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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by nenothtu

Originally posted by illuminatislave

I don't care if you kiss that dude's ass, or worship whatever he says, if he wants to be pissed off because I called him and the rest of the "omg you're not down with gross inequality or the exploitation of the many by the few? you're a COMMIE!!" jackasses ignorant, that's his own problem.

I could give a damn how long you've been registered here. Shove it.


Who pissed in your Cheerios this morning?

Have you got anything constructive or intelligent to say, or is this just a rant day for you?

Instead of just blanket-pronouncing people as "ignorant", "jackasses", "ass clowns", "ass"kissers" etc., and telling folks to "shove it", how about at least making an attempt to articulate some sort of coherent rationale as to WHY you think thee things?

Or would that just be too difficult? Take too much thinking or something?



It's funny how you take me to task for blanket pronouncing people, but you say nothing about the folks who run around calling people commies. How about the people who are offended by me calling them ignorant attempt to articulate some sort of coherent rationale as to why they think these things, instead of regurgitating a bunch of Fox News talking points? Oh, you're probably one of them too, so I understand why you would remain silent about that.

I don't care if you or any of the old cold war marks who keep pulling this stunt don't like it, but trying to label everyone who disagrees with them as a communist is bloody ignorant and reeks of divisive rhetoric, and I will respond in kind to anyone that dares to approach me with that nonsense. Deal with it



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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 07:13 AM
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Originally posted by seenavv

Originally posted by nenothtu


Neither are the worker bees privy to the plans of the queen from whence comes their orders....


so what are the plans then ? again pure speculation...


I've already posted the plans several times. I'll gather up all those posts, edit them together, and make one great big detailed post of the grand plan later today or this evening. Be watching for it, or I can U2U a link to the post to you if you would prefer, to make sure you don't miss it. No, it's not "speculation", it's historical fact and guerrilla warfare 101. This is an area in which I have more than a passing knowledge. All these Che T-shirts I saw everyone sporting not so long ago, and no one actually READ what the man wrote? If they had, they could see this a mile away. Add in "Mao: On Guerrilla Warfare" and it's a cinch to spot. I happen to have edited those volumes into PDF files, if your interested. A working knowledge of Sun Tzu would help as well.



how do you know the queen is going to give orders?


Not "going to" - has ALREADY given. This has been in the works for some time, quite a while before it even went public as an "idea". Groundwork for action was already laid before the "idea" was put forth.



Just because we are human does not mean we always behave like animals with conditional behavior you know ?


You go ahead and stick with your philosophy. I'll take history for 200, Alex.

Humans ARE animals, and a herd of them can be stampeded like any other herd of animals. All it takes it the right loud noise.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave

It's funny how you take me to task for blanket pronouncing people, but you say nothing about the folks who run around calling people commies.


If it's funny, why aren't you laughing? Who's been "running around calling people commies"? If there is no truth in that statement, why are you getting so upset? Methinks thou dost protest too much. What is that thing the christians say? Ah, yes: "the wicked flee when no man pursueth".

"Commies" is far too narrow a view. It's all inclusive, in a politically correct sort of way one should refer to them as "collectivists". Commies are but one splinter group of that grand, august body. It takes in much more turf than just mere "commies".



How about the people who are offended by me calling them ignorant attempt to articulate some sort of coherent rationale as to why they think these things,


If they did, would you be able to even read it through you blind rage? I think not, for they already have, and your only response has been impotent name-calling. Perhaps that's the only way you CAN respond and can't seem to refute what has already been brought to light. That's the theory I'm working with at the moment, any how. prove me wrong... if you can, that is.



instead of regurgitating a bunch of Fox News talking points?


What does Fox News have to do with any of this? When was the last time you heard the word "commies" on Fox News? I'm asking honestly, because I don't know. I don't consume the stuff - it's bad for the thinker.



Oh, you're probably one of them too, so I understand why you would remain silent about that.


