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Occupy Wall Street Crew Proves They're Morons!

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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:16 PM
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they could have just condensed that down to just

Demand One: become socialist.




posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:18 PM
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People crack me up, man..




Those are not the real demands, I realized that about five words in.


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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:20 PM
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That's totally NOT the list that I saw posted all over the occupywallstreet facebook page OR any of the other occupy pages I've seen.

2nd line



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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That's totally NOT the list that I saw posted all over the occupywallstreet facebook page OR any of the other occupy pages I've seen.


Because it's not the list, it's being passed off AS the list as a smear campaign, and it appears to be working on some of the weaker minded users here, and abroad. Ahh the times we live in, isn't it amazing? No, not amazing, disgusting and disheartening. Yes, that's what it is.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:25 PM
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hey i just thought of a compromise that costs the nation nothing.

legalize pot. they all go away.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave
Yeah, that's why you've got a bunch of loons running around talking smack about them. Mommy and daddy probably gave half of the clowns posting here their downpayment money on their house, or whatever. Silver spoon loons are in abundance here at ATS


And if you disagree, you are a communist socialist.


Funny you could say the same thing about the protestors. I don't have a lot of sympathy for somebody complaining that they owe $30,000 in student loans because they went to Harvard. My personal favorite was the guy whining about being in debt because he went to Princeton. Last time I checked Princeton was a full free ride scholarship.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:34 PM
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That is NOT the right list!! That list was made by a forum member acting on his own.

I posted about that old list too but it was pointed out to me that there is another list, that's being made by We The People, not this one guy Lloyd.

occupywallst.org...

Not many people liked this list so they made this one to be more in keeping with Americans true wishes:


LIST OF PROPOSED "DEMANDS FOR CONGRESS"

CONGRESS PASS HR 1489 ("RETURN TO PRUDENT BANKING ACT" www.govtrack.us... ). THIS REINSTATES MANY PROVISIONS OF THE GLASS-STEAGALL ACT. en.wikipedia.org...–Steagall_Act --- Wiki entry summary: The repeal of provisions of the Glass–Steagall Act of 1933 by the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act in 1999 effectively removed the separation that previously existed between investment banking which issued securities and commercial banks which accepted deposits. The deregulation also removed conflict of interest prohibitions between investment bankers serving as officers of commercial banks. Most economists believe this repeal directly contributed to the severity of the Financial crisis of 2007–2011 by allowing Wall Street investment banking firms to gamble with their depositors' money that was held in commercial banks owned or created by the investment firms. Here's detail on repeal in 1999 and how it happened: en.wikipedia.org...–Steagall_Act#Repeal .

USE CONGRESSIONAL AUTHORITY AND OVERSIGHT TO ENSURE APPROPRIATE FEDERAL AGENCIES FULLY INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE THE WALL STREET CRIMINALS who clearly broke the law and helped cause the 2008 financial crisis in the following notable cases: (insert list of the most clear cut criminal actions). There is a pretty broad consensus that there is a clear group of people who got away with millions / billions illegally and haven't been brought to justice. Boy would this be long overdue and cathartic for millions of Americans. It would also be a shot across the bow for the financial industry. If you watch the solidly researched and awared winning documentary film "Inside Job" that was narrated by Matt Damon (pretty brave Matt!) and do other research, it wouldn't take long to develop the list.

CONGRESS ENACT LEGISLATION TO PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY BY REVERSING THE EFFECTS OF THE CITIZENS UNITED SUPREME COURT DECISION which essentially said corporations can spend as much as they want on elections. The result is that corporations can pretty much buy elections. Corporations should be highly limited in ability to contribute to political campaigns no matter what the election and no matter what the form of media. This legislation should also RE-ESTABLISH THE PUBLIC AIRWAVES IN THE U.S. SO THAT POLITICAL CANDIDATES ARE GIVEN EQUAL TIME FOR FREE AT REASONABLE INTERVALS IN DAILY PROGRAMMING DURING CAMPAIGN SEASON. The same should extend to other media.

