George Soros' Sympathy For Wall Street Protesters

reply to post by Blackmarketeer

George Soros: I'm not Funding Occupy Wall Street

From same article:

Soros has donated at least $3.5 million to an organization called the Tides Center in recent years, earmarking the funds for specific purposes. Tides has given grants to Adbusters, an anti-capitalist group in Canada whose inventive marketing campaign sparked the first demonstrations last month.

Vachon said Open Society specified what its donations could be used for. He said they were not general purpose funds to be used at the discretion of Tides -- for example for grants to Adbusters. "Our grants to Tides were for other purposes."

Tides declined to comment.

According to IRS disclosure documents from 2007-2009, the latest data available, Soros' Open Society gave grants of $3.5 million to Tides, a San Francisco-based group that acts like a clearing house for other donors, directing their contributions to liberal non-profit groups. Among others the Tides Center has partnered with are the Ford Foundation and the Gates Foundation.

IRS disclosure documents and reports from Tides also show that Tides gave Adbusters grants of $185,000 from 2001-2010, including nearly $26,000 between 2007-2009.

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George Soros: I'm not (Directly) Funding Occupy Wall Street

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Soros never directly funds anything.

The whole reason Tides was set up is so certain radical moneyed interests could funnel money to left wing causes and still maintain cover.

Soros / Uganda
Business before pleasure the taxpayers throw the party

Soros himself has been closely tied to oil and other interests in Uganda.

In 2008, the Soros-funded Revenue Watch Institute brought together stakeholders from Uganda and other East African countries to discuss critical governance issues, including the formation of what became Uganda's National Oil and Gas Policy.

Also in 2008, the Africa Institute for Energy Governance, a grantee of the Soros-funded Revenue Watch, helped established the Publish What You Pay Coalition of Uganda, or PWYP, which was purportedly launched to coordinate and streamline the efforts of the government in promoting transparency and accountability in the oil sector.

Also, a steering committee was formed for PWYP Uganda to develop an agenda for implementing the oil advocacy initiatives and a constitution to guide PWYP's oil work.

PWYP has since 2006 hosted a number of training workshops in Uganda purportedly to promote contract transparency in Uganda's oil sector.

PWYP is directly funded by Soros' Open Society as well as the Soros-funded Revenue Watch Institute. PWYP international is actually hosted by the Open Society Foundation in London.

The billionaire's Open Society Institute, meanwhile, runs numerous offices in Uganda. It maintains a country manager in Uganda, as well as the Open Society Initiative for East Africa, which supports work in Kenya, Tanzania, and Uganda.

Obama's Uganda Gambit to serve Soros

Soros seems to have his hand in trying to guide the development of the oil and gas industry in Uganda. The Ugandan government would naturally be beholden to Soros if he could show he had enough influence with the White House to bring in American troops to take out a rebel group. Also, the defeat of the rebel group would make development of the energy industry that much more viable since operations would be much more secure.

Soros, through NGO's has manipulated many laws and legislation.

99% of Soros connected legislation DOES NOT impact the majority of Americans in positive ways.

The taxpayers fund the agendas. No deposit No return

The rumor is Soros intercepted a secret memo from Mossad sent to the CIA concerning possibilities that Idi Amin was a long lost uncle of Obama! They are scrambling to get Amin's birth certificate!

reply to post by projectvxn


Organizations that joined the protesters were granted more than $3.6 million from Soros’s Open Society Foundations. On Oct. 5 there was a “march in solidarity with #occupywallstreet” that listed seven such groups out of the 16 overall supporting the protest. Those seven organizations received $3,614,690 from Soros’ Open Society Foundations since the year 2000, with more than $2 million going to Common Cause Education Fund, part of Common Cause, and another $1.1 million to MoveOn.org.

Even the protesters admit the hypocrisy of having billionaire Soros and MoveOn.org “joining forces to voice their ‘support’ for an anti-Wall Street movement” and that it ‘should set alarm bells ringing.” Additional funding went to the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), Community Voices Heard, Coalition for the Homeless, Neighborhood Economic Development Advocacy Project (NEDAP), and 350.org.