It's oh so nice to be able to set people up ahead of time in your own mind to be ignored or belittled. Unfortunately, you are wrong this time. You can still pre-judge me to suit your own agenda, but I'm anything BUT "silent". You'll find that out as we go along, I'm afraid.



I don't care if you or any of the old cold war marks who keep pulling this stunt don't like it, but trying to label everyone who disagrees with them as a communist is bloody ignorant and reeks of divisive rhetoric


Was there any real meaning anywhere in that rant? If so, what was it, and can you translate it into English?



, and I will respond in kind to anyone that dares to approach me with that nonsense.


No, you won't. You are incapable of an in-kind response. You are only capable of emotion-laden rants.



Deal with it



I want you to think about that a minute, and make absolutely sure that's what you want. Don't run away crying like a bitch when I do if that's really what you want. It would be nice if you could discuss the matter rationally, but ranting, whining and crying can all be dealt with as well, and much, much more easily than rational discussion.

Choose.






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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by aching_knuckles
Anonymous has no leader, and no one is behind it, except everyone.


Great idea in theory but who makes the videos that so many people follow and carry out instructions from?



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 08:45 AM
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I'm sure if you dig deeper, you'll find george soros' fingers in this too.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 08:59 AM
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Originally posted by nenothtu

Originally posted by seenavv

Originally posted by nenothtu


Neither are the worker bees privy to the plans of the queen from whence comes their orders....


so what are the plans then ? again pure speculation...


I've already posted the plans several times. I'll gather up all those posts, edit them together, and make one great big detailed post of the grand plan later today or this evening. Be watching for it, or I can U2U a link to the post to you if you would prefer, to make sure you don't miss it. No, it's not "speculation", it's historical fact and guerrilla warfare 101. This is an area in which I have more than a passing knowledge. All these Che T-shirts I saw everyone sporting not so long ago, and no one actually READ what the man wrote? If they had, they could see this a mile away. Add in "Mao: On Guerrilla Warfare" and it's a cinch to spot. I happen to have edited those volumes into PDF files, if your interested. A working knowledge of Sun Tzu would help as well.



how do you know the queen is going to give orders?


Not "going to" - has ALREADY given. This has been in the works for some time, quite a while before it even went public as an "idea". Groundwork for action was already laid before the "idea" was put forth.



Just because we are human does not mean we always behave like animals with conditional behavior you know ?


You go ahead and stick with your philosophy. I'll take history for 200, Alex.

Humans ARE animals, and a herd of them can be stampeded like any other herd of animals. All it takes it the right loud noise.



Well until you post the plans you believe will take place and i get a chance to read and analyze them i think we will remain in disagreement. And i do not take my philosophy in a literal sense, regardless ..its clearly a subject you have no interest or belief in but rather "if it has have has happend before it will happen again everytime under any circumstance"



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 09:23 AM
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I don´t have a problem with those people. Anyone who says that wars are a lie are just plain right!!!



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by seenavv

Well until you post the plans you believe will take place and i get a chance to read and analyze them i think we will remain in disagreement. And i do not take my philosophy in a literal sense, regardless ..its clearly a subject you have no interest or belief in but rather "if it has have has happend before it will happen again everytime under any circumstance"


It's quite likely that we will remain in disagreement even after I post it, but it will be an honest disagreement


I'm not sure how you get "if it has happened before it will again, every time under any circumstance". I didn't say that anywhere, and very specifically indicated that nothing is set in stone, and that I am no kind of seer. With that said, I believe it is designed to happen. Everything so far has followed the pattern, and if the pattern holds true, then we're in for a wild ride. The main variable is in just how worked up they can get the mob before attempting to stampeded it.

In 1917 Russia, they got it worked up to a fever pitch. So far, in the US all attempts have met with a great deal less success. It probably hinges on that single variable for the most part. There does seem to be a lot more concerted effort this time, and the "mid-level managers" for the organizers are showing their faces earlier than I would have expected.

