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Understanding of Infinity

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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 04:55 PM
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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 05:22 PM
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To say something is infinite, you would have to assume the universe is infinite.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by GDR3k
To say something is infinite, you would have to assume the universe is infinite.


Not necessarily.. Think about multiverse theory.

What if the universe was finite but there was an infinite amount of them?




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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 05:49 PM
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I'm thinking that there needs to be another way to qualify infinities, so you can more easily functionalize them. For instance. If you take an infinite line and put a point in it:



you've just made yourself two more infinities on either side of the point. So how many infinities are there total? Well, you have the two infinities on either side of the point (which always means the point will always be at the exact center of the line), along with the infinity of points both on the line and outside the line, which are equal -- except that the line divides the background area up into two equal infinities also.

So how many infinities are we talking about in the above? Five? Six? And they're all equal? And what happens when we add another point to the line? Every point added creates another pair of infinities, and there is an infinite number of points on the line. So a line is really an infinity^2? One always equals two?

There must be a better way to qualify them that makes sense so we're not so easily buried in infinities.

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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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Easy to understand....

Infinity can be displayed as a Square with an "X" in it...



As though looking down a "Square" tunnel.


Everything comes out of what appears to be nothing, but instead is Non-Dimensional. (Having No Size or Shape.)



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 06:04 PM
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Its a good question but for a start there is no middle to infinity


If you watch the video above you will see that Cantor worked out how to include infinity in calculations to make things more easy.


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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by faivious
Hmm true.. infinity does only exist for the sole purpose of a description, like in mathematics.


Then what is the mechanism to limit the division process of time or space? What is that mechanism to limite the expanse kinetics process of either time or space? Infinity most certainly exists in more than conceptual mathematics.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by PhoenixOD
Its a good question but for a start there is no middle to infinity


I would say that's more of a philosophy or an opinion than an established fact. I am of the opinion that there are an infinite number of middles in any linear infinity, just as there are an infinite number of centers in any spatial infinity. For instance, in this infinite universe, I am at the center. And so are you.



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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 06:22 PM
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lol i like what your saying.


But by definition the middle is the central point dividing a finite value. Or the point equally distant from the outer limits. There can be no middle in a number without limits.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 12:21 AM
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A middle to two infinite points, hm.
I can see that.
But logically speaking, it's only visible in the abstract aspect of our mind.
Won't ever touch reality



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 12:30 AM
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This is the kind of question you cant really answer. A hypothetical question.

Just like: Would you see your'self in a mirror if you traveled at the speed of light?

If there is something you'r brain cant imagine, that means everything you can imagine have already been, will be or is.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 12:27 PM
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yes ,a s long as you and the mirror are traveling at the speed of light, if you are traveling at the speed of light, then no you would not see your self,or if the mirror is traveling at the speed of light.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by FejkNick
This is the kind of question you cant really answer. A hypothetical question.

Just like: Would you see your'self in a mirror if you traveled at the speed of light?

If there is something you'r brain cant imagine, that means everything you can imagine have already been, will be or is.


Its an impossible question.

For light to reach our eyes after reflecting off the mirror traveling at the speed of light it would have to be going faster than the speed of light itself which is not possible. So in the end Einstein worked out that nothing with mass can travel that fast because at the speed of light our mass increases to an infinite size which would take an infinite amount of energy to get us to that speed which cant be done. So the observer or the mirror could never go that fast.

So the answer is not yes or no and this way none of the laws of physics get broken



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posted on Oct, 8 2011 @ 02:31 AM
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Maybe infinity is space itself. The original "Zero Point"



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