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Originally posted by schmae
reply to post by gabby2011
I hope so and agree she probably has. That may be why this guy Dane has hit the road for parts unknown. I got a question maybe someone can answer . Do the cops tell the lawyers anything l ike... test results? Would they say to lawyers, do your clients want to speak cuz we got this forensic test back and their prints, dna etc are on it, do they want to explain this? Or at this point are cops legally free to withhold that info until trial?
Originally posted by schmae
reply to post by Dav1d
Ok David '''Actually it would appear that your intention is to suggest that her history, has wounded her enough, to see turning an accident into a crime!! Or am I hearing you suggest that "NORMAL" mothers, find it "REASONABLE" to dispose of their child, and call attention to that missing child?'''' You are totally 100% putting words into my mouth.
Originally posted by schmae
reply to post by gabby2011
I thought that too Gabby, 20 or 70 pages ago that maybe Deb was covering something else like an affair, possibly even an affair of the neighbor and someone , not even herself. But if she were covering for an affair , let's say, or a drug deal, let's say , and at this point realizing the cops are looking at her for this crime big time, would she continue to lie about a drug deal? Maybe if the drug dealer threatened her life.
Something does not make sense about the stories and events of that night. Does everyone agree? There is something amiss about Deb's story ? If it is a drug deal or an affair or something of that nature, for GOSH SAKES Deborah come clean and save your BUTT !edit on 14-11-2011 by schmae because: (no reason given)
What a poor idea. At this point Deborah is committed. Acknowledging that she was in a drug deal, that night isn't going to make the police look any harder, for little Lisa. Nor will it help the police for Deborah to acknowledge she was having an affair. The only possible help Deborah could give at this point, would be if she actuallys knows where or who has Lisa. Nothing that Deborah can add other than the above, will make Deborah look any less guilty. Until they find little Lisa if you've made it on their suspect list, you'll remain there. Until they know what, who, when, and how, the job is not on removing people but rather finding them...
Originally posted by schmae
reply to post by Dav1d
Im not uninterested in clarifying my point. It's pretty well documented that a lot of murders/ serial killers and child molesters have highly abusive upbringings. That's just fact.
As for this ''Or am I hearing you suggest that "NORMAL" mothers, find it "REASONABLE" to dispose of their child, and call attention to that missing child?''
I did nowhere object to Gabby's saying those folks are severe psychos,, murderers, etc.
I agree Debbie has had a very tough life... but I don't see that as a valid reason to say she has severe psychopathic tendencies, and would be willing and clever enough to cover up such a horrendous accident of her child dying.
I do not deny, in fact I am SURE that ( IF ) deb is responsible for Lisa's death that OF COURSE her past had a role in this.
It is not my intention to claim any normal person would dispose of their child if they found them dead.
Do you think he could ‘justify’ his actions (’getting rid of‘ Lisa) in order to ‘save’ the rest of them? Just curious what you think.
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"We’d like to talk to him. He’s not a suspect, just another person we believe might have some information we can use," said Kansas City Police Capt. Steven Young. "Nothing more, or different from the long list of people we’ve spoken to."
Kansas City Police have in the past said the couple has failed to be open with authorities because they haven't met separately with detectives since October 8. That interview was cut short by Sean O'Brien, a board member of the Midwestern Innocence Project who briefly helped the family. 'He told me about what went on in the third interview and he ended the third interview,' Picerno said. 'He had had enough. And that's enough for us.'
Speaking on the first birthday of the Northland girl, John Picerno said that Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin already have been “interviewed/interrogated” about their daughter’s Oct. 4 disappearance for more than 30 hours spread across five occasions. “At this point there’s nothing more to be said,” said Picerno, who joined the case two weeks ago. He said the idea that the parents have not been cooperative “is just fantasy.” Bradley and Irwin have been interviewed separately twice without attorneys, he said. The third time they were interviewed, with an attorney present, “it got nasty,” according to Picerno. The attorney called off those interviews, he said. “He had enough, and that’s enough for us,” Picerno said. That attorney, Sean O’Brien, confirmed Friday that he had stopped those interviews because of the “accusatory” nature of police questioning. “It was clear to me it was not going to produce any relevant information,” O’Brien said. O’Brien said that Bradley and Irwin consented to that interview even though previous interviews also had involved accusatory tactics. “They still wanted to give information because they know the police are the best hope of finding their baby,” he said. Picerno said he believes that police are “absolutely” focusing too much on the parents, and he said his clients have indicated that police are treating them like suspects. Read more: www.kansascity.com...
Originally posted by schmae
reply to post by gabby2011
OMG Calm down! I didnt' say you called anyone severe psychos, regarding THIS CASE. I'm talking about murderers, rapists, etc, being severe psychos. AND YOU KNOW IT. You are so quick to judge and jump; and I 'm not being manipulativbe and I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. I had several heaaping mouthfuls of words put into my mouth by David and it took me a good f5 posts to straighten it up because of an exchange you and I had . In that exchange we were talking about murder/ rapists and psychos in GENERAL and NOT about the direct family involved in this case.
I welcomed you back, sincerely , and have enjoyed the talk with you and first instant you can , you come back roaring. Does anyone read ANYTHING anyone else writes here? If not it may as well come down because we've now spent 3 pages on he said, she said with nothing accomplished !
NOW , I will go find the posts and quote them !
I did nowhere object to Gabby's saying those folks are severe psychos,, murderers, etc. I do not deny, in fact I am SURE that ( IF ) deb is responsible for Lisa's death that OF COURSE her past had a role in this.
I agree Debbie has had a very tough life... but I don't see that as a valid reason to say she has severe psychopathic tendencies, and would be willing and clever enough to cover up such a horrendous accident of her child dying.
Im not uninterested in clarifying my point. It's pretty well documented that a lot of murders/ serial killers and child molesters have highly abusive upbringings. That's just fact.
OMG Calm down! I didnt' say you called anyone severe psychos, regarding THIS CASE.
I did nowhere object to Gabby's saying those folks are severe psychos,, murderers, etc. I do not deny, in fact I am SURE that ( IF ) deb is responsible for Lisa's death that OF COURSE her past had a role in this.