Those left-wing organizations were joined by their friends in the progressive media. A publication for the protesters, the “Occupy Wall Street Journal,” is supported by the Independent Media Center which received more than $70,000 from two parts of the Tides organization. This group donates millions of dollars to liberal causes and is partially funded by Soros. Since 2000, Tides received $25,991,845 from his Open Society Foundations. Reuters only noted the $3.5 million from 2007-2009 but failed to mention the long history of funding and the other $20 million.

$3.6 Million from Soros Backs 'Occupy Wall Street', Media Ignore or Downplay Connection

He doesnt need to..........Hes .0000001 percent .

Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by xuenchen

 

Soros never directly funds anything.

The whole reason Tides was set up is so certain radical moneyed interests could funnel money to left wing causes and still maintain cover.

Wheeew! [r-e-l-i-e-f]

good to see that at least some young guys understand these things !

glad you are able to see clearly through all the "transparency"


By the way, I hope the Army understands they have someone who can think !

Good Luck in the service !

reply to post by xuenchen


Wait Hold The Presses!

Soros funded the current potus the current potus put's boots on the ground in Uganda and he's indirectly funding OWS.

That man is pure evil.

reply to post by xuenchen


I've been on the trail of Soros and the progressive movement a very long time my friend.

I don't like progressives. They are sinister and damned good liars and their policies have been poisoning American society for 100+ years.

The Black Zone: How the Progressive Movement Created the Modern Ghetto

And far less important but interesting none the less is Soros connection to Michael Chertoff and the TSA:

Don't Wanna Wait in Line At The Airport Security Check Point?(Soros & Chertoff)

Soros is a dangerous man who's sole purpose is to bring the US to it's knees so he and his Fabian Socialist buddies can get the New World Order that is often spoken of and misunderstood here on ATS.

What we are seeing now with the Occupy movement is a direct result of years of planning by the Shadow Party. Remember them? They've been plotting, expanding, organizing and infiltrating since 2002. Now the Big Push is on with them.

The Shadow Party is a George Soros conglomerate. George Soros, a billionaire, has engineered campaign finance reform by pouring tens of millions of dollars -- and getting others to do it too -- into the campaign finance reform movement. What this did was it limited the ability of the political parties to raise money. As soon as the campaign finance laws came into place, they had a loophole -- and naturally they would because Soros was behind this -- for private organizations like MoveOn.org, called 527s, that could collect money.

Soros managed to put together a coalition, which we call the Shadow Party, which accounted for about $300 million in the 2004 Democratic campaign. Actually, it was much more than that. He put together a group that orchestrated media ads, so that meant that his groups, since they were in place before the Democratic nominee was even chosen, were able to shape the message of the John Kerry campaign and, in effect, control the campaign that way.

But through another organization they have, Americans Coming Together, they also put together the ground war. ACT was composed of big government unions, like SEIU and teacher unions. They were able to produce 100,000 campaign workers and huge amounts of money to knock on doors and get out the vote. Because Soros and the group he put together control both the ground war and the air war of Democratic campaigns, that means that every elected Democratic official has got to pay attention to what they say.

Hillary Clinton a founder of this group along with Harold Ickes and Grand Poobah Soros says "America is the greatest obstacle to world justice and stability." His agenda is what he calls "to burst the bubble of American supremacy."

www.pittsburghlive.com...

Horowitz wrote a great book on the subject and looking at it in hindsight is a little chilling when you compare it to all events in our nation since the Shadow Party was first established. It's all coming together and it gives me the creeps. Anyway, the Shadow Party would need its own thread to dig deeper into its now long and ever penetrating root structure.

“The main enemy of the open society, I believe, is no longer the communist but the capitalist threat.”
George Soros
February 1997

Sound Familiar to anyone? How about you Wall Street campers?

Glad to see the OWS movement is growing and forcing politicians to act in order not to lose votes. The majority of people who are well informed about the issue SUPPORT the movment according to Gallup, and that's not surprising.



It doesn't matter who funds it either until people find something that's seriously wrong with the movement...and that doesn't include posting stuff from some fringe elements of the movement. It's pretty clear what they want, and their demands are 100% justified if you bother looking up the numbers behind the demands.

