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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 04:45 AM
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Also, just to note, understand that here, in America, and around the world, people have been educated in certain ways to think certain things about government and how the rest of the world should live. Most of those that lived and went to school in the last century, as well as this one, were taught to absolutely loathe socialism and communism and fascism based purely on what was happening at that time. When you boil things down, you realize that they're just other examples of politics and economic systems and that something like capitalism is just another form. People are quick to slap things with a communist or socialist label without really knowing what communism or socialism is, aside from the skewed versions that everyone touts as perfect examples (e.g. the Soviet Union). Do you really think this is a perfect vision of capitalism? Don't you think something better out there could exist and could offer a global economy a more equitable solution?




posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 04:48 AM
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Originally posted by fooks

Originally posted by Resonant
So, George Soros supports Occupy Wall Street? And there's a problem with that? Because he's inhuman? Call it a conspiracy, fine, but also consider that people aren't always defined explicitly by a dollar sign.

It's as if every time someone suggests this is one giant, perfectly orchestrated sham, it spirals down into martial law, and mass killing, and death camps. Ask questions, find truth, but understand that sometimes reality can be just that. Real.

Is it really so impossible for someone who has wealth to think that the state of this society is not right? Or is that only thinking for the less fortunate?
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ya, mass killings.

and someone who has wealth that the protesters are protesting against that is behind the scenes is ok?

don't you think you are being played?


at least the right tea party has some brains.

this lefty tea party is a joke.



If you think that these protests are purely about "wealth" and anyone possessing it is a target, then you are mistaken.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 04:55 AM
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Originally posted by seenavv

Where the money comes from would be relevant if this was a centralized movement which it is not


It is VERY centralized. All hives are, though. The queen controls the hive, the drones protect the queen, and the workers get swatted. There's you collectivism in a nutshell. They're Hivers.



If the elite were really behind this it would be backed by the north american MSM which it is not. It is either blacked out, downplayed, or ridiculed


I think they may be better at strategy and psyops than you are, judging by this assumption of yours. It appears they are outthinking you rather handily. You should NOT play chess with these people any time in the near future.



It is true that in order for the elite to have their new world order, the old world order (which we currently live in) must be destroyed and one way would be through financial meltdown and mass riots,


Well yes, yes it IS true, isn't it? You should think DEEPLY on that,



but occupy wall st is completely peaceful movement


It ain't over until the fat lady sings.



I've seen many signs in the occupy wall st movement but nothing even close to "ushering in globalism" if anything, the total opposite


Neither are the worker bees privy to the plans of the queen from whence comes their orders....




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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 05:01 AM
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Originally posted by Resonant
People are quick to slap things with a communist or socialist label without really knowing what communism or socialism is, aside from the skewed versions that everyone touts as perfect examples (e.g. the Soviet Union).


They are The Hive. They operate off of the Hive Mentality.



Don't you think something better out there could exist and could offer a global economy a more equitable solution?


"Equitable" for whom? Remember the Animal Farm - some of the animals will be more equal than others. All you're doing is picking a different animal to be the "most" equal.










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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 05:03 AM
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fooling people and deception is a damn weapon
im alway amused to see ATSers throwing the alphabet soup around, thinking they found our identities.


Im an Anonymous Operative
And really, you're all seriously ignorants about what Anonymous is.

keep being paranoids, i know you all need your conspiracy fix


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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 05:09 AM
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Originally posted by seenavv

Originally posted by TinfoilTP

Originally posted by seenavv
there is the same thread about this on GLP and i got banned for posting this reply and i will say it again

OCCUPYWALLSTREET.ORG is NOT the official website of the occupy wall street movement. it is www.occupywallst.org

in reality neither are the official websites... this is not a centralized movement but rather a collective one. Adbusters may have been one of many factors in starting the occupy movement but they are not "leading" it in any way.

As long as it doesn't turn into a riot i am all for Occupy wall street and do not believe this is a psy op but rather a genuine attempt at demonstrating that the masses are not as asleep as we thought they were

so before you jump on the occupy wall st is a conspiracy bandwagon think about the big picture


You are the one stuck on the little picture and it is quite obvious the onion got to your senses after the first layer.
Ignoring where the money comes from will place you only in fantasy land.

It boils down to this,

The elites concieved and funded this gathering for you to protest Capitalism. The only solutions not attacked are socialist ones. The both of them are viewed as lesser systems of Globalism, socialism being the partner and capitalism the arch nemesis.

The chaos in the financial world was the direct cause of the very funders of this protest, the same super wealthy elitists who followed practices that led to bailouts.

They took zero risk to make you really mad, simple way to put it.
Zero risk because they created the system that bailed them out.

