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TAVISTOCK - Best Kept Secret in America

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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:16 AM
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Great quote "No plan survives first contact with the enemy” the smartest people never allow anything to limit their way of thinking or ability to adapt to new information. Always keeping option open by and putting their adversaries to a decision thus never letting anything go unplanned or unaccounted for, giving them the advantage

What is understood about History, Science like Physics, Biology, Physiology, Math and the presented research backing it all up, Most never really know about or care to be true or not, since they never wanted to ask themselves and others why or why not; which is the fundamental part to really understanding and comprehend anything rather then only to know the correct answer

History is just background noise since the information they are basically being told is the most boring and albeit (to a child's mind at least) irrelevant story to them except for the fact they have to pass a test on the subject like the Renaissance which to a both the kid whose being Punked at lunch and the one Punking him have in common is that they don't care about what happened 500 year ago compared to what they will do when the lunch bell rings.

In public K-12 education you are trained to write about you're point by finding all the facts that support it and ignoring those that don't.This effectively limits how most choose to perceive reality not just in the classroom, but also on social structure in peer groupings structure and sub-structure, which over those 13 year shape who people become how they adapt and change, Allowing for children to be animalistic, but also extremely manipulative in the ways they find to dominate and belittle others,) leading children as they mature into teens to find safety in a group that both provides to protect from predatory behavior and that allowed them to feel safe to share things and feeling about themselves that they often hide out of fear of ridicule.

The majority of humanity desire to belong within the group(herd/pack/nation/gang/political party) giving a person peace of mind by providing safety in numbers solutions to problems and answers to the questions they seek to give a sense of reality from a self-centered outlook, think only about their problems and how it effects them and what is best for them and theirs which means most seek answers that simply explain and back up what they feel they think, each individual limits the complexity of their world, choosing what makes them feel best, whether thats not knowing that santa claus doesn’t exist or knowing just enough to feel secure that the group knows best trusting the Leadership, "experts" or any individual viewed as an authority and dictates the groups understanding of what is truth Laying the foundation of how they interpret and interact with other people animals and the environment in the world, this provides those with the control of influence of belief the will power of those who believe but like all power it can be easily corrupted

In the 1950s at Swarthmore College, Pennsylvania, Solomon Asch conducted experiments into conformity, which demonstrated that, in simple tests comparing three vertical lines, most people would rather give an obviously wrong answer that kept them in a group than a correct answer that would make them outsiders.

www.newstatesman.com...

That unfortunately for society serves to reenforce willful blindness and the basic ideas of what authority is on young impressionable minds, which in a schools social structuring, the supreme authority the faculty have the most power but also the least amount of influence in comparison to peer groups that more effectively force people to fall in line and choose their path of willful blindness to achieve acceptance. Further defining established hierarchy and the view of ones place within it much in the same way society is structured and how groups function with some actively trying to gain a position higher in the groups anyway possible because if they don't someone else will move ahead.

The weak minded soulless Zombies that simply follow or worse the "Fan of fans" who parrot the thoughts of others and never formulate opinion of their own or can know why they believe in something so irrationally Since they only are seeking the adoration and status from the group by being the loudest and to fight whenever and any means no matter how unthinkable to most rational people, And like (Female dogs) spit venomous B.S seeking to condescend and belittling the people to make themselves feel less inferior to the happy peoples, that they cannot be Equal to since their deluded Player Haters or mindless Fans of Fans


This is a message from THE BAY to all the Player Haters and their fans ┌∩┐( ̄ー ̄)┌∩┐ around the world Just to let you know its not your job dont do that.

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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:48 AM
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Yes this is a well-guarded topic.
Good work everyone in the thread.

I didn't know these unfortunate facts about 'that other website', as I never visit there. If there were anything good on that site or sites like it, it would bleed over to here anyways.

But now you know why I like ATS the best, because as long as you follow the T+C, try and stay chilled out, you can discuss virtually any conspiracy topics pretty freely