CONGRESS PASS THE BUFFETT RULE ON FAIR TAXATION SO THE RICH AND CORPORATIONS PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE & CLOSE CORPORATE TAX LOOP HOLES AND ENACT A PROHIBITION ON HIDING FUNDS OFF SHORE. No more GE paying zero or negative taxes. Pass the Buffet Rule on fair taxation so the rich pay their fair share. (If we have a really had a good negotiating position and have the place surrounded, we could actually dial up taxes on millionaires, billionaires and corporations even higher...back to what they once were in the 50's and 60's.

CONGRESS COMPLETELY REVAMP THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION and staff it at all levels with proven professionals who get the job done protecting the integrity of the marketplace so citizens and investors are both protected. This agency needs a large staff and needs to be well-funded. It's currently has a joke of a budget and is run by Wall St. insiders who often leave for high ticket cushy jobs with the corporations they were just regulating. Hmmm.

CONGRESS PASS SPECIFIC AND EFFECTIVE LAWS LIMITING THE INFLUENCE OF LOBBYISTS AND ELIMINATING THE PRACTICE OF LOBBYISTS WRITING LEGISLATION THAT ENDS UP ON THE FLOOR OF CONGRESS.

CONGRESS PASSING "Revolving Door Legislation" LEGISLATION ELIMINATING THE ABILITY OF FORMER GOVERNMENT REGULATORS GOING TO WORK FOR CORPORATIONS THAT THEY ONCE REGULATED. So, you don't get to work at the FDA for five years playing softball with Pfizer and then go to work for Pfizer making $195,000 a year. While they're at it, Congress should pass specific and effective laws to enforce strict judicial standards of conduct in matters concerning conflicts of interest. So long as judges are culled from the ranks of corporate attorneys the 1% will retain control.


I cannot fit it all here. See the link above for the real full list of demands.
edit on 4-10-2011 by JohnPhoenix because: sp



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:34 PM
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$30,00 in loans for Harvard?

When is the last time that you've read something about the cost of a college education over the past 5 years?



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:36 PM
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I'm just repeating what the girl said on television last night. I believe it was MSNBC.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
That is NOT the right list!! That list was made by a forum member acting on his own.

I posted about that old list too but it was pointed out to me that there is another list, that's being made by We The People, not this one guy Lloyd.

occupywallst.org...

Not many people liked this list so they made this one to be more in keeping with Americans true wishes:


LIST OF PROPOSED "DEMANDS FOR CONGRESS"

CONGRESS PASS HR 1489 ("RETURN TO PRUDENT BANKING ACT" www.govtrack.us... ). THIS REINSTATES MANY PROVISIONS OF THE GLASS-STEAGALL ACT. en.wikipedia.org...–Steagall_Act --- Wiki entry summary: The repeal of provisions of the Glass–Steagall Act of 1933 by the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act in 1999 effectively removed the separation that previously existed between investment banking which issued securities and commercial banks which accepted deposits. The deregulation also removed conflict of interest prohibitions between investment bankers serving as officers of commercial banks. Most economists believe this repeal directly contributed to the severity of the Financial crisis of 2007–2011 by allowing Wall Street investment banking firms to gamble with their depositors' money that was held in commercial banks owned or created by the investment firms. Here's detail on repeal in 1999 and how it happened: en.wikipedia.org...–Steagall_Act#Repeal .

USE CONGRESSIONAL AUTHORITY AND OVERSIGHT TO ENSURE APPROPRIATE FEDERAL AGENCIES FULLY INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE THE WALL STREET CRIMINALS who clearly broke the law and helped cause the 2008 financial crisis in the following notable cases: (insert list of the most clear cut criminal actions). There is a pretty broad consensus that there is a clear group of people who got away with millions / billions illegally and haven't been brought to justice. Boy would this be long overdue and cathartic for millions of Americans. It would also be a shot across the bow for the financial industry. If you watch the solidly researched and awared winning documentary film "Inside Job" that was narrated by Matt Damon (pretty brave Matt!) and do other research, it wouldn't take long to develop the list.

