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Originally posted by mileslong54
reply to post by AllUrChips
Don't put anything important on your phone, problem solved.
Originally posted by dannotz
Don't put anything on your phones, don't drive in the dark, don't meet up with more than 3 people, don't interact in public..just move along.
DON'T LEAVE YOUR HOUSE, DON'T QUESTION MY AUTHORITY, DON'T SHOP THERE, DON'T INVESTIGATE, DON'T REPORT, DON'T FIGHT IT.
OH, turn on your tv and sit.
i dunno where this is going...haha
Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by AllUrChips
Uh, it sounds like they did a little more than remove some stoner gun owners. 15k in cash, marijuana and a cache of guns does not indicate a normal gun owner with an innocent drug habit.
if tomorrow, california decides that police officers can kill anyone they want without reason with no repercussions, it would be completely legal, would it not? after all, some of those they kill will be criminals.
would you still support this completely "legal" law? hell no.
legality does not determine the morality of an action. the action here is the invasion of privacy without a search warrant and probable cause. that is wrong and illegal.
not everyone is a criminal, and just because i like privacy doesn't mean i've committed any illegal actions. innocent until proven guilty is so pesky, don't you think?
I think its about the principle, not being clear. WHERES YOU WARRANT?
Actually if you read my post correctly I stated "I wonder" if he was a MMJ user being that he lived in Cali but I never said it was a fact. I did however post the facts below from other website about his case.
Wait, so if he had legal firearms but was in possession of illegal drugs, those legal firearms become illegal because of the illegal drugs? What? I'm no lawyer nor am I a drug dealing, firearm touting dealer, but either way, if that's the case I never knew that.
So from the illegal search of the phone (depending) SWAT raided his house because of a picutre and that's when they discovered the drugs, grow equipment, money, and cache of firearms. So a picture can get you raided. The article states it is legal to own those weapons if you owned them prior to Cali's assault weapons ban, or they picture could have been taken in another state, or he could have found it on the web, liked it, and kept it on his phone. Basically a picture allowed SWAT to raid his house because the officer searched his phone.
That's bull#, through and through. And now the young man is dead, from what I cannot find because they won't release the details, but from this case they're gonna user the appeal to allow all Cali cops to be allowed to search cell phones from a simple traffic stop? More bull#.