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Media Blackout is No More, Wall Street Protest is a Joke: Occupy Wall Street Movement Hoax

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posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by seiva7

Originally posted by shivafire
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STOP THE HATE

I feel you don't understand the 99%
YOU are the 99%

1% of the population holds 40% of the worlds wealth

the remaining 99% are US!



I am, I agree with that.

but I think that 99% in the USA is not ready to go out and protest, at least majority...


Of course they're not... but seeing other people doing it makes them want to take part. I'm not saying OWS will do anything significant, but the points you're making are laughable




posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 12:54 PM
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As of 2010, Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats, 29% as Republicans, and 38% as independents.


First, that adds up to 98%, but who's counting? Maybe they don't count Communist and Nazi party affiliation. Anyway, onto the mean and potatoes.

The "Occupy" people are predominantly Democrat. That means that the "99%" they claim is really 29%. Of those 29% of Democrats nationally, it would be safe to assume that their unemployment rate is equal to the other affiliations at 9.1%. That means that 2.6% of the population is currently Democrat and unemployed. Taking 330 million people in the U.S., the number of unemployed Democrats is around 8 million.

Of those 8 million, you would hope the vast majority would be spending their days looking for work, or educating themselves to find work, maybe starting a business, or doing odds and ends to make ends meet.

As for Republicans and Independents who are unemployed, I think most of them can see that people like Van Jones are behind this movement, and will stay away. I really don't see this getting any more traction than the Tea Party got. And, in the end, it will be controlled by the far left and Democrat party, just like the Tea Party was infiltrated and taken over by the Republican party.

It won't amount to much more than a popcorn fart.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 12:55 PM
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I've said it already - you can hate me for it all you want - but this is going no where and doing nothing other than giving the unemployed and college students something to do other than tweet about inane bs all day.

And to be VERY clear - the 0.0004% of Americans that are protesting against the "1%" do not in any way represent the majority opinion or ideas of the other 99%.

Just because I'm not part of the 1% doesn't mean I hate them and want to tear them down.

Please, speak freely for yourself only... not for me.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:06 PM
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lol @ op, Where are all the real extremists and anarchists? Not collecting picket signs and felt pens thats for sure. Obviously the protestors arnt the ones who will start the "real" fight. These are just peacefull protestors while the real extremists already have there plans, and it dont involve peacfully waving signs.

Seriously, weve all had the thaughts, you know what thaughts i speak of, actions speak louder than words, words will not win this fight, The real extremists know this. You really dont think someone somewhere is collecting more than picket signs?

Our situation will only become worse, tensions will rise, someone will snap, others will follow, peacefull will become violent, and violence will become action. Some of us wont forgive, and some of us wont forget, Some of us are willing to give our lives for this casue, and dont forget that.

So where are the real extremsists? Waiting for the right time to strike.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:10 PM
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People love to comment on internet and consider that they have done on their part and responsibility of action is on others... lol if you will hide your ass they dont Say any bad words about NWO. Let the immenent order come and rule you. We make people fearfull from checmtrails but smoke a packet of cigrates daily... come on guys.. N W O is helping you,... its not against you.. You want to die and you need help



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by seiva7

I would really like to believe there is a revolution starting in the USA.

but let's face it, nothing is going to happen, people are not participating, Americans are passive.

Occupy Wall Street Movement present itself as 99%.

If it's 99% of New Yorkers, where are they? Soon to join?

I don't believe, news are now reporting this, that is a sign that nothing is going to happen...

again.

Wall Street Protest is a Joke: Occupy Wall Street Movement Hoax


Wait, 2000 people protesting in the city of more than 9 million? If you gather all the anarchists in the New York it would be number much greater than 2000, so where are the “unsatisfied” New Yorkers, Americans?


Actually, it was not 2,000, but over 10,000.
And as someone else said, there's many, many more joining the movement on the 15th.