I worked 15 hours or so overnight, so I need my beauty sleep - I'm getting uglier by the minute. I'll get it put together and posted later this evening after I wake up.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 09:29 AM
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so if its communism that wants us to # up the system then they can march in .. but if we do nothing then we get marched on anyway



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 09:50 AM
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As I said before, these are nothing but naive college students being fired up by the usual bunch of Marxist agitators. Their left wing professors probably promised extra points on their next test, or a higher letter grade at the end of the semester if they protested. Next up they will try and get the labor unions to get involved, like what the Soviets did with the factory workers militias in Russia in 1917.

If your a Marxist then fine, but if you want change then try and bring it about via the ballot box - that's the American way. We don't rile up angry mobs and destroy buildings to get our way. We vote at the ballot box.
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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by AnonymousVan Registered: 2-8-2011
fooling people and deception is a damn weapon
im alway amused to see ATSers throwing the alphabet soup around, thinking they found our identities.






Originally posted by AnonymousVan Registered: 2-8-2011
Im an Anonymous Operative





Originally posted by AnonymousVan Registered: 2-8-2011
And really, you're all seriously ignorants about what Anonymous is. keep being paranoids, i know you all need your conspiracy fix





No offense but from where I stand, here on ATS that's no better than saying you're the Easter Bunny or Santa Claus. All adults know how those fairy tails end up....



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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 10:33 AM
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If you want to know what really inspires this movement I can show you one piece of the puzzle here:



It is not them it is us



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 10:43 AM
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Many individuals involved in the pivotal event, Boston Tea Party, that arguably led to the formation of America were Masons and radical Revolutionary War soldiers and brass.

Does that invalidate the whole thing?

Heres the who’s who according to Researcher Charles Chauncy Wells
www.oldsouthmeetinghouse.org...

