Occupy Wall Street Crew Proves They're Morons!

reply to post by gncnew
I've been saying for quite some time now that this "event" has the full faith and backing of the White House.

It is a weak and failed attempt to deflect blame from this administration and place it on Wall Street.

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by gncnew

 

Mhhhhh...don't take this the wrong way, but given that this isn't an official list of demands, and you grabbed it from a site just named after the movement...I have to wonder who's really the moron

I hope you realize that if I create a website called "www.motherteresalove.com" and on there claim she said "I rape babies before eating them alive", that doesn't mean she really said that

The problem isn't this ridiculous "protest" ...

If you believe it to be ridiculous, you might want to educate yourself and read this. Or you could ask yourself why you believe it's ok you pay 40% more for your gas because of Wall Street...or why it's ok that they hand out record bonuses paid for with tax payer money. So much wrong with Wall Street, so many reasons to protest, yet you claim it's ridiculous to protest....makes perfect sense

edit on 4-10-2011 by MrXYZ because: (no reason given)

I've "educated" myself plenty - and why not this list? It's from one of their supporters and a "member" of the movement.

Is there actually an "official" list? Hell - I've seen signs and banners from stopping some dude's execution to gay rights.

THERE IS NO COHERENT POINT other than a bunch of people who've got WAY too much time on their hands and are over educated in school and under-educated in life are not happy with things... and want change.

THEY DON"T EVEN KNOW WHAT CHANGE... just "change". So ridiculous.

Look up a few posts and youll see the demands right there.
And im not saying all people do
But people are pissed. Theres no point in me arguing with a brick wall. You dont support it, thats fine. Hundreds of thousands of others do.

reply to post by gncnew


morons is too nice a word my word choice would have been an ats violation

for crying outloud

end free trade? done long time ago

1 trillion for plants and trees? yeah they really do think money grows on trees

that is total and utter nonsense

reply to post by beezzer


Well, Wall Street IS ultimately responsible. Sure, politicians (all parties tbh) helped them achieve this, but they're just paid sock puppets deregulating the financial industry to the point where they could screw all of us.

So not sure what your point is. Wall Street IS the root cause of the issue

Gas costs 40% more because of Wall Street, they pay record boni with taxpayer money, commit crimes they're not being prosecuted for (google "vampire squid on the face of humanity" or just click the link I posted in my previous post), tell the dumb money (aka Joe Average) one thing before betting the other way (because they know ultimately the dumb money will lose out), and they're misleading investors on purpose (subprime mortgage...).

But somehow you believe they're not at fault for the state of the economy???? REALLY???

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by gncnew

 

morons is too nice a word my word choice would have been an ats violation

for crying outloud

end free trade? done long time ago

1 trillion for plants and trees? yeah they really do think money grows on trees

that is total and utter nonsense

edit on 4-10-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)

If you read through the thread, it was pointed out that it was written by another member, in the forum section of the website. So they are not the official demands.

Originally posted by AzureSky
Yeah, lol. Thats a forum post, not the official demands. Good job. Here are the real demands:

LIST OF PROPOSED "DEMANDS FOR CONGRESS"
CONGRESS PASS HR 1489 ("RETURN TO PRUDENT BANKING ACT" www.govtrack.us... ). THIS REINSTATES MANY PROVISIONS OF THE GLASS-STEAGALL ACT. en.wikipedia.org...–Steagall_Act --- Wiki entry summary: The repeal of provisions of the Glass–Steagall Act of 1933 by the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act in 1999 effectively removed the separation that previously existed between investment banking which issued securities and commercial banks which accepted deposits. The deregulation also removed conflict of interest prohibitions between investment bankers serving as officers of commercial banks. Most economists believe this repeal directly contributed to the severity of the Financial crisis of 2007–2011 by allowing Wall Street investment banking firms to gamble with their depositors' money that was held in commercial banks owned or created by the investment firms. Here's detail on repeal in 1999 and how it happened: en.wikipedia.org...–Steagall_Act#Repeal .
Vote Here #1

USE CONGRESSIONAL AUTHORITY AND OVERSIGHT TO ENSURE APPROPRIATE FEDERAL AGENCIES FULLY INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE THE WALL STREET CRIMINALS who clearly broke the law and helped cause the 2008 financial crisis in the following notable cases: (insert list of the most clear cut criminal actions). There is a pretty broad consensus that there is a clear group of people who got away with millions / billions illegally and haven't been brought to justice. Boy would this be long overdue and cathartic for millions of Americans. It would also be a shot across the bow for the financial industry. If you watch the solidly researched and awared winning documentary film "Inside Job" that was narrated by Matt Damon (pretty brave Matt!) and do other research, it wouldn't take long to develop the list.
Vote Here #2