All that trouble so you would get out in the streets and make noise to usher in globalism. Fully implemented Globalism is their system of choice that will make them many times more wealthy than they are now in current systems.

If you ignore the money, you will never see the game being played, much less your role in it.


Where the money comes from would be relevant if this was a centralized movement which it is not

If the elite were really behind this it would be backed by the north american MSM which it is not. It is either blacked out, downplayed, or ridiculed

It is true that in order for the elite to have their new world order, the old world order (which we currently live in) must be destroyed and one way would be through financial meltdown and mass riots, but occupy wall st is completely peaceful movement

I've seen many signs in the occupy wall st movement but nothing even close to "ushering in globalism" if anything, the total opposite


Think like this,
The Tides Foundation is many layers removed from the msm, it's a pool for the elite themselves to funnel money and answer to nobody as to where it goes.

No, the msm acting clueless is because they are clueless and being clueless must have been deemed desirable or less troublesome.

Their money backed Obama's election in part and even he seems clueless as he has his Party operatives hit the protests to try to hijack them.

Wherever their money goes, they have influence, not the other way around. They want to rule on top of Globalism, where msm's and presidents are controlled if allowed at all. Don't see why they would consider it necessary to involve them.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 05:29 AM
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How about directing us to a transcript of what is being said in the video in this post. It claims to be from Anonymous, but is unintelligible due to being drowned out by the background music, Is it really saying anything at all?



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 05:36 AM
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I'm starting to think a lot of you don't actually know much about the things you talk about.
Left = democratic votes? Just automatically?
Left = socialism/communism? Again.. automatically?
Tree hugging... wait a min, what the heck is the alternative? Are you advocating we destroy our ecology? What the hell for?

I don't understand this allergy to concepts of happiness and freedom. Why does everything have to filter through the American two-party filter before you can digest it? Here is a shocker.. I'm "liberal" and I don't support Obama. WHOOOOOOAAA!!!!!
I'm also not a commie, not gay, don't want to force you give up your guns, think transsexuals are just confused, don't do yoga, am not a vegetarian.. etc etc...

And you people are hilarious with this whole George Soros thing. Oh my god can we find a nicer guy to hate on?
He's defeated communism, helped blacks, educated children, thinks Wall Street is a sham despite all his fortune, has paid off all investors and only risks his own money, wants to legalize marijuana, donates tons of money to truly inspiring causes.. and just generally wants people to be free and happy.

You're right.. that sounds very dangerous.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 05:38 AM
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Unfortunately for your narrow-minded pursuit, a single organization does not represent thousands of people. Individuals represent their own ideas, and that is what should be encouraged in any form of activism. Individuality, and the pursuit of awareness.
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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 05:42 AM
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Awesome post! Thank you



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 05:55 AM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by illuminatislave
I'm quick to raise an eyebrow when ATSers start to throw the communist label around...it reeks of ignorance.


Then you obviously haven't been reading OR paying attention to what many fairly recent or "Newish" members have been advocating garnering huge amounts of stars in quite a few threads here at ATS over the past couple of weeks or so.

So, if I were you I wouldn't be so full of yourself and so quick to judge nor label others who HAVE been reading and paying attention to their replies which are advocating Communism as ignorant!

It makes members question who's behind OWS. This is a conspiracy after all....

Pot meet Kettle.
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No, the ones on this site who keep stammering on like a pack of loons about "commie this, commie that" are the ones that are bloody ignorant, especially when at least 2/3rds of the yokels that toss the word around have no basic understanding of what communism or socialism is aside from what they've heard Glen Beck and Limbaugh screaming about.

Don't get upset if you're one of the ass clowns that want to accuse everyone who does not like the current crony faux capitalist, corporatist system that has led to this current inequality of being a communist. You all sound like the McCarthy era loons with your divisive and alienating rhetoric.
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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 05:57 AM
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Originally posted by anglodemonicmatrix
Im with Glenn Beck,this is George Soros at play,problem-reaction-solution create a crisis that will have people demand martial law and suspend elections and install Caeser.


If you're with Glenn Beck, I suggest you seek psychiatric help immediately



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 05:58 AM
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You managed to do a little real research and post it . Yet when I ask for the big spy owner of another site to name names in his accusations of whos behind the QWS , I get banned . Thank gog ofcourse as that place is dismall .



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 06:06 AM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave
Don't get upset if you're one of the ass clowns


SLAYER69 is far from a ass clown.

He's a great person, and very ambitious in his ideas. Something you may or may not be aware of, but I have been for longer than you've been registered.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 06:14 AM
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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 06:20 AM
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Originally posted by seenavv
but occupy wall st is completely peaceful movement




Originally posted by nenothtu
It ain't over until the fat lady sings.





so what are you predicting this will turn into a riot?