ABBREVIATIONS AND NOTES:
o Number following each name is the age at time of Boston Tea Party, when known.
o MCMA – Massachusetts Charitable Mechanics Association – Founded in 1795, this was a group of Boston tradesmen, merchants and craftsmen.
o Mason – belonged to a lodge of Freemasons.
Participants in Boston Tea Party
1. Francis Akeley (Eckley) - only person to be imprisoned for Tea Party.
2. Nathaniel Barber - early revolutionary and soldier, Major Rev Army, Mason, died 1787.
3. Samuel Barnard - Major Rev Army, died 1782.
4. Henry Bass – 34, 1739-1842, (1813?), early revolutionary, buried at Granary Burying Ground, Tomb 184.
5. Joseph Bassett - Capt. Rev Army
6. Edward Bates
7. Adam Beals Jr.
8. Thomas Bolter - 38, 1735-1811, Capt. Rev Army, buried at Central Burying Ground, Tomb 41.
9. David Bradlee - 31, 1742-1811, Capt. Rev Army, Mason (St. Andrew’s Lodge), buried at Central Burying Ground, Tomb 85.
10. Josiah Bradlee - 19, 1754-1798, buried at Central Burying Ground, Tomb 85.
11. Nathaniel Bradlee - 27, 1746-1813, MCMA, buried at Central Burying Ground, Tomb 85. (Tea Party company disguised themselves as Indians at his home.)
12. Thomas Bradlee - 29, MCMA, Mason, died 1805, buried at Central Burying Ground, possibly Tomb 85.
13. James Brewer - Capt. Rev Army, MCMA, Mason, died 1805.
14. John Brown - 27, Capt. Rev Army, entry 1718, died 1782.
15. Seth Ingersoll Browne - 23, 1750-1809, Bunker Hill, buried at Granary Burying Ground, exact location unknown.
16. Stephen Bruce - Mason, died 1801.
17. Benjamin Burton - 24, 1749-1835, Maj. Rev Army.
18. Nicholas Campbell - 41, 1732-1829.
19. George Carleton
20. Thomas Chase – 36, 1737-1787, early revolutionary, Mason (St. Andrew’s Lodge), buried at Granary Burying Ground.
21. Nathaniel Child
22. Benjamin Clark - MCMA, died 1840. (Three sons may have been in Tea Party also.)
23. Jonathan Clark - Sgt. Rev Army.
24. John Cochran - 24, 1749-1839.
25. Gilbert Colesworthy - 29, 1744-1818.
26. Gersham Collier, - Mason, died 1825.
27. Adam Collson - 35, 1738-1798, early revolutionary, Mason.
28. James Foster Condy - died 1809.
29. Daniel Coolidge
30. Joseph Coolidge
31. Samuel Coolidge
32. Samuel Cooper - 18, LT Rev Army, died 1840.
33. William Cox
34. Thomas Crafts - 33, Col. Rev Army, early revolutionary, died 1799.
35. John Crane - 29, Brig. Gen. Rev Army, early revolutionary, Mason, died 1805.
36. Obadiah Curtis
37. Thomas Dana, Jr.
38. Amasa Davis – 28, 1745-1825, Quarter-Master, Rev. Army, buried at Central Burying Ground, Tomb 120.
39. Robert Davis - 26, Maj. Rev Army, early revolutionary, Mason, died 1798, buried at Central Burying Ground, Tomb 120.
40. John DeCarteret
41. David Decker
42. John Dickman
43. Edward Dolbeare - died 1796.
44. Samuel Dolbeare
45. John Dyar, Jr.
46. Joseph Eaton – 23, 1750-1825, hatter, Capt. Rev Army, buried at Granary Burying Ground, Tomb 200.
47. Joseph Eayres
48. Francis Eckley (see Francis Akeley)
49. Benjamin Edes - 41, early revolutionary, died 1803.
50. William Etheridge
51. Samuel Fenno - died 1806.
52. Samuel Foster - Capt. Rev Army, died 1778.
53. Thomas Fracker - died 1806.
54. Nathaniel Frothingham, Jr. - LT. Rev Army, died 1825.
55. John Fulton – 40, 1733- .
56. John Gammell – 22, 1751-1828, revolutionary war soldier, buried at Central Burying Ground, Tomb 211.
57. Eleazer Gay
58. Thomas Gerrish
59. Samuel Gore – 22, 1751-1831, MCMA, Mason, buried at Granary Burying Ground, Tomb 131.
60. Moses Grant - 30, 1743-1817, MCMA.
61. Nathaniel Greene - early revolutionary, MCMA.
62. Timothy Guy
63. Samuel Hammond - 24, 1749-1842.
64. Peter Harrington
65. William Haskins
66. William Hendley - 25, 1748-1830, Mason.
67. George Robert Twelves Hewes - 31, 1742-1840, shoemaker, left diary of Tea Party.
68. John Hicks - 48, 1725-1775, killed April 19, 1775 at Arlington by British retreating from Battles of Lexington-Concord.
69. Samuel Hobbs - 23, 1750-1823.
70. John Hooton – Sgt. Rev Army.
71. Elisha Horton
72. Elijah Houghton
73. Samuel Howard (born Hayward) - died 1797.
74. Edward Compton Howe - 31, 1742-1821, buried at Central Burying Ground, Tomb 87.
75. Jonathan Hunnewell - 14, 1759-1842, First president MCMA.
76. Richard Hunnewell - 36, 1737-1805, Mason, MCMA.
77. Richard Hunnewell, Jr. – 16, 1757- ?
78. Thomas Hunstable - 20, 1753 - ?, Mason.
79. Abraham Hunt - 25, 1748-1793, Col. Rev Army, Valley Forge.
80. Daniel Ingersoll - 23, 1750-1829, Mason.
81. Daniel Ingoldson
82. Charles J



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave
No, the ones on this site who keep stammering on like a pack of loons about "commie this, commie that" are the ones that are bloody ignorant, especially when at least 2/3rds of the yokels that toss the word around have no basic understanding of what communism or socialism is aside from what they've heard Glen Beck and Limbaugh screaming about.


What?
Now I'm supposed to defend Glen Beck and Limbaugh?

I never listen to those goons! I do my own research & make up my own mind, You should try it some times.

On topic: This goes both ways....

