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Here is who's behind occupy wall street

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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by TinfoilTP

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
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Ok.. but prearranged venues went out the window when the people took over and started their own movements via facebook.


Proven again and again over and over again in thread after thread that Occupy Wallstreet is a highly organized and funded undertaking that was months in the making by shadowy elites who funnel their money through the Tides Foundation to diseminate it to the communist activists doing the dirty work.
And all you can say is the average Joe Schmoe on Facebook did it. Hahahaha
Ignorance is bliss.


Proven!!?? You connect a few loose dots and suddenly that's proof? I though ATSers were skeptical of everything? Soros, who I haven't seen one justifiable argument for why he's evil, doles out money to Tides. He also doles out money to EVERYWHERE.. he's one of the most prolific individual philanthropists in America.
Tides.. gives a grant to adbusters.. which is totally in line with Tide's leanings.
Kalle Lasn, owner of adbusters, puts a little bit of effort (a blog post and a domain registration aren't much for someone who owns a website) into promoting a clever little protest nickname. The protest plans already existed before he even got on board with his suggestion BTW. Even here in Vancouver.. the home of adbusters, #occupyvancouver was set up and has thus far been run with zero input from Kalle Lasn. Hippy kids are behind the Vancouver "chapter." And you call this highly organized and funded? Maybe if you stopped connecting dots that aren't even numbered for the same page and actually got out on the ground you'd realize how absurd this theory is.

Hey, I am all too aware that certain people would likely try and steer this movement for their own gains but what hidden agenda do you really think is going on here. Soros has long opposed communism and even helped dismantle it in Hungary so I doubt you'd be silly enough to suggest a communist regime change is the endgame.

I think some of the players have hopes.. not agendas.. just itty bitty hopes that maybe we'll make some progress in dismantling a failing system. No one even knows a solution to the problems.. I think a good part of the hope is that the discussion that has been sparked will get us closer to some new ideas on just how to transition from a system of greed, corruption, and destruction to something with a bit better long term prospects for humankind.

The people you implicate surely can't actually be stupid enough to think that this will somehow overthrow the entire political system and replace it with their own ideal regime and somehow no one will notice? Or mind?
Being paranoid is expected here.. but at least have some perspective and don't make ridiculous leaps like "PROVEN!"




posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by nenothtu

I'll bet next years wages that Soros is in the mileu somewhere, but won't be pushing himself to the front any time soon. CIA, FBI, and any "Elites" (
) aren't in it. They have nothing to gain and a lot to lose. They'd be idiots to be pursuing this agenda against their own interests. "Problem-reaction-solution" my ass.


Soros has already publicly stated his support of the protestors.
www.ibtimes.com...



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by Rineocerous
I'm starting to think a lot of you don't actually know much about the things you talk about.
Left = democratic votes? Just automatically?
Left = socialism/communism? Again.. automatically?
Tree hugging... wait a min, what the heck is the alternative? Are you advocating we destroy our ecology? What the hell for?

I don't understand this allergy to concepts of happiness and freedom. Why does everything have to filter through the American two-party filter before you can digest it? Here is a shocker.. I'm "liberal" and I don't support Obama. WHOOOOOOAAA!!!!!
I'm also not a commie, not gay, don't want to force you give up your guns, think transsexuals are just confused, don't do yoga, am not a vegetarian.. etc etc...

And you people are hilarious with this whole George Soros thing. Oh my god can we find a nicer guy to hate on?
He's defeated communism, helped blacks, educated children, thinks Wall Street is a sham despite all his fortune, has paid off all investors and only risks his own money, wants to legalize marijuana, donates tons of money to truly inspiring causes.. and just generally wants people to be free and happy.

You're right.. that sounds very dangerous.

I have also watched this play out on the internet with the right wingers blaming George soros . What is it that is so special about soros that he is the fall guy for all these revolutions ?

I dont really know all the american histories but just watch in amazment as the machine goes into action , one side creating divisions very quickly .