CONGRESS ENACT LEGISLATION TO PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY BY REVERSING THE EFFECTS OF THE CITIZENS UNITED SUPREME COURT DECISION which essentially said corporations can spend as much as they want on elections. The result is that corporations can pretty much buy elections. Corporations should be highly limited in ability to contribute to political campaigns no matter what the election and no matter what the form of media. This legislation should also RE-ESTABLISH THE PUBLIC AIRWAVES IN THE U.S. SO THAT POLITICAL CANDIDATES ARE GIVEN EQUAL TIME FOR FREE AT REASONABLE INTERVALS IN DAILY PROGRAMMING DURING CAMPAIGN SEASON. The same should extend to other media.

CONGRESS PASS THE BUFFETT RULE ON FAIR TAXATION SO THE RICH AND CORPORATIONS PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE & CLOSE CORPORATE TAX LOOP HOLES AND ENACT A PROHIBITION ON HIDING FUNDS OFF SHORE. No more GE paying zero or negative taxes. Pass the Buffet Rule on fair taxation so the rich pay their fair share. (If we have a really had a good negotiating position and have the place surrounded, we could actually dial up taxes on millionaires, billionaires and corporations even higher...back to what they once were in the 50's and 60's.

CONGRESS COMPLETELY REVAMP THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION and staff it at all levels with proven professionals who get the job done protecting the integrity of the marketplace so citizens and investors are both protected. This agency needs a large staff and needs to be well-funded. It's currently has a joke of a budget and is run by Wall St. insiders who often leave for high ticket cushy jobs with the corporations they were just regulating. Hmmm.

CONGRESS PASS SPECIFIC AND EFFECTIVE LAWS LIMITING THE INFLUENCE OF LOBBYISTS AND ELIMINATING THE PRACTICE OF LOBBYISTS WRITING LEGISLATION THAT ENDS UP ON THE FLOOR OF CONGRESS.

CONGRESS PASSING "Revolving Door Legislation" LEGISLATION ELIMINATING THE ABILITY OF FORMER GOVERNMENT REGULATORS GOING TO WORK FOR CORPORATIONS THAT THEY ONCE REGULATED. So, you don't get to work at the FDA for five years playing softball with Pfizer and then go to work for Pfizer making $195,000 a year. While they're at it, Congress should pass specific and effective laws to enforce strict judicial standards of conduct in matters concerning conflicts of interest. So long as judges are culled from the ranks of corporate attorneys the 1% will retain control.


I cannot fit it all here. See the link above for the real full list of demands.
edit on 4-10-2011 by JohnPhoenix because: sp


Already said this on the first page, lol



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by AzureSky
Actually, A lot of americans are leaving the united states, and if not, at least crossing the border to work here. I watched it somewhere the other day, ill try to find the source for you. But yeah, some of them are definatly trying to get out.

And that is his own list of things he percieves the list of demands as.

He's making a mockery of it, really. Lol. You lost the game.


So he's making a mockery of it? Really? You are really going to play that card... sad really, but ok. And I guess you also believe that Gov Bev Perdue of N.C. was just "joking" when she talked about suspending the congressional elections as well right?



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by AzureSky

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I wonder how intoxicated they'd have to get to come up with that list of gibberish? Demands are something I'd expect to see as immediate, physically possible and realistic to how the world works. Many of their points are so far into the realm of Utopian fantasy, it's just not worth even discussing.

And to think....some people thought the 'chicken in every pot' concept was silly. They'd never believe a list like this coming out and presented as something other than pure comedy. Okay...sober up down there, protesters. We'd like to see the REAL list of demands now.

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That isnt the list of demands, lol. Read my above post.
He made a mockery of it, ive read the list of demands. That's not it.

Also, here is my source from before, about how the amount of american workers coming to canada to work has double between 2008-2010 Source


You've read the real demands have you? Really? Please share...



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by MrKnoxx
This is so comical. A group of people actually get off their collective asses and go out in boots with voices to create any form of change that people like you talk about on the internet, and all you can do is do what you are already conditioned to, be a shill, fear of change, and create a division when unity is present in the ranks. Typical Modern American Bull#. Congrats.