That is why it's even more distressing when a bunch of starry eyed delusional people start agreeing with the tenants of Communism. Unless they are in their late 50s or older those impressionable kids Asspousing the virtues of Communism here in these threads have no clue what the hell they're talking about. Communism works great on paper as an academic study but in the real REAL world people die and die by the tens of Millions.

Hell, even the closest thing to REAL communism [Red China] gave up the ghost in favor of Capitalism. It only took the butchering of about 30+ million during the cultural revolution. Do we here in the West seriously need to go through all of that? What about the Millions killed by Stalin or Pol Pot? Give it a rest. Open your eyes and read who your bed fellows are and who you're closing ranks with.


Don't get upset if you're one of the ass clowns that want to accuse everyone who does not like the current crony faux capitalist, corporatist system that has led to this current inequality of being a communist.


I'll ignore your childish mental midget enticement and address your lack of perception of what I and quite a few other members here have noticed taking place. I support the majority of what the movement is trying to achieve in Principle. I really do. I however refuse to call those who are advocating Communism, Union involvement and violently overthrowing the Government with the shredding of the Constitution [simply because a small minority feels they are entitled to getting a bigger slice of the pie which most of whom haven't gotten off their collective asses and earned] my Comrades!


You all sound like the McCarthy era loons with your divisive and alienating rhetoric


Call me what you wish....

I've heard, seen and been through worse. You don't scare me. Work on it!
Talking about "Alienating rhetoric" It is you and other simple small minded individuals who are ruining ANY chance of this movement making any headway by Alienating the Silent Majority.

Think about that while you stuff that pie hole with another Hot pocket.

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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 12:03 PM
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I think thats an easy way for the elite to gain support in internet cencorship when 'everyone' starts hacking websites and knocking them offline.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 12:20 PM
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So you are comparing Soros to Jefferson and Code Pink to the minutemen.
Hahahaha
excuse me
Hahahaha
ok
I compare them more to Robes Piere and the Jacobins from history.
Whoever sits at the head of an eventual Globalist system will be the new age Napoleon.
The symbolism of that power is enough to make any elitist higher than a kite in an ecstacy of desires.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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Slayer, by the past, your answers in threads like this one was used to be intelligent and smart answers.
It seem being a popular person on ATS finaly got the best of you.

Did you see the reply you made about my post ?
a bit childish no ?


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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by AnonymousVan
Did you see the reply you made about my post ?
a bit childish no ?


No...

It was on par with the garbage you wrote.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:12 PM
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as expected

Slayer, seriously, you need to step down from your high horses.
You can call my post garbage and i dont really mind about it.

Im just disapointed , how and individual like you turned into a total ******, i know being popular is a thing, but most of your posts are now garbage with preformated opinion.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:27 PM
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Most people on ATS tend to follow what the MSM says.

On site like ATS, where conspiracies are debunked all day lng, i still see the same thing.

People mocking other people for their opinions

Yes , im part of Anonymous, yes i probably know more about the whole scheme in the Anonymous story than the whole posters on ATS

Lots of posters follow blidndly what the MSM serve thems, painting anonymous like a bunch of idiots or communists.

the thing is: you dont know a damn thing about it
You keep spewing the same constant BS about anonymous being with Soros, the CIA, the FBI, the Elites etc etc etc

Most of you would love to see us fail, just to get the opportunity to say : " see , i told they was only a bunch of stupid kids"

Most people on ATS dont care if we're trying actualy trying to chance something in our society, even if our methods are not-so-legal

Sad to see , when actualy someone ,a group of people actualy TRY to change something, people on ATS litteraly enjoy when Anonymous get arrested.

Nones here know what happen while we're organising protests, or actions, nones know a damn thing about computer security , here on ATS, but all act like they are professionals

so, if you're so good and specialized, why dont you help us changing the system, instead of being armchair debaters ?

You say you deny ignorance ?
Do i read the motto correctly ?

What i see here on ATS, is a Star and flag contests, and inflated egos




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