I'm SO tired of the negativity regarding OWS, especially when ATS of ALL people should be the MOST supportive of this movement! Have TPTB really brainwashed you that bad, into believing there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING you can do?

You've forgotten something then, my friend.
They are only 1% of the population.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by seiva7

I would really like to believe there is a revolution starting in the USA.

but let's face it, nothing is going to happen, people are not participating, Americans are passive.

Occupy Wall Street Movement present itself as 99%.

If it's 99% of New Yorkers, where are they? Soon to join?

I don't believe, news are now reporting this, that is a sign that nothing is going to happen...

again.

Wall Street Protest is a Joke: Occupy Wall Street Movement Hoax


Wait, 2000 people protesting in the city of more than 9 million? If you gather all the anarchists in the New York it would be number much greater than 2000, so where are the “unsatisfied” New Yorkers, Americans?

I believe the reason is because no one wants a movement that has no future.It is lacking substance.www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by TheyWontBelieveU




More is coming on October 15th my friend




left gatekeepers of teh world unite! le noble lie continues.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by deadeyedick

Originally posted by seiva7

I would really like to believe there is a revolution starting in the USA.

but let's face it, nothing is going to happen, people are not participating, Americans are passive.

Occupy Wall Street Movement present itself as 99%.

If it's 99% of New Yorkers, where are they? Soon to join?

I don't believe, news are now reporting this, that is a sign that nothing is going to happen...

again.

Wall Street Protest is a Joke: Occupy Wall Street Movement Hoax


Wait, 2000 people protesting in the city of more than 9 million? If you gather all the anarchists in the New York it would be number much greater than 2000, so where are the “unsatisfied” New Yorkers, Americans?

I believe the reason is because no one wants a movement that has no future.It is lacking substance.www.abovetopsecret.com...


How about you guys get a little more ignorant for me? Eh?

It does too have substance, there is an official list of grievances: www.dailypaul.com...

There is a site to vote on demands: coupmedia.org...

AND, for those who just don't get it...

"Democracy is a word we throw around a lot, but it's not one that is very well understood. It's not enough to cast a ballot every four years. Democracy is a system of accountable governance -- a pledge that leaders will represent the interests of those they govern, will protect the weakest in society, and will steward collective resources (like our water and air) to ensure a sustainable future for all of us. It relies on a free press to help inform citizens of governmental action. It relies on freedom of assembly and movement to allow citizens to communicate directly with their representatives.

It is this pure notion of democracy that each and every protestor, from Tahrir Square to Wall St. is after.

So, it's not enough to study Occupy Wall St. as an American anomaly with a surprising lack of cohesion and a fascinating list of diverse demands. It can't be splintered off or explained away. This is the next phase of a global push for real democracy. And, given the poor state of democracy in the United States, it's no surprise cities are exploding with outrage, citizens are on the street, and a national movement has captured the imagination of the nation. " - Huffington Post

"If there is a single, clear theme, it's this: Occupy Wall Street says it represents the interests of 99 percent of the American people, against the 1 percent it says controls 50 percent of the wealth.

Gunner Scott, a spokesman for sister movement Occupy Boston, says of his group, "We are in solidarity. We are fed up with how our country is being run. We want fundamental and lasting change. We are the 99 percent not being represented by government, and our needs are not being met. We want to engage other citizens on how we might reform business and government." He looks forward to a nation where "every person has an equal voice and equal access." - ABC News

Next time, please do your research before making such grandiose claims.

edit on 10/5/2011 by nihonjindesu08 because: Link



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by nihonjindesu08

Originally posted by deadeyedick

Originally posted by seiva7

I would really like to believe there is a revolution starting in the USA.

but let's face it, nothing is going to happen, people are not participating, Americans are passive.

Occupy Wall Street Movement present itself as 99%.

If it's 99% of New Yorkers, where are they? Soon to join?

I don't believe, news are now reporting this, that is a sign that nothing is going to happen...

again.