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 09:46 PM
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When corporate influence runs the gavel that leaves the people out in the cold.

Just because they are deadset against Wall Street instantly labels them as wrong right? Truth comes out.

Either get with the movement or get out of the way! The Tea Party demanded this of you and like sheep you blindly followed!



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by Rineocerous

Originally posted by nenothtu

I'll bet next years wages that Soros is in the mileu somewhere, but won't be pushing himself to the front any time soon. CIA, FBI, and any "Elites" (
) aren't in it. They have nothing to gain and a lot to lose. They'd be idiots to be pursuing this agenda against their own interests. "Problem-reaction-solution" my ass.


Soros has already publicly stated his support of the protestors.
www.ibtimes.com...


Strangely, I feel somehow vindicated - as if I'm on the right track. To take scientific methodology as a yardstick, one constructs a hypothesis, which make postulates as to the outcome, then tests it. This seems to be the result of one of those things my hypothesis predicts...

Note how he has come out "in support of". I'm willing to bet further that his involvement runs just a bit deeper than mere verbal "support".



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 10:06 PM
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I think what you are seeing on ATS and other forums for conspiracy are alot a babayboomer generation , like myself , yes I admit it . and yes we grew up trusting Mainstream media as that was THE only media .

I dont think it was quite as corrupted as it is today . But i do remember my father who was a MSM journalist always going on about the mindless crap on the comercial stations news broadcast

My dad knew the actual news as he was head of the news dept. anyway Im digressing. The [point you made about how ATSers follow MSM . I think your answer lies there .

Also ..I have observed that alot of my generation may be retired military in the US and maybe old Vietnam vets.
they really got ripped off those guys as they were drafted to fight a war they had no interest . They had their youth stolen from them . So have a little tolerance and compassion for them .

These current Vets were not drafted . they wanted to do what they did out of a very false sense of pride and fear and proberlly a bloodlust that has been brainwashed into the current generation of young adults .

And even they begin to realise they too were ripped off when their government fails them . A great shame .



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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When corporate influence runs the gavel that leaves the people out in the cold.


Huh?



Just because they are deadset against Wall Street instantly labels them as wrong right? Truth comes out.


I didn't say "wrong", I said "misguided" - i.e. aimed in the wrong direction to produce lasting results of a positive nature.



Either get with the movement or get out of the way!


Be seeing ya. You'll know me when you see me - I'll be the guy blocking the way... I drew my first breath fighting collectivist/Statist "Hivers", and it's increasingly looking like I'll draw my last breath in that same fight. So be it. no rest for the weary, and all that...



The Tea Party demanded this of you and like sheep you blindly followed!


Actually, I didn't. You're WRONG. Initially, I thought they might have something there, but stood back to watch and see what it was that they really had. Then the neocons co-opted that movement, and I decided that they didn't have anything worth having. Recently, I've moved to support them, but not join them, since they have come under unfounded attacks from the Hivers.

I'm not a Tea Partier, although I think they have some meritorious ideas, they have been hijacked, and I'm not on board.

Much like the OWS crowds have been/will be hijacked.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 10:16 PM
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Hmmm... Are you are baiting him and why so ??? boy the world of internet conspiracy sites becomes curiouser and curiouser



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 10:25 PM
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OWS will not be hijacked as the Tea got hijacked due to the fact the GOP needed to put something together fast.
edit on 4-10-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 10:27 PM
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OP it's a real stretch to make the claim that Adbusters "owns" OWS, or any of the protests that have been inspired by it. They made a blog post suggesting it, and others have taken it up as a rallying cry. That's a bit like making the claim that 2600 magazine "owns" the hacker movement. OWS started out as a small handful of people camping in a park and didn't look like it was going anywhere. Thankfully other people woke up to it and now it's taking on a life of it's own.

