire thing but enough to see that the documentary was based on a child abuse ring in NEBRASKA. Not that far from Little Lisa.

www.youtube.com...

Hope that link works.


Thank you,
This is worth making a little easier to access.



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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Not to mention, then when the investigation begins you've got a mom / dad already appearing compromised because they may or may not have a mental disorder . The general public has a big misconception on mental disorders. A lot of folks think ANYONE on psych meds must be almost crazy. They don't realize that there are lots of lots of functioning folks they meet and work with every day who are on anti depressants or anti anxiety meds and that doesnt' make them 'straight jacket' material. But something like this comes up, a missing baby, and then they look at that person in a different light... like a charlie manson sort of light.. certifiable. So that's why i think someone on meds might be a perfect candidate IF you were looking for potential victims.



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by TXTriker
I haven't posted much but I've been reading everyday. The following link was given in a thread about Sandusky. I haven't watched the entire thing but enough to see that the documentary was based on a child abuse ring in NEBRASKA. Not that far from Little Lisa.

www.youtube.com...

Hope that link works.


Thank you for forwarding it to this thread.. I have not seen this yet..though I have read about the documentary being pulled from air. Happy to be able to see some of the highlights of it here..
..I have wondered about that docu.
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posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 03:48 PM
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OH god...he's been found dead in the woods
1/2 mile from home. Poor poor little man and his family



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by schmae
If these 2 missouri missing babies have ONE iota of anything connecting them , obviously Deb and all her people are off the hook AND I'd say international child ring goes to the top of the list of suspects.



(Affton, MO) -- Police have declared a SAARA Alert in the search for a missing Affton baby.

The mother of 18-month-old Tyler Dasher says she put her son to bed last night, awakening late this morning to find the child missing.

Dasher is described as a blond-haired, blue-eyed boy with a red birthmark on his left shoulder. He was wearing pajamas with trucks on him, and had a blue blanket in his crib.
   
Witnesses apparently told police they saw a man in the area earlier today, carrying a child wrapped in a similar blanket.

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That would appear to be a connection..
   
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posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 03:51 PM
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no.......... WHY! Please GOD let the St Louis PD be UNLIKE the kc pd and find this baby's killer NOW ! I'
m so tired of people disregarding children like trash...........



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 04:00 PM
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(KMOV) – Officials with St. Louis County police confirmed on Tuesday around 3:30 p.m. that the dead body of a missing toddler boy been found. A few minutes prior to the discovery, officials had just shut down Gravois Road at the River Des Peres in an effort to narrow down the search for a missing 1-year-old boy that has turned up missing from a home in Affton, Missouri, just south of St. Louis city. Authorities issued a SARAA Alert in order to spread the word on the little boy. The child's name is Tyler Daniel Dasher, born in September of 2010. Police have not confirmed that the child found at the scene is Dasher. Authorities say the boy’s mother put the boy to bed last evening about 10:30 p.m. in the 7700 block of Clevedon on Monday. When the mother woke up at 11 a.m. Tuesday, she said the child was gone.
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There is a video on the above source, listen to the description of the nan on it...


(AP) -- Update: 3:45 p.m. Nov. 15:

Police in St. Louis are reporting they found a dead baby near the River Des Peres Tuesday afternoon. KMOV is reporting police confirmation that the body was the missing toddler, Tyler Dasher. KMOV is also reporting one person is in handcuffs at the scene.



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posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 04:10 PM
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Thank you for putting it in. I haven't learned to do that yet.

@Gabby, I thought it might be pertinent considering some of the theories presented in thread so far. It at least shows that these things do exist. When I have time I'm going to watch the whole thing.



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 04:11 PM
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I hope someone at KCPD or St Louis has sense enough to investigate the possibility of a connection. Perhaps the "walker" was real after all.



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by schmae
If these 2 missouri missing babies have ONE iota of anything connecting them , obviously Deb and all her people are off the hook AND I'd say international child ring goes to the top of the list of suspects.


yes..it could be an international ring..or some disturbed man who thinks that killing /sacrificing babies will give him some kind of "special" powers.

What did you mean by deb and all her "people".. ? Like her kids and jeremy, and the neighbor?

I still think there is a possibility that this Dane character could have something to do with this ?



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 04:15 PM
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Witnesses have told the police they saw a man walking along a nearby street with a child wrapped in a blue blanket, matching the one that is in Tyler's crib.  Tyler's blanket is missing. 