Yes, I'm a shill and scared of change... That's it. The problem isn't this ridiculous "protest" or the worthless rhetoric coming out of it - it's me, on a message board.

Thanks for the input...

Ohhhhhh - by the way, change just for the sake of change doesn't help anything, the best of intentions with the worst of results still makes for a bad day - no matter how well you meant it.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 02:07 PM
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Where is the link to the list, you need to post a ling to back the OP, my friend, just a friendly reminder. While I find the list childish and somewhat incoherent I do not believe that this list is true.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 02:09 PM
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While I don't agree with many of the demands on this list, It does sound more coherent and well prepared.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by AzureSky
Yeah, lol. Thats a forum post, not the official demands. Good job. Here are the real demands:


Source

There are more demands there, couldn't fit them all in to one post. They're detailed. Check it out.

Thats the one i see around most. So. Stop being a troll and trying to run with false information
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edit on 4/10/11 by AzureSky because: (no reason given)


So I'm not to believe the guy at "www.OccuptyWallStreet.org" who's got lots of what appear to be sincere comments from involved individuals on his post about the demands.

But I am supposed to believe a website that obviously just installed Joomla yesterday and posted a purely Democrat agenda?

I thought "We the People" was party neutral? I thought they were against "the man"... I guess just not against "The Man" in the White House?

What a damn absurd joke.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 02:10 PM
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Mhhhhh...don't take this the wrong way, but given that this isn't an official list of demands, and you grabbed it from a site just named after the movement...I have to wonder who's really the moron


I hope you realize that if I create a website called "www.motherteresalove.com" and on there claim she said "I rape babies before eating them alive", that doesn't mean she really said that





The problem isn't this ridiculous "protest" ...


If you believe it to be ridiculous, you might want to educate yourself and read this. Or you could ask yourself why you believe it's ok you pay 40% more for your gas because of Wall Street...or why it's ok that they hand out record bonuses paid for with tax payer money. So much wrong with Wall Street, so many reasons to protest, yet you claim it's ridiculous to protest....makes perfect sense


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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by purplemer
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Can you really not understand why people are protesting... As the world cracks around you would your prefer to carry on as business as usual...




‎"The ultimate end of all revolutionary social change is to establish the sanctity of human life, the dignity of man, the right of every human being to liberty and well-being." - Emma Goldman


I would rather they effect the change they so desperately say they seek. I would rather they's obviously underemployed folks donate some good (like what they paid for their MacBooks and iPhones) to support the actual homeless and hungry. I would rather take their talents like many a religious organization has and create a charity that actually mobilizes people into action that matters instead of lazily sitting around and having a grand fair in the middle of the city.

I've got a job and a family. I can't take near the time to change the world that I would like - but I can certainly bet I've had more of an impact than this whole stupid thing.

Anyone who's actually fed someone at the rescue shelter has done more than this "movement".



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by AzureSky
The people talking have never lived that livestyle. Not being able to afford anything. Wondering if you're going to be homeless.

That is why they look down on ows with disdain, they're happy, they don't see any issue with that. Well, hoping they are the minority, because it seems like a lot of them like to converge here on ATS and troll around.

I smell possible cointelpro.


Look, I've been poorer than you can imagine, and I'm certainly not rich... This is so ridiculous.

You do realize that others in the world look at you with disdain because you're so wrapped up in your political fun-time that you've never offered the sweat of your brow to those who need it?

Everyone's got time (Some obviously WAY more than others) - why not give it to something that matters instead of something that feels "cool and sexy" like ... "Occupy Wall Street"?



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by AzureSky
They're not alone. People do support them. The unemployment rate in the us is 9.1%. Those people cannot find jobs because there are none to be had.
You're obviously not part of that 9.1%. that doesnt include people struggling to pay housing costs, some people work two jobs and still can't make it by.

Its not about any ONE person. Its about everyone who's been screwed. And a lot of people have been screwed.



So you're assuming all unemployed people support them? Pretty big leap of faith don't you think?

I know several unemployed people that don't support them at all - in fact they laugh at them and wish they had the luxury of being able to "protest" in the park instead of looking for a damn job.



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