Study: growing up in bad neighborhoods has a devastating impact

It's probably true for many reasons.

But why are Americans so poor, are they really American?

Because all I see these days on TV are your illegal mexicans saying how poor they are get into gangs yet they should not even be in America.

If America took all the illegals out they might be able to help their own out, but instead they put mexican flags on buildings, demand mexico day while persecuting those with American flags.

The next bizzar thing is this, that saying 'bless you' or saying 'Jesus' aloud gets you into trouble but kids are given homework else where about why it is ok to wear Islamic veils.

You guys over there and no doubt here in the UK need to wake up, because when the big old A-C turns up on the scene he is going to gather an army against you, he will equipt them spiritually, they will be poor and be given riches and they would do anything to betray you and Christ's people in the process.

Originally posted by illuminatislave


This is not about excuses you buffoon, it is about the systemic reasons as to why you have this problem in the first place.

I'm sorry, but you don't have a clue, and I'm not wasting anymore of my time trying to educate you.

I suggest you get out of your computer chair, go to the poorest neighborhood in your area, and let them all know that you're there to help. After you've done so, let us know how it went.

it s pretty obvious if property taxes pay for a communities education/police/fire department than the wealthiest communities which tend to have the least crime,the more educated parents,and the most modern constuction/ fire saftey standards as well as less fires will have the most money to spend on crime prevention, fire fighting/rescue and education.

shouldnt we atleast spend the same amount per child in compton as we do in beverly hills. not communism but as a goal try to give all children the best/most efficient education that we the most powerfull country on the planet can provide? imo equality is a constitutional right. again equality not socialism/communism.

reply to post by citizen3273676
That's a solution which has already been tried (Separate But Equal). You can spend all the taxpayer money you like in these poorer neighborhoods, but until the attitudes change, absolutely nothing else will. You must first value an education, you must see a job as something more than just work, and you have to want to make a better life for yourself and your family. It's like freedom.. If you just give it to someone they'll value it a lot less than if they actually earned it themself.

I remember the television show Good Times when it was on. That show centered around a black family living in the projects in Chicago. At the beginning of the show the character of JJ was supposed to be a gang member that sold drugs. The two lead actors John Amos and Esther Rolle protested this action by the writers and almost quit the show. The writers had to change that direction.

Throughout the show series Amos and Rolle both had input and were determined that Good Times would not fall into the stereotypical image of life in the ghetto. The episodes dealt with drug use, of which none of the Evans children partook in, and sex among children of the ghetto, again none of the Evans children were involved in. The show presented a strong male father figure who worked and an equally strong mother figure who took an interest in the lives of her children.

Good Times was a show about the social issues of blacks in the ghettos whereas the Cosby Show was based solely in the life of a particular family. These shows are both part of American pop culture and many of us grew up with them.

reply to post by Maxmars


Birds of a feather, will flock together.

Originally posted by The time lord
It's probably true for many reasons.

But why are Americans so poor, are they really American?

Because all I see these days on TV are your illegal mexicans saying how poor they are get into gangs yet they should not even be in America.

If America took all the illegals out they might be able to help their own out, but instead they put mexican flags on buildings, demand mexico day while persecuting those with American flags.

The next bizzar thing is this, that saying 'bless you' or saying 'Jesus' aloud gets you into trouble but kids are given homework else where about why it is ok to wear Islamic veils.

You guys over there and no doubt here in the UK need to wake up, because when the big old A-C turns up on the scene he is going to gather an army against you, he will equipt them spiritually, they will be poor and be given riches and they would do anything to betray you and Christ's people in the process.

What the # are you TALKING about??
2nd line.

Originally posted by Maxmars

www.physorg.com...

Growing up in a poor neighborhood significantly reduces the chances that a child will graduate from high school, according to a study published in the October issue of the American Sociological Review. And, the longer a child lives in that kind of neighborhood, the more harmful the impact.

(visit the link for the full news article)

edit on 4-10-2011 by Maxmars because: (no reason given)

BS study! I grew up in a bad black neighborhood...graduated high school, college, an internship at the CDC. Granted, I was raised by my black grandmother born 1907. The neighborhood wasn't always bad...but it was bad when I grew up there. My grandmother moved into this neighborhood in the 1930's and our family was very well respected. Thank goodness they have since restored this historic district.

I encountered things such as:

1. Witnessed a death (not murder) (epileptic seizures)
2. Saw hypodermic needles laying in the ally behind our house
3. Gangs moved in
4. Willie the Whino who like Wild Irsh Rose Wine
5. Witnessed a homeless man who froze to death
6. Dog Fights
7. Helped catch and convict a child molester when I was 8 years old

That was just a start. I am mixed, so that made growing up in this neighborhood even harder for me as I was always getting "tested" and had to fight constantly for at least a year.

I still suceeded...because I came from a strong background. As one speaking from "experience" and not some lame socialized reports, success lies in who and how you are raised...not where

I appreciate the info you're giving out, but maybe you should ask some people that actually grew up in poverty/bad neighborhoods and ask them how they found success.

Do we really need a study to show us this? Really? Doesn't this fall under the category of "no s#, Sherlock"? Growing up in a war zone can have a devastating impact to? Anyone need a study to believe that? Growing up with a drug abusing mom, and a father in prison can also be a devastating impact.

But hey, let's all forget about common sense, and continue paying for these meaningless studies. Money well spent!