Occupy wall street is certainly not over... if anything it is going beyond viral, but there are no signs of this movement ending its peaceful behavior ... only unless there are agent provocateurs.

this movement does not fit in with the problem reaction solution technique because so far there have been no agent provocateurs and i doubt there will be any

Up to this day as i have said before it is an excellent demonstration of how awake the masses are in terms of their awareness of how they are getting screwed over by elements of the elite present within the financial district



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 06:21 AM
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Originally posted by Resonant
Also, just to note, understand that here, in America, and around the world, people have been educated in certain ways to think certain things about government and how the rest of the world should live. Most of those that lived and went to school in the last century, as well as this one, were taught to absolutely loathe socialism and communism and fascism based purely on what was happening at that time. When you boil things down, you realize that they're just other examples of politics and economic systems and that something like capitalism is just another form. People are quick to slap things with a communist or socialist label without really knowing what communism or socialism is, aside from the skewed versions that everyone touts as perfect examples (e.g. the Soviet Union). Do you really think this is a perfect vision of capitalism? Don't you think something better out there could exist and could offer a global economy a more equitable solution?


Exactly. Great post, it's sickening to read some of this stuff.

The mistake these people make is that they want to throw that label around with absolutely no understanding about what they're accusing people of, all because they disagree with this BROKEN system.

These are the same people that did not utter a peep when George Bush began the ultimate transfer of wealth from the American people to his banker cronies.

If wanting to see something better than outright fraud and crony capitalism for the United States makes me a "commie", so be it, but I'll spit in the face of any bastard or fringe loon that wants to call me that.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 06:38 AM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave

I don't care if you kiss that dude's ass, or worship whatever he says, if he wants to be pissed off because I called him and the rest of the "omg you're not down with gross inequality or the exploitation of the many by the few? you're a COMMIE!!" jackasses ignorant, that's his own problem.

I could give a damn how long you've been registered here. Shove it.


Who pissed in your Cheerios this morning?

Have you got anything constructive or intelligent to say, or is this just a rant day for you?

Instead of just blanket-pronouncing people as "ignorant", "jackasses", "ass clowns", "ass"kissers" etc., and telling folks to "shove it", how about at least making an attempt to articulate some sort of coherent rationale as to WHY you think these things?

Or would that just be too difficult? Take too much thinking or something?




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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by nenothtu


Neither are the worker bees privy to the plans of the queen from whence comes their orders....



so what are the plans then ? again pure speculation... how do you know the queen is going to give orders? Just because we are human does not mean we always behave like animals with conditional behavior you know ?



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by seenavv

Originally posted by seenavv
but occupy wall st is completely peaceful movement




Originally posted by nenothtu
It ain't over until the fat lady sings.


so what are you predicting this will turn into a riot?


I'm not predicting anything. I'm not a seer or a psychic. I'm saying that those are the chances. That's what these things are designed to do by the organizers at the top of the hive. The objective is generally to provoke a reaction in the government, or whomever they're against, which will be turned to their advantage with massive claims of how peaceful protesters were attacked unprovoked. Will it happen in this case? Who knows? It's not an exact science, and there are a lot of variables. That IS a potential, and that IS the design. Whether they can actually provoke the unrest is anther thing altogether. Only time will tell whether the fuse gets to the charge or fizzles out.



Occupy wall street is certainly not over... if anything it is going beyond viral, but there are no signs of this movement ending its peaceful behavior ... only unless there are agent provocateurs.


There will have to be agents provocateurs. Thee always are. There has to be a spark to start the fire. if it does go that way, however, bear in mind that whomever it is you perceive as your "opposition" doesn't have a monopoly on such agents. Your own side has them, too. In the case of the collectivists, they have shown time and time again that they have no compunction against getting a few of their own purposely martyred for the cause.



this movement does not fit in with the problem reaction solution technique because so far there have been no agent provocateurs and i doubt there will be any


I don't care about a "problem-reaction-solution" model. that has no bearing at all on what I'm talking about. This is a straight out collectivist strategy that has been employed by them for well over a hundred years. You could almost set your watch by the phases.



Up to this day as i have said before it is an excellent demonstration of how awake the masses are in terms of their awareness of how they are getting screwed over by elements of the elite present within the financial district


Give me a lesson in how "awake" the masses are. Find any five lists of demands, and compare them. Look closely at how these people are being told that the protest is against whatever they want it to be against - no two sets of demands are in agreement. It looks like it's all over the board, but there IS a method to this madness.

The objective of that is to get as many pissed off people out there as possible. Do you know why? It's because pissed off people are easier to inflame - it doesn't matter what they are pissed off about. The fact that they are running on emotion is enough. Get enough of those pissed off people in one place, and all it takes is one spark to set off a conflagration.



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