According to Gallup, 68% don't really have a clue about the movement...and to a large extent, that'st he media's fault. What's interesting is that of those claiming to be well informed about the issues, the level of support increases to 52%!! So there's a direct correlation between being well informed and supporting the movement. I guess it depends whether you get your information from hoax "news" services such as Fox, or if you actually spend time analyzing the numbers (widening income gap, wealth distribution from the bottom 99% to the big banks and top 1% for over 25 years now, etc) yourself.

Protesters have demonstrated in and around Wall Street for nearly a month, with the movement spreading and appearing to gain momentum around the U.S. At the same time, Americans are not highly familiar with the movement's activities or its goals. Those who are familiar with the movement tend to be more approving than disapproving of Occupy Wall Street, though with limited public knowledge about it, its supporters represent roughly a quarter of Americans.

LINK

Some of you guys in here are hilarious, ranting about welfare while completely ignoring the FACT that the banks got TRILLIONS in wellfare. But who cares about facts, right?

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Good Post! Please direct me to a source where I can find a clear and consistent message and a clear action plan. I'd love to read it. Funny, how the cartoon sums up all the talking points so clearly. But, they are just talking points. Give me some substance. I know our economy is in shambles and I know who to blame for it. I know unemployment figures are stagnant, GDP figures suck. Above and beyond all of that is our nation's deficit spending problem.

How about some serious tax reform to simplify the process? I like the FAIR Tax because it eliminates the IRS and the endless stream of new tax regulations that are enacted every year.
How about sponsoring legislation to enact strict term Limits (2 terms back to back or split) on Congress?
Vote out the cronies that helped to create this mess and put limits on their political careers in DC thus greatly reducing the influence of any "external influences"
From there, you can hit campaign finance reform, lobbying reform... elimination of redundant Federal agencies and the litany of regulations that do nothing but to give them a job.
Foster a business and innovation friendly domestic economy. etc etc etc
Restore the constitution and all that is inherent to it. It's all been slowly tossed out the window over the years.

I don't won't to hear anyone crying for student loan forgiveness any longer. I worked my ass off to pay off my loans and associated debt from college. I still have some debt from the lean years right after college. Might as well forgive all home mortgage loans too. I'm under water in my mortgage and will be for years to come. So much for home equity and investment. I'm not crying for a bailout though. I'll sit tight and hopefully wait it out. If I'm ever forced to move or relocate, I'm poked and left without a down payment on a new home.

I think we can agree that the bank bailouts were ridiculous as were the bailouts handed to GM and Chrysler. If that money spent was an absolute must it would have been better spent by sending every US citizen a personal check.

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From there, you can hit campaign finance reform, lobbying reform... elimination of redundant Federal agencies and the litany of regulations that do nothing but to give them a job.

Their main message is abundantly clear, they want to limit the amount of influence corporations and a tiny minority (top 1%) have on the political system...THAT'S the main message. You can't whine about wellfare, while being ok with giving TRILLIONS in wellfare to banks and the top 1% (tax breaks!) just because they pay off the politicians. And the "it creates jobs" hogwash is another lie spread by politicians. If you hear a politician say they need to do that to create jobs, vote him out of office!! Since the tax breaks for the rich, and the corporate subsidies, we have actually LOST jobs!!!

As for concrete plans, it's been only a month...do you really expect them to already have concrete plans? There's some ideas floating around, but it's been only recently that people woke up and realize how screwed up the political system is.

Hell, you claim they don't have solutions, and then list some stuff that's DEMONSTRABLY not going to work. Like the abandonment regulations...which is crazy given it's what got us in this mess in the first place. Financial institutions have systematically been deregulated, allowing them to not only defer taxes, but also gamble with the money of investors and deposit holders when they really shouldn't. Calling for less regulation is nuts!! What needs to happen is a complete reform of the political and financial system...something no one seriously considered before the protests.

Think about it: The sock puppet government deregulated the financial industry because that industry paid them off. Once the house of cards inevitably collapsed, they bailed them out with trillions on the backs of taxpayers. In a free market capitalist economy, if a company goes bust, it goes bust. It can't be that the tax payer just hands them a check every time the industry collapses. The bailouts could have worked once, if they had introduced new, better regulation to prevent such a thing in the future...but guess what, Wall Street once again paid off the politicians and the "reform" is an empty shell, a farce. I work in the investment industry, so I know...