Originally posted by MysticPearl
Do we really need a study to show us this? Really? Doesn't this fall under the category of "no s#, Sherlock"? Growing up in a war zone can have a devastating impact to? Anyone need a study to believe that? Growing up with a drug abusing mom, and a father in prison can also be a devastating impact.

But hey, let's all forget about common sense, and continue paying for these meaningless studies. Money well spent!

Half a High Five to you Although growing up in a "bad" neighborhood isn't an automatic death sentence so to speak...just speaking from experience.

As you stated you can have crappy parents and turn out to be a complete fool. Maybe you have good parents and still manage to turn out to be a bumbling idiot...just look at George Bush, Jr. ...sorry, I couldn't help myself!

Life starts with your family, regardless of where you are

Originally posted by dragonseeker

Originally posted by The time lord
It's probably true for many reasons.

But why are Americans so poor, are they really American?

Because all I see these days on TV are your illegal mexicans saying how poor they are get into gangs yet they should not even be in America.

If America took all the illegals out they might be able to help their own out, but instead they put mexican flags on buildings, demand mexico day while persecuting those with American flags.

The next bizzar thing is this, that saying 'bless you' or saying 'Jesus' aloud gets you into trouble but kids are given homework else where about why it is ok to wear Islamic veils.

You guys over there and no doubt here in the UK need to wake up, because when the big old A-C turns up on the scene he is going to gather an army against you, he will equipt them spiritually, they will be poor and be given riches and they would do anything to betray you and Christ's people in the process.

What the # are you TALKING about??

2nd line.

I'm not laughing at you...I'm laughing because that's the same thought I had. I was lke

reply to post by WarminIndy


Are you from Indianapolis? That's where I grew up. Once upon a time my neighborhood was horrible.

We've been throwing money at education for economically deprived areas for decades (public schools, anyways).

Give the parents the money to send their child to the school of their choice. Get the child out of the failing school.

But we all know the teacher's unions get apoplectic whenever that is brought up.

@op

This is only true because of the violence that is rampate in these bad neighborhoods. If you're having shoot outs and gang members kill eachother, then don't expect to see your graduation rates rise. Work on your social plan first.

Originally posted by Evanzsayz
reply to post by Maxmars

 

Birds of a feather, will flock together.

Not always true.

second line

Originally posted by ThePublicEnemyNo1
reply to post by WarminIndy

 

Are you from Indianapolis? That's where I grew up. Once upon a time my neighborhood was horrible.

No, I live near there now. I grew up in Ohio. My username is a play on words. One of my favorite shows is Hot in Cleveland. I said I might not be hot in Cleveland, but I am warm in Indy....

Originally posted by ThePublicEnemyNo1

Originally posted by MysticPearl
Do we really need a study to show us this? Really? Doesn't this fall under the category of "no s#, Sherlock"? Growing up in a war zone can have a devastating impact to? Anyone need a study to believe that? Growing up with a drug abusing mom, and a father in prison can also be a devastating impact.

But hey, let's all forget about common sense, and continue paying for these meaningless studies. Money well spent!

Half a High Five to you

Although growing up in a "bad" neighborhood isn't an automatic death sentence so to speak...just speaking from experience.

As you stated you can have crappy parents and turn out to be a complete fool. Maybe you have good parents and still manage to turn out to be a bumbling idiot...just look at George Bush, Jr.

...sorry, I couldn't help myself!

Life starts with your family, regardless of where you are

If I could give you more than one star I would. This is exactly what some of us have been saying all morning. One of my favorite movies is Lean on Me. Joe Clark, the principal of East Side High School in Paterson New Jersey said one of the most profound things...have some self-respect, it begins in how you dress. He said to the students in the cafeteria one morning finding a young man wearing baggy clothes "When you get dressed in the morning and you look in the mirror and you look like this slovenly, sloppy kid, find something else to wear. Self-respect begins with you."

Originally posted by Redwing48

Originally posted by illuminatislave


This is not about excuses you buffoon, it is about the systemic reasons as to why you have this problem in the first place.

I'm sorry, but you don't have a clue, and I'm not wasting anymore of my time trying to educate you.

I suggest you get out of your computer chair, go to the poorest neighborhood in your area, and let them all know that you're there to help. After you've done so, let us know how it went.

I have spent many years working with inner city children, and I speak from first hand experience. How about you get out of your chair, put your bottle of lotion away, and actually lend a hand instead of passing judgement on these people? But you wouldn't do that, it's far easier to rant about online about how horrible the poor is instead of trying to help your fellow man no matter what social class they exist in.

I have been educated by a great mother, wonderful teachers, awesome professors, etc....I do not need some backwoods reprobate who is utterly clueless to try and educate me on how uneducated and ignorant he is to the world around him

Originally posted by illuminatislave

I have spent many years working with inner city children, and I speak from first hand experience. How about you get out of your chair, put your bottle of lotion away, and actually lend a hand instead of passing judgement on these people? But you wouldn't do that, it's far easier to rant about online about how horrible the poor is instead of trying to help your fellow man no matter what social class they exist in.

I have been educated by a great mother, wonderful teachers, awesome professors, etc....I do not need some backwoods reprobate who is utterly clueless to try and educate me on how uneducated and ignorant he is to the world around him

Spoken like a true neer do well. So, you've made a few excursions into the city to help the poor and downtrodden. Did it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside? Somebody should put you up for Sainthood.

I assume you don't live amongst them however, since you refer to them as inner city children. I wonder why that is? Just think of all the good you could do onsite!

Personally, I'd ask for a partial refund on my education. Your grammar is terrible!