CONGRESS ENACT LEGISLATION TO PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY BY REVERSING THE EFFECTS OF THE CITIZENS UNITED SUPREME COURT DECISION which essentially said corporations can spend as much as they want on elections. The result is that corporations can pretty much buy elections. Corporations should be highly limited in ability to contribute to political campaigns no matter what the election and no matter what the form of media. This legislation should also RE-ESTABLISH THE PUBLIC AIRWAVES IN THE U.S. SO THAT POLITICAL CANDIDATES ARE GIVEN EQUAL TIME FOR FREE AT REASONABLE INTERVALS IN DAILY PROGRAMMING DURING CAMPAIGN SEASON. The same should extend to other media.
Vote Here #3

CONGRESS PASS THE BUFFETT RULE ON FAIR TAXATION SO THE RICH AND CORPORATIONS PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE & CLOSE CORPORATE TAX LOOP HOLES AND ENACT A PROHIBITION ON HIDING FUNDS OFF SHORE. No more GE paying zero or negative taxes. Pass the Buffet Rule on fair taxation so the rich pay their fair share. (If we have a really had a good negotiating position and have the place surrounded, we could actually dial up taxes on millionaires, billionaires and corporations even higher...back to what they once were in the 50's and 60's.
Vote Here #4

Source

There are more demands there, couldn't fit them all in to one post. They're detailed. Check it out.

Thats the one i see around most. So. Stop being a troll and trying to run with false information

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edit on 4/10/11 by AzureSky because: (no reason given)

Demands again for you since you missed them, even though they were repeated

reply to post by gncnew


They don't even need a list of demands. All they need to achieve is to highlight their outrage about Wall Street's misconduct...if they keep it up, and more people join, it'll FORCE politicians to act. They can be paid off, sure, but not if the public's face is being rubbed in it all the time...something that hasn't happened for ages.

The Tea Party was originally the party most opposed to the bailouts, yet for some ironic reason they now seem to be against going after the very people who started the financial crisis. Well, not really ironic, they've been so brainwashed (together with 90% of the country) by their major donors (Koch brothers), they are now against the very thing that got them going at the start. And even worse, most of the mainstream media is so bought by big business (including Wall Street), it's no wonder there's smear campaigns trying to ridicule the protestors.

Kinda weird that there's people now against going after the people who started the crisis...but I guess it just shows how manipulated the general public is.

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by beezzer

 

Well, Wall Street IS ultimately responsible. Sure, politicians (all parties tbh) helped them achieve this, but they're just paid sock puppets deregulating the financial industry to the point where they could screw all of us.

So not sure what your point is. Wall Street IS the root cause of the issue

Gas costs 40% more because of Wall Street, they pay record boni with taxpayer money, commit crimes they're not being prosecuted for (google "vampire squid on the face of humanity" or just click the link I posted in my previous post), tell the dumb money (aka Joe Average) one thing before betting the other way (because they know ultimately the dumb money will lose out), and they're misleading investors on purpose (subprime mortgage...).

But somehow you believe they're not at fault for the state of the economy???? REALLY???

Last time I checked, Wall Street didn't write the laws. Politicians did.

Blame anyone but the ones responsible.

reply to post by beezzer


The politicians merely let it happen because WALL STREET paid them off. Yes they're to blame as well, but the ultimate things causing the crisis were actions by Wall Street.

No one's saying those sock puppet politicians shouldn't be punished, but that's no reason not to protest against the obvious misconduct of Wall Street.

They paid out MASSIVE boni paid for with taxpayer money, only a fool wouldn't be outraged about that. Sure, politicians could have prevented it by laws, but that would kinda go against the whole "smaller government" mantra...no?

So what is it? Smaller government, letting the corporations # up and screw everyone, and then argue complaining about them screwing everyone is wrong? Or would you prefer a larger government and then whine about that?

There has to be a middle ground, both extremes suck...but right now it's HEAVILY skewed towards big business and a small minority of the population. Those protestors are against that, and imo they are 100% right in being outraged.

But yeah, politicians should be punished too, they've been systematically deregulating the financial industry in ways that now got us in this mess...and I'm talking about politicians of all parties! Bush put the last nail in the coffin that holds the once sustainable economy, and he did it with a single speech:



"Loans for everyone, doesn't matter if you can afford it...yayyyyyyyy!"

Insanity!!

reply to post by MrXYZ
*whew*
At least there are some that are at least understanding that politicians are at fault.

Now lets go one step further.

If the politicians had backbones, integrity, morals, then THEY WOUNDN'T ACCEPT THE BRIBES.