The movement helped greatly in waking up the people, but it's a young movement, and there's still 48% that need to be convinced that the system's screwed up. Those 48% are so misinformed (no wonder, the MSM sucks) that they can't even distinguish between right or wrong...they've been brainwashed for years. It's going to take time to rally more people, and even longer to develop sustainable, real solutions. You can't expect that to happen in a month!

I don't expect the protestors to come up with the solutions, what I do expect is that they highlight the issues and force both politicians and regular people to WAKE UP. Only once the majority "sees the light" and realizes the top 1% and Wall Street committed the largest heist in US history, will things improve...mostly because once a majority realizes this, politicians will be forced to act or lose their jobs because of a lack of votes. Even the GOP figured that one out judging from the most recent flip flopping.

If anything, the movement is helping to wake people up...because 3 years into the crisis they seemed happy with the status quo up till now. Not anymore, and that's a GREAT thing. A ton of people spent the entire months sleeping on concrete, and they haven't given up...and all to highlight those serious issues. If anything, people should show respect for that.

Will the situation be fixed? Who knows!? But it's a start, because we can't have people ignore the issue of a widening income gap, and reckless deregulation of the financial industry any longer.

One thing's for sure, protesting the government is useless, they are mere sock puppets and people shouldn't waste their time talking to sock puppets like Perry, Romney, Obama, Bachmann, and all the other clowns. By addressing the very organizations who caused this mess directly, they FORCE the government to act...it's a MUCH better approach. You know the saying "talk to the hand because the face ain't listening"? The face is Wall Street, the hand is the government. I, and a TON of people are sick and tired of talking to that hand. FINALLY people prefer screaming directly into the face instead of wasting the time talking to a hand

I mean, you admit that the bailouts (aka largest wellfare check in history) were beyond insane. But do me a favor, look up who engineered those bailouts! It wasn't Bush, or Obama...it was an ex-Goldman employee!! They essientially wrote the very laws giving them massive billion dollar handouts. So protesting them is 100% justified. And I agree, they should have let those companies go bust, accept the higher unemployment (yes, it would still be higher than now) for 3-5 years, and then rebuild in a sustainable way...sadly, they didn't.

Even worse, the political system focused on trivial stuff for way too long. Abortions (affects a TINY minority only), gay marriage rights, mosques at ground zero, and other nonsense that doesn't affect 99.9% of the population. Those are distractions engineered to distract the people from what's really going on...a massive corporate takeover of the government. And this has to stop, NOW...which incidently is the very main message the protestors convey.

The problem is, that message isn't being relayed properly. Just look at how Fox edited some of their clips (CNN too!) to the point where they find the odd crazy one, and then only show that instead of presenting the main message. Not surprising though, just like politicians, the media are now bought too...

Here's an article that highlights the issues: LINK

And here's a great interview with Nassim Taleb, who's spot on with his analysis: LINK

I mean, who in his right mind would argue it's ok for banks to cash in on MASSIVE bailouts, when at the same time they pay BILLIONS in boni??? Goldman reported a quarter loss of almost half a billion, but during the same time, paid over $1.6b in boni...that's INSANITY, and it has to stop!

reply to post by xuenchen


His contributions to Tides are not going to Adbusters. Stop with this lie.

What do you not understand? Soros is a declared target of this group and nothing else matters, I care not who likes it or don't like it, this is the way it is and that is that.

Quit seriously please with the lame arsed excuses trying to connect a billionaire to #OWS/OE/OT as the global movement wants no help from billionaires. It is getting old and is flat out wrong so stop with spreading intentional disinformation.

This movement has eclipsed The GOP, Dems, Tea Party COMBINED! This is why Russell Simmons who wanted to pledge money but was told no sale.

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by xuenchen

 

His contributions to Tides are not going to Adbusters. Stop with this lie.

What do you not understand? Soros is a declared target of this group and nothing else matters, I care not who likes it or don't like it, this is the way it is and that is that.

Quit seriously please with the lame arsed excuses trying to connect a billionaire to #OWS/OE/OT as the global movement wants no help from billionaires. It is getting old and is flat out wrong so stop with spreading intentional disinformation.