PS: Adbusters sure as hades didn't start the Arab Spring either, whoever made that comment should get a clue.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 10:41 PM
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edit on 4-10-2011 by LadySkadi because: Just a little too slow...




posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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OWS will not be hijacked as the Tea got hijacked due to the fact the GOP needed to put something together fast.
edit on 4-10-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)


I reckon that remains to be seen. Predictions can be an iffy thing. Mind if I quote you on this later?



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
OP it's a real stretch to make the claim that Adbusters "owns" OWS, or any of the protests that have been inspired by it. They made a blog post suggesting it, and others have taken it up as a rallying cry.


It has already been shown that the Adbusters campaign was a PR campaign to promote the occupations, not a means of starting them. The infrastructure was already in place before Adbusters "inspired" it, as if out of the blue...

Let's contemplate that series of events for just a moment, shall we?

Who do you suppose "inspired" Adbusters at just the right time?







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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 10:56 PM
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What I haven't seen anyone point out with this post is the fallacy in it's straw-man argument that these Web sites represent the leadership (if any) of OWS. All they've done is show the whois info of two domains that belong to Adbusters of persons affiliated with them.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 11:00 PM
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Aye, and you don't find that even mildly of interest? When I set up websites, I don't generally do it at random and out of the blue - I usually am following a preconcieved plan.

Maybe I'll set up a site tomorrow for the "Worship guardrails NOW!" movement. maybe some time after that, no telling how long, someone, somewhere, completely random and unconnected to me, will hit on the same Idea. That will be cool. If they do, the website will already be there, in place, ready to go!






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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 11:14 PM
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It all depends on how things go, there is no indication now that they will be taken over. Hopefully this remains solid. As long as they do not sell out they will not be, but given the climate they want nothing to do with the 2 party oligarchy.

Start a site that bridges the Tea Party with OWS and call it, "American's United As One For America".
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posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 12:14 AM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave

Originally posted by anglodemonicmatrix
Im with Glenn Beck,this is George Soros at play,problem-reaction-solution create a crisis that will have people demand martial law and suspend elections and install Caeser.


If you're with Glenn Beck, I suggest you seek psychiatric help immediately
Ohhhhh tytytytyty! Had to be the best belly laugh I've had in a while.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 03:16 AM
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Originally posted by stereotype
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occupywallstreet.org ; domain registered Jun 9, 2011

occupytogether.org ; domain registered Sept 23, 2011
occupywallst.org ; domain registered July 14, 2011


anyone remembers "usdayofrage"? mesa thinks those are the same people.
is google also involved in this revolution like it was with the egyptian or
is it just twatter this tiem around?



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 03:42 AM
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Originally posted by Rineocerous

Originally posted by nenothtu

I'll bet next years wages that Soros is in the mileu somewhere, but won't be pushing himself to the front any time soon. CIA, FBI, and any "Elites" (
) aren't in it. They have nothing to gain and a lot to lose. They'd be idiots to be pursuing this agenda against their own interests. "Problem-reaction-solution" my ass.


Soros has already publicly stated his support of the protestors.
www.ibtimes.com...


Of course he did, he's a globalist and this is a globalist movement paid for by globalists to bring about globalism.
The movers and shakers have decided Capitalism is the major roadblock to their dreams and socialism is the vehicle to bring it in with. Not too hard to grasp. They do make public statements from time to time when caught up in their own euphoria.

The street sheeple can pretend it's a hippyfest grassroots revolution that's gonna do payback to the evil rich man all they like, they're really just showing up to the rich mans house to do work for him.


Globalist George Soros: “America Should Be Replaced By a World Government With a Global Currency Under UN Rule”



“Reorganizing the world order will need to extend beyond the financial system“. Soros wrote in his opinion piece.


source

From the horses mouth, one that nobody ever elected by the way.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 03:47 AM
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Okay...so what? I could care less who started this movement. Hell I have no problem with their beliefs for that matter. This thread prooves nothing and means nothing. Reality is that there IS a movement. I don't care if Lenin himself rose from the grave and started it. Our economy has always traditionally been healthy balance of capitalism and communism, but frankly the capitalism has been a little too strong for quite too long now.



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