Wall Street Protest is a Joke: Occupy Wall Street Movement Hoax


Wait, 2000 people protesting in the city of more than 9 million? If you gather all the anarchists in the New York it would be number much greater than 2000, so where are the “unsatisfied” New Yorkers, Americans?

I believe the reason is because no one wants a movement that has no future.It is lacking substance.www.abovetopsecret.com...


How about you guys get a little more ignorant for me? Eh?

It does too have substance, there is an official list of grievances: www.dailypaul.com...

There is a site to vote on demands: coupmedia.org...

AND, for those who just don't get it...

"Democracy is a word we throw around a lot, but it's not one that is very well understood. It's not enough to cast a ballot every four years. Democracy is a system of accountable governance -- a pledge that leaders will represent the interests of those they govern, will protect the weakest in society, and will steward collective resources (like our water and air) to ensure a sustainable future for all of us. It relies on a free press to help inform citizens of governmental action. It relies on freedom of assembly and movement to allow citizens to communicate directly with their representatives.

It is this pure notion of democracy that each and every protestor, from Tahrir Square to Wall St. is after.

So, it's not enough to study Occupy Wall St. as an American anomaly with a surprising lack of cohesion and a fascinating list of diverse demands. It can't be splintered off or explained away. This is the next phase of a global push for real democracy. And, given the poor state of democracy in the United States, it's no surprise cities are exploding with outrage, citizens are on the street, and a national movement has captured the imagination of the nation. " - Huffington Post

"If there is a single, clear theme, it's this: Occupy Wall Street says it represents the interests of 99 percent of the American people, against the 1 percent it says controls 50 percent of the wealth.

Gunner Scott, a spokesman for sister movement Occupy Boston, says of his group, "We are in solidarity. We are fed up with how our country is being run. We want fundamental and lasting change. We are the 99 percent not being represented by government, and our needs are not being met. We want to engage other citizens on how we might reform business and government." He looks forward to a nation where "every person has an equal voice and equal access." - ABC News

Next time, please do your research before making such grandiose claims.

edit on 10/5/2011 by nihonjindesu08 because: Link


Oh #.. you're kidding right? We can "vote" for the demands of a movement with no substance or leadership?

The reason this won't go anywhere is because it's partisan. Look at all of your "sources"... left wing agenda on the march to get Obama elected again.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by seiva7

I would really like to believe there is a revolution starting in the USA.

but let's face it, nothing is going to happen, people are not participating, Americans are passive.

Occupy Wall Street Movement present itself as 99%.

If it's 99% of New Yorkers, where are they? Soon to join?

I don't believe, news are now reporting this, that is a sign that nothing is going to happen...

again.

Wall Street Protest is a Joke: Occupy Wall Street Movement Hoax


Wait, 2000 people protesting in the city of more than 9 million? If you gather all the anarchists in the New York it would be number much greater than 2000, so where are the “unsatisfied” New Yorkers, Americans?


Just because you think it should be bigger does not make everything a hoax.

I'd say I have seen enough evidence that something is happening for real.

Where is the Hoax? Are the protesters fake?



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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I've often wondered how one becomes so daft. Do people forfeit their amazing ability of thought?



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:46 PM
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I tiny problem with the movements whole ideology.

The US is not a democracy.

Never has been.

Why would anybody expect it to be one now?



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by Carseller4
It is a joke.

Most do not even know what they are protesting.

Wall Street as a whole is very liberal, look at how much money was donated by them to Obama.

Shouldn't they be protesting wars or something? That kind of went away when Obama took office.


Are you fu*king kidding me? What's wrong with you and the people who do not understand this movement? Oh I get it, you watch the MSM and believe every single word that's fed to you. Good god, man.

The protesters are Libertarians, Tea Partiers, Communists, Socialists, Anarchists, Hippies, Republicans, Democrats, Unionists, ETC.