This movement has eclipsed The GOP, Dems, Tea Party COMBINED! This is why Russell Simmons who wanted to pledge money but was told no sale.

Can't help ya there buddy.

I didn't say it, the article authors did

If it hits home so hard, show some info to counter the theories and prove out the "disinformation"

Until then, I say Soros is "arse" deep in the whole deal.

Who is Russell Simmons anyway?

Wait till somebody puts two and two together and thinks OWS looks like the European revolutions in 1848 thru 1852. You're gonna luuv that one

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1


Take this or leave it.

It's probably been poster here somewhere.

If something is not kosher, then let's see it.

There has been much speculation over who is financing the disparate protest, which has spread to cities across America and lasted nearly four weeks. One name that keeps coming up is investor George Soros, who in September debuted in the top 10 list of wealthiest Americans. Conservative critics contend the movement is a Trojan horse for a secret Soros agenda.

Soros and the protesters deny any connection. [color=;imegreen]But Reuters did find indirect financial links between Soros and Adbusters, an anti-capitalist group in Canada which started the protests with an inventive marketing campaign aimed at sparking an Arab Spring type uprising against Wall Street. Moreover, Soros and the protesters share some ideological ground.

Reuters Finds Connection Between Soros And Occupy Wallstreet Protests: Tides Foundation Funds Adbusters Occupy Movement

The article also says OWS has taken money from Michael Moore ......

reply to post by xuenchen


You might wanna do some proper research before posting nonsense

You know what's even funnier?

The fact that the conservative blog you posted doesn't match what Reuters said...on the contrary, they claim there's no connection: LINK

Those damn facts, always getting in the way of pre-conceived notions about things...damn annoying, right?

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by xuenchen

 

You might wanna do some proper research before posting nonsense

You know what's even funnier?

The fact that the conservative blog you posted doesn't match what Reuters said...on the contrary, they claim there's no connection: LINK

Those damn facts, always getting in the way of pre-conceived notions about things...damn annoying, right?

edit on 19-10-2011 by MrXYZ because: (no reason given)

could be right, but i'm reading this from the Reuters article.

According to disclosure documents from 2007-2009, Soros’ Open Society gave grants of $3.5 million to the Tides Center, a San Francisco-based group that acts almost like a clearing house for other donors, directing their contributions to liberal non-profit groups. Among others the Tides Center has partnered with are the Ford Foundation and the Gates Foundation.

Disclosure documents also show Tides, which declined comment, gave Adbusters grants of $185,000 from 2001-2010, including nearly $26,000 between 2007-2009.

reply to post by xuenchen


...and in the process of reading the article you're conveniently leaving this part out:

If somehow some Soros money did make it to Adbusters between 2007 and 2009 — despite Adbusters co-founder Kalle Lasn’s clear statement that “he’s never given us a penny” — then that’s still a good two years away from any connection to OWS.

So you're accusing Soros of being able to look into the future, funding a movement that didn't exist for at least 2 years after Adbusters received a whooping $185k from Tides. Even worse, the head of Adbusters says no money has been received...and she really has no reason to hide where the money comes from given that they're pretty open about their goals. That's your "link"? Really?

In that case, you have to accuse me of funding both Obama AND Bush because Barclays donated my money (I'm an account holder) to both of them.

Ridiculous!!

In the end, none of this invalidates the good reason the protestors have to be against the corporate infiltration of the government...so I'm not sure what your point is...

Here is info from the Tides website.

They have pdf lists of "grantees" year by year.

Adbusters is on the lists.

Adbusters got money from Tides.


Grantees

Grantee List 2010pdf

Originally posted by xuenchen
Here is info from the Tides website.

They have pdf lists of "grantees" year by year.

Adbusters is on the lists.

Adbusters got money from Tides.


Grantees

Grantee List 2010pdf

Yes, and that was a full 2 years (!!!) before the OWS movement came into existence...and it was less than $130k

So claiming he's one of the main donors is beyond ridiculous...which isn't surprising given it's fools like Rush Limbaugh who spread that nonsense

Timetravel much?

reply to post by MrXYZ


OK,

call it my opinion only.

Soros = OWS supporter.

I never said OWS or the issues was a problem.

The backdoor financing IS as are some "supporters".

Take a nerve pill, calm down.