Affton is about 250 miles or four hours away from Kansas City, Missouri where baby Lisa Irwin's home is.

The man is described as as a white male,  30's wearing a dark-colored hoodie and dark sweat pants. 

Tyler is described as blond, blue-eyed. The police said that the family did not have any recent photos of Tyler.

Tyler is on Twitter as #missingafftonbaby



Continue reading on Examiner.com Tyler Dasher: Witnesses say they saw baby carried away in blue blanket - National missing persons | Examiner.com www.examiner.com...


Well we can hope that Lisa is still alive.
I've yet to find anything else about the person arrested.


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posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by gabby2011

Originally posted by TXTriker
I haven't posted much but I've been reading everyday. The following link was given in a thread about Sandusky. I haven't watched the entire thing but enough to see that the documentary was based on a child abuse ring in NEBRASKA. Not that far from Little Lisa.

www.youtube.com...

Hope that link works.


Thank you for forwarding it to this thread.. I have not seen this yet..though I have read about the documentary being pulled from air. Happy to be able to see some of the highlights of it here..
..I have wondered about that docu.
edit on 15-11-2011 by gabby2011 because: (no reason given)



What does this dead baby boy have to do with a pedophile ring? Maybe, and a BIG maybe Lisa has something to do with this very real alternative life-style that sicko lead but, kidnapping a child, especially a boy (where you can't 'rape' him) and finding him dead the next day, to me shows someone who did not care for this child or had revenge for a family member.



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 04:27 PM
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What does this dead baby boy have to do with a pedophile ring? Maybe, and a BIG maybe Lisa has something to do with this very real alternative life-style that sicko lead but, kidnapping a child, especially a boy (where you can't 'rape' him) and finding him dead the next day, to me shows someone who did not care for this child or had revenge for a family member.



yes..I see your point.. it doesn't seem to be linked to the type of pedophile abduction that uses its children for rape. But we don't know that this child wasn't filmed while being raped, and even filmed being killed for the purposes of the deeper levels of child porn. Torture and snuff films are also popular with some of these siccos.

Not saying that's what happened, but it makes sense that there would be some initiation type stuff that may occur for anyone wanting to join these gangs or groups that run and sell child porn.

It could be linked with a few possibilities.. and those possibilities may very well be linked to other connections of porn rings.



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 04:36 PM
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An interesting fact...take it for what you will

Here they have a body of a male baby...same age found deceased in the woods. No other children in the area reported missing (so chances are pretty good it's Tyler). The SARAA alert has not/will not be cancelled until they identified the body. Lisa's was cancelled very quickly without a body or leads

Also, the reporter said when LE got there they knew right away something crimina/abduction (i think thats the word he used) had gone on so the issued the SARAA alert and called in FBI. Is this the same procedure that happened in Lisa's case? And if they cancelled the amber alert would that be because they found evidence to suggest it wasn't something criminal/abduction.

Michelle



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by Michelle129th
An interesting fact...take it for what you will

Here they have a body of a male baby...same age found deceased in the woods. No other children in the area reported missing (so chances are pretty good it's Tyler). The SARAA alert has not/will not be cancelled until they identified the body. Lisa's was cancelled very quickly without a body or leads

Also, the reporter said when LE got there they knew right away something crimina/abduction (i think thats the word he used) had gone on so the issued the SARAA alert and called in FBI. Is this the same procedure that happened in Lisa's case? And if they cancelled the amber alert would that be because they found evidence to suggest it wasn't something criminal/abduction.

Michelle


Did you watch the video I linked to.
The first reports about this child are very different, the police spokesperson seem surprised when question if the FBI where involved? He did list who was involved this afternoon and the FBI was NOT on that list. Contrast that to Lisa where the FBI was there waking people up. The complete tone of the officer was very different than the tone with Lisa. Here there are no signs of a break in. And the police seem to see sigificantness in a report of a man seen with a baby.



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 04:51 PM
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Yes I watched that video earlier...I was quoting the live feed. Definitely heard no FBI on the old video but they were saying on live feed that when LE was at the home they found or knew something was criminal so called in FBI. I dont' know at what point that was, but obviously after that first video

So if the whole scenario was different that could be because there was a different scenario or setting or evidence found that we have no knowledge of?

Michelle



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 05:14 PM
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I meant Deb and any of the people previously suspected or connected to her, family , friends, neighbors etc.
And yea i was thinkign would we all just S### if it was Dane arrested for the other baby ? HOLY COW!



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