It's EVERYONE. Everyone is pissed about the corporations running the government and everyone is pissed about the senseless wars. Do yourself a favor, Bud, go down to Wall Street and see the protesters. Talk to them. Maybe then (maybe) you can come back here and have the right to talk about who's protesting and who's not.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 03:03 PM
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Pissed they may be.

Right on some issues they may be.

Barking up the wrong tree they are.

Currently the protesters have yet to find the ring for the fight.

You want change, than there should be a protest in front of the white house.

There should be protesters parked infront of every congressmens(womens) house.

There should be protesters camped outside Capitol Hill.

Attacking those who took advantage of a system does nothing to those who create and manage the system.

Well, if they want change to happen fast anyways...



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by seiva7

I would really like to believe there is a revolution starting in the USA.

but let's face it, nothing is going to happen, people are not participating, Americans are passive.

Occupy Wall Street Movement present itself as 99%.

If it's 99% of New Yorkers, where are they? Soon to join?

I don't believe, news are now reporting this, that is a sign that nothing is going to happen...

again.

Wall Street Protest is a Joke: Occupy Wall Street Movement Hoax


Wait, 2000 people protesting in the city of more than 9 million? If you gather all the anarchists in the New York it would be number much greater than 2000, so where are the “unsatisfied” New Yorkers, Americans?


Good point!

That's the biggest farce with promoters/defenders of democracy... they always pretend to represent some undefined mass of people "behind" them as if they'd be part of some elect group. Should they speak for themselves, they'd suddenly lose all of their self-inflated political hot air and wouldn't fly like this, as they'd fail to find any valid rationale for uprising.

Represent yourself, or shut up, social-democrats!
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posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by seiva7

I would really like to believe there is a revolution starting in the USA.

but let's face it, nothing is going to happen, people are not participating, Americans are passive.

Occupy Wall Street Movement present itself as 99%.

If it's 99% of New Yorkers, where are they? Soon to join?

I don't believe, news are now reporting this, that is a sign that nothing is going to happen...

again.



First of all, you're misinterpreting 99%. Not everyone is awake to the realities of the situation, most people are deeply and adversely affected by it. Secondly, since when does the MSM's spin on a news story give it any or no credence?

I don't care if the MSM is trying to mock the protests with propaganda. I'll still be here, in Grand Rapids, where it has spread, and join here. It's not a 'hoax'. That's your attempt at getting a lot of flags or something for your internet stats. Nice topic. Ignorance denied.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 03:52 PM
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Just because I'm not part of the 1% doesn't mean I hate them and want to tear them down.

Please, speak freely for yourself only... not for me.


Fair comment.

The thing is I don't want people protesting on my behalf that is why I will be joining the local movement on the 15th October.

Look for your nearest City and go along and witness what it is all about. Peaceful Non Compliance.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by peck420
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Pissed they may be.

Right on some issues they may be.

Barking up the wrong tree they are.

Currently the protesters have yet to find the ring for the fight.

You want change, than there should be a protest in front of the white house.

There should be protesters parked infront of every congressmens(womens) house.

There should be protesters camped outside Capitol Hill.

Attacking those who took advantage of a system does nothing to those who create and manage the system.

Well, if they want change to happen fast anyways...



Attacking those who took advantage of the system? You mean attacking those who purchased the system, right? The protests are about corporate America buying out politicians and the corporations/banks who took away homes and jobs.

You really honestly think protesters should be outside of every congressman/woman's home screaming and waving signs?

Also, the protests are spreading across the country, not just on Wall St. The movement is growing. Its time to get on board and get pissed along with the logical side of America.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 04:30 PM
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Attacking those who purchased the system?

Lol, those people don't live on or near wall street. They won't be affected by this in the least. Their money is insured and even bet against (yes, you can hedge yourself if you have enough), they will profit from this regardless of the outcome.

The only people that are going to get hurt are other average Americans (those that actually work on wall street).



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