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Originally posted by fooks
Originally posted by Resonant
So, George Soros supports Occupy Wall Street? And there's a problem with that? Because he's inhuman? Call it a conspiracy, fine, but also consider that people aren't always defined explicitly by a dollar sign.
It's as if every time someone suggests this is one giant, perfectly orchestrated sham, it spirals down into martial law, and mass killing, and death camps. Ask questions, find truth, but understand that sometimes reality can be just that. Real.
Is it really so impossible for someone who has wealth to think that the state of this society is not right? Or is that only thinking for the less fortunate?edit on 4-10-2011 by Resonant because: (no reason given)
ya, mass killings.
and someone who has wealth that the protesters are protesting against that is behind the scenes is ok?
don't you think you are being played?
at least the right tea party has some brains.
this lefty tea party is a joke.
Originally posted by seenavv
Where the money comes from would be relevant if this was a centralized movement which it is not
If the elite were really behind this it would be backed by the north american MSM which it is not. It is either blacked out, downplayed, or ridiculed
It is true that in order for the elite to have their new world order, the old world order (which we currently live in) must be destroyed and one way would be through financial meltdown and mass riots,
but occupy wall st is completely peaceful movement
I've seen many signs in the occupy wall st movement but nothing even close to "ushering in globalism" if anything, the total opposite
Originally posted by Resonant
People are quick to slap things with a communist or socialist label without really knowing what communism or socialism is, aside from the skewed versions that everyone touts as perfect examples (e.g. the Soviet Union).
Don't you think something better out there could exist and could offer a global economy a more equitable solution?
Originally posted by seenavv
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Originally posted by seenavv
there is the same thread about this on GLP and i got banned for posting this reply and i will say it again
OCCUPYWALLSTREET.ORG is NOT the official website of the occupy wall street movement. it is www.occupywallst.org
in reality neither are the official websites... this is not a centralized movement but rather a collective one. Adbusters may have been one of many factors in starting the occupy movement but they are not "leading" it in any way.
As long as it doesn't turn into a riot i am all for Occupy wall street and do not believe this is a psy op but rather a genuine attempt at demonstrating that the masses are not as asleep as we thought they were
so before you jump on the occupy wall st is a conspiracy bandwagon think about the big picture
You are the one stuck on the little picture and it is quite obvious the onion got to your senses after the first layer.
Ignoring where the money comes from will place you only in fantasy land.
It boils down to this,
The elites concieved and funded this gathering for you to protest Capitalism. The only solutions not attacked are socialist ones. The both of them are viewed as lesser systems of Globalism, socialism being the partner and capitalism the arch nemesis.
The chaos in the financial world was the direct cause of the very funders of this protest, the same super wealthy elitists who followed practices that led to bailouts.
They took zero risk to make you really mad, simple way to put it.
Zero risk because they created the system that bailed them out.
All that trouble so you would get out in the streets and make noise to usher in globalism. Fully implemented Globalism is their system of choice that will make them many times more wealthy than they are now in current systems.
If you ignore the money, you will never see the game being played, much less your role in it.
Where the money comes from would be relevant if this was a centralized movement which it is not
If the elite were really behind this it would be backed by the north american MSM which it is not. It is either blacked out, downplayed, or ridiculed
It is true that in order for the elite to have their new world order, the old world order (which we currently live in) must be destroyed and one way would be through financial meltdown and mass riots, but occupy wall st is completely peaceful movement
I've seen many signs in the occupy wall st movement but nothing even close to "ushering in globalism" if anything, the total opposite
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Originally posted by illuminatislave
I'm quick to raise an eyebrow when ATSers start to throw the communist label around...it reeks of ignorance.
Then you obviously haven't been reading OR paying attention to what many fairly recent or "Newish" members have been advocating garnering huge amounts of stars in quite a few threads here at ATS over the past couple of weeks or so.
So, if I were you I wouldn't be so full of yourself and so quick to judge nor label others who HAVE been reading and paying attention to their replies which are advocating Communism as ignorant!
It makes members question who's behind OWS. This is a conspiracy after all....
Pot meet Kettle.edit on 3-10-2011 by SLAYER69 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by anglodemonicmatrix
Im with Glenn Beck,this is George Soros at play,problem-reaction-solution create a crisis that will have people demand martial law and suspend elections and install Caeser.
Originally posted by illuminatislave
Don't get upset if you're one of the ass clowns
Originally posted by seenavv
but occupy wall st is completely peaceful movement
Originally posted by nenothtu
It ain't over until the fat lady sings.
Originally posted by Resonant
Also, just to note, understand that here, in America, and around the world, people have been educated in certain ways to think certain things about government and how the rest of the world should live. Most of those that lived and went to school in the last century, as well as this one, were taught to absolutely loathe socialism and communism and fascism based purely on what was happening at that time. When you boil things down, you realize that they're just other examples of politics and economic systems and that something like capitalism is just another form. People are quick to slap things with a communist or socialist label without really knowing what communism or socialism is, aside from the skewed versions that everyone touts as perfect examples (e.g. the Soviet Union). Do you really think this is a perfect vision of capitalism? Don't you think something better out there could exist and could offer a global economy a more equitable solution?
Originally posted by illuminatislave
I don't care if you kiss that dude's ass, or worship whatever he says, if he wants to be pissed off because I called him and the rest of the "omg you're not down with gross inequality or the exploitation of the many by the few? you're a COMMIE!!" jackasses ignorant, that's his own problem.
I could give a damn how long you've been registered here. Shove it.
Originally posted by nenothtu
Neither are the worker bees privy to the plans of the queen from whence comes their orders....
Originally posted by seenavv
Originally posted by seenavv
but occupy wall st is completely peaceful movement
Originally posted by nenothtu
It ain't over until the fat lady sings.
so what are you predicting this will turn into a riot?
Occupy wall street is certainly not over... if anything it is going beyond viral, but there are no signs of this movement ending its peaceful behavior ... only unless there are agent provocateurs.
this movement does not fit in with the problem reaction solution technique because so far there have been no agent provocateurs and i doubt there will be any
Up to this day as i have said before it is an excellent demonstration of how awake the masses are in terms of their awareness of how they are getting screwed over by elements of the elite present within the financial district