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Understanding of Infinity

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posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 09:33 PM
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Well it's a stupid question hah, I understand the meaning of infinity and how it isn't a definite number, but..

Just say that I waved a magic wand and all of time reset.
Waved it again, and everything started from 0 seconds.

But what I'm wondering is how you get from 0 to 1 second when there are an infinite amount of 0's you can add.

0.000000001 , 0.000000000000000000001, etc.

Of course it can happen, it happens as we move around, from point A(0m) to point B(1m) do we not?

Just wondering hah, brain boggling stuff




posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 09:35 PM
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Great question, I don't have an answer but ill idle this thread until someone does



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 09:43 PM
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hah thanks for your interest, I would really like a bright answer from someone hah
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posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 09:47 PM
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I believe that it is a flawed logic, we should not use imaginary things to measure another imaginary thing. When things move they do not move through numbers though we like to assign numbers to better understand them, since numbers do not exist and are just a made up tool to better understand the universe they will cause a lot of confusion. Another thing is that you cannot prove anything to be truly infinite so does infinity exist?. But then again that is my opinion and i don't have a degree on any of those fields.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 09:56 PM
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Hmm true.. infinity does only exist for the sole purpose of a description, like in mathematics.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 09:59 PM
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I recently read a great explanation of infinity. It was a religious book, which was trying to say that it is impossible to understand an infinite God without understanding infinity. I think he struck the nail on the head though with your question. I'm not gonna quote the book, but let me show you one thing and you decide...

If you are on a road that stretches forward infinitely, and backwards (behind you infinitely), you will always be at center of that infinite line. Motion is irrelevant. If you were on a road that moves forward in time infinitely, and backwards infinitely, you will always be at the center of infinite time as well.

Perhaps this is not as convincing as he made it in his book, but he included a lot more detail, including infinite departure angles and everything you can think of. You will always be at the center, regardless.

That's the only answer I have, I'm waiting for more with you guys... this is interesting!



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 10:44 PM
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Also, how can you move from one location to another if by moving, for an infinitly small amount of time you have to occupy two locations at once,no matter how infinitely close together they are?



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 10:48 PM
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That's definitely over my head! But I do believe these exercises in thought open the mind to "infinite" possibilities...



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 11:22 PM
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I think some of you are making the mistake in assuming that time is a real thing. I think time, or rather the appearance of the passage of time is the way that our conciousness can experience this reality. If we had the ability to experience all of time, things like motion or the passage of time are irrelevant. Using measurement to make sense of something when we have a flawed understanding of it to begin with results in scenarios that make no sense.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 12:18 AM
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Congrats, you've discovered one of Zeno's paradoxes! I mean the congrats honestly, btw.

Achilles and the tortoise.

Namaste!



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 12:35 AM
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Heh, got me thinking about the idea of a paradox (i think its the right term).

The idea that everything that has ever existed, everything that currently exists, and everything that will ever exist... is happening all at the same moment.

In short, time doesn't go in a line, according to that theory.

You could say time is like an album of photos with every possible outcome inside... when you add an infinite number to each "frame" of time you effectively get infinite outcomes. However everything is happening at once, we just perceive time as a pathway that goes from point A - B.

If time doesn't go from point A - B. Then you are always at 0.

Hope that didn't give you a headache, but its logical in a fun way.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:05 AM
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Apparently Chuck Norris counted to infinity 5 times, maybe you should ask him?



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:26 AM
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draw a circle where did you start from where did you end , with out marking the line of the circle, now can you touch 2 sides at once? and where in the circle is half way? can you make 8 from 0? answer this then you will know the secret to all that is to be known.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:32 AM
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time is a perceived moment of movement tic tic tic say that is one sec ticticitctic 1/100 of sec and tic tic tic is one min, now can all they be at once? or must they be at separate times? or do they even exist?



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:39 AM
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Zero and infinity are both very abstract ideas. Infinity would be a number that climbs much faster than it can be counted, forever.

Zero is just weird and creeps me out.
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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 03:14 AM
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Time is finite. A second is a unit of measure. No matter how many zeros you add to a fraction of a second, it will always just be a mathematical fraction. And no matter how many zeros are there, it will pass too quickly to be humanly perceptible.

All because you can have an infinite number of zeros followed by a 1, which means you will also have an infinte number of zeros followed by a 2. And so on.

But this is only because we don't have a complete understanding of time on a mathematical scale. There are limitations to all things.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 04:07 AM
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Has been echoed by earlier posts, but Time is a logical construct. As a group of people, we agree on a set of benchmarks that everyone uses. A universal standard is very useful for coordination.

As a derivative of your mind, it does not exist outside of your mind. Even though it is an extension of your mind, does that measuring make it exist? Subjectively. It exists to you.

By adding an increasing number of 0s in front of a 1, you are not changing time. You are changing the parameters of your measurement.

int Time = x;
int x = this is where you decide how many 0 are in front of the 1. If you change the precision add another 0, you are changing the value of x, not the attributes of Time. As the variable is undefined, you determine how many 0s there are. If you did not exist, or you did not care, there would be no value for time, and the concept would not exist as it would be undefined.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 04:25 AM
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It's possible that space-time has a lower limit of measurement. A smallest unit of length and time. Possibly smaller than the Planck Length.

Time is merely the progression of a nearly uncountable but not infinite interactions of space time and matter at that scale create the apparent forward only progression of time...

Or so it's been said...

I say apparent forward progression because one of the most unusual things about time and its flow at the quantum level is that it far from apparent or necessarily required to maintain a unidirectional flow. Quantum events are not bound by a forward flow. There seems to be no difference in an event moving in one direction in time and one moving backwards in time. This effect, however, seems to vanish at a certain scale where classical macro mechanics apply.

Anyway, if it is true that space-time is quantized then the notion of an infinite number of steps being required to progress from one "moment" to the next is wiped away.

Though this is not definitive and probably not explained nearly as well as it could be. . .



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 02:53 PM
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Its an age old question that has driven quite a few of the worlds mathematical geniuses like Cantor quite literally insane.

Time is linear while fractions are digital..

There is always an infinite amount of fractions between 2 points.

If you want something to really melt your brain ..did you know there are larger numbers than infinity? Ie. some infinities are larger than others.


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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 03:14 PM
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That does kill my brain hah.



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