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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by colbe
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by kalunom
I'd agree there's been pagan infestation of Christianity, I wouldn't say the "roots" are pagan.. they were the first to be called "Christian" at Antioch Syria.
St. Ignatius was the third Bishop of Antioch. He was the first to use the term "Catholic."
Ignatius of Antioch, Epistle to the Smyrnaeans, Chapter 6, 110 A.D.:
"Take note of those who hold heterodox opinions on the grace of Jesus Christ which has come to us, and see how contrary their opinions are to the mind of God ... They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and which that Father, in his goodness, raised up again. They who deny the gift of God are perishing in their disputes."
I was referring to something written about 70 years earlier:
The Book of ACTS.
Originally posted by kalunom
If the dating of this inscription is correct, as is believed to be the case, that would make it the oldest known Christian object.
The writers of this tablet were believed to live near Rome and to be followers of a second-century philosopher named Valentinus.
Valentinus' teachings are believed to be represented in the apocryphal book, The Gospel of Philip.
Originally posted by Zeer0
This is what im trying to tell everybody at school. Christianity also comes from other Gods, has similar stories that are found with other mythology and is a blatant Plagiarism of the Egyptian Religion. But people cant come to grasp this fact. Shows how brainwashed the Churches make people.
Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
This is Nothing new. Your Key statements living near Rome at the latter part of the 2nd century provides a clue that these people fallowed a sect of Roman Christianity. We have known for years that Roman Catholicism is a bastardized form of Christianity mixed with Paganism. If you study a book called Church in History by B.K Kuiper www.amazon.com... ( I studied this book over 20 years ago)
In it you will discover at exactly what point the the people of Rome integrated their misunderstood version of Christianity into their pagan rituals, melding them to become Roman Catholicism. The true Christian Church oblivious to what was happening in Rome happily went about their life.
Because Roman Catholicism was grown in one of the largest most popular cities around and because it became sanctioned by the government it spread like wild fire. It was a safe religion people could practice and together with government helped to ensure control and dominance over Rome's population.
This is why other Christian religions that formed before the Roman Catholic Protestant split are so different than the form of Christianity the Romans had. Coming out of Roman Catholicism , the Protestants, didn't get it right either, as they still held to many Roman Catholic pagan beliefs. There are very few true Christian churches left in the world today that practiced the religion as the apostles of Jesus did. Study the gospels of Matthew Mark Luke and John, then The Acts to see exactly what these true Christians believed and how they carried out these beliefs. This is the blueprint for the true Christian Church.
Originally posted by Fight4YourSoul
reply to post by kalunom
I am a follower of Christ- not christian- I was once a catholic.The early Catholic church brought in the paganism and fell under the "Christian" religion but boldly go against the commandments God has given us. Every religion was then rooted and branched off into their own rituals and doctrines. That is why we have confusion and lies within the church. Even the name Jesus is pagan in origin. There is no "J" in the Hebrew alphabet.The list goes on and on. Lucifer is the root for the lies, manipulation, and confusion. I can see why non believers would have a problem. However, at the same time everyone in their inner most being knows deep down in their heart there is one creator and one day we will meet him. Many ignore that feeling or thought cause we love to fulfill our flesh of sin and would rather listen to the other side of all the corruptions in the "christian" faith as an excuse to live how we want to and have no responsibility for our actions.
Originally posted by colbe
Hi JohnP,
Please share the "other Christian Religions that formed before the Roman Catholic?"
Names and dates.
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
reply to post by kalunom
I said all that to simply say this. Paganism is idol worship of symbols. When the symbol is made the God and worshiped, this is paganism.
The symbol is there to point the way to God. That's it. God is the one to be admired. All of nature is the symbol that points to God. The meaning of the symbol is what points the way.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by kalunom
I'd agree there's been pagan infestation of Christianity, I wouldn't say the "roots" are pagan.. they were the first to be called "Christian" at Antioch, Syria.