Wall Street "greed" would fall faster than a stack of charmin at Michal Moore's house.

Get the morons out of DC and the idiots in Wall Street won't have anyone to bribe.

Conversly, keeping the idiots in DC and just replacing the morons on Wall Street will perpetuate the problem while just giving the illusion of solving it.

REMEMBER THIS! When elections come up this year, look into the peoples posting history, check who and what they support! Stop falling for the propaganda!

reply to post by beezzer


Also, next time a Tea Party member like above tells you they are not a repub out to support corpirate America, Vote for Ron Paul, hate the FED and pat Wall Street on the back..

REMEMBER THIS DAY AND THEIR WORDS!

Remember who is who and just who is on what side!

Originally posted by ShogunAssassins
reply to post by beezzer

 

Also, next time a Tea Party member like above tells you they are not a repub out to support corpirate America, Vote for Ron Paul, hate the FED and pat Wall Street on the back..

REMEMBER THIS DAY AND THEIR WORDS!

Remember who is who and just who is on what side!

I'll remind them, don't you worry your pretty little head, puddin'.

reply to post by beezzer


Oh, beezer.. I doubt you will because i have spoken with you in the past and seen you at work.

I have seen that "all for the people" act. Just today and on this issue you cant hide the truth, because you have to support political ideals you hold near and dear.

Originally posted by ShogunAssassins
reply to post by beezzer

 

Oh, beezer.. I doubt you will because i have spoken with you in the past and seen you at work.

I have seen that "all for the people" act. Just today and on this issue you cant hide the truth, because you have to support political ideals you hold near and dear.

edit on 4-10-2011 by ShogunAssassins because: (no reason given)

I get a huge kick when I have complete strangers tell me what I believe.
The difference between me and the people protesting and perhaps even you is that I don't need to ask someone or have someone tell me what my beliefs are.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by MrXYZ

 

*whew*
At least there are some that are at least understanding that politicians are at fault.

Now lets go one step further.

If the politicians had backbones, integrity, morals, then THEY WOUNDN'T ACCEPT THE BRIBES.

Wall Street "greed" would fall faster than a stack of charmin at Michal Moore's house.

Get the morons out of DC and the idiots in Wall Street won't have anyone to bribe.

Conversly, keeping the idiots in DC and just replacing the morons on Wall Street will perpetuate the problem while just giving the illusion of solving it.

Greed is a common trait of humans, 99.999999% of us are bribable. All that changes is the amount required. How much would I have to pay you to eat your own #? $100k? $1m? $10m? How much? There will be an amount where you'll just go "f*** it, let's do this!!" no matter how dumb or greedy you look

So there need to be measures in place that prevents them from being bribed, laws need to be put in place, the system needs to be fixed. But asking politicians to change for the better without being forced to is ridiculous and won't ever happen.

Also, no one's talking about "replacing" anyone at Wall Street. People want those who messed up on Wall Street to have to pay up. The want measures in place that prevent such things, and yes, that will have to include measures to ensure politicians can't be bought like now.

The general public has been dumbed down so much, and their attention span shortened so drastically, that so far most of them have simply ignored the issue. Those protestors are trying to change that, trying to point out how much Wall Street messed up. Once the public WAKES UP, they will force the politicians to change stuff...because ultimately they still need the people's vote. It's just a matter of waking the public up.



Let me ask you, what would you propose to go after those Wall Street bankers and politicians who messed up? Protest or not? How?

Because all that happened so far is keeping quiet about it and accepting the status quo. Hell, it even got worse since the start of the crisis, "corporations are now people" made it soooooooooo much easier for Wall Street and big business to screw over people

Also, you know what's ironic? The fact that you have "tea party member" in your avatar, showing support for the party who originally protested the bailouts and Wall Street. And they did that through...wait for it...waaaaaaaait for it...PROTESTING!!!

This whole thread should have died a long time ago.

OP didn't even get the right damn list of demands, he just posted some gibberish from some spoilt little brat kid .


OP , please research, source and confirm things before you post.
I can only imagine how stupid you feel.

reply to post by gncnew


Knew is reeked of Progressive-ism, Communism, Socialism, Cloward Piven, Marxism and the rest.

Well, they are either unemployed, or soon will be as this much time away from any job will get them terminated.

Maybe some jobs will open up.

reply to post by MrXYZ
I wouldn't protest.
They'd just laugh, as they are doing now.
To fix the problem, as you stated in your post, has to begin in DC. Put laws in place where the pols have no choice but to act morally.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Who watches the watchers?

We do. We need to. And for too long in the past we have failed. We need to be the driving force to enact legislation that'll force the spineless in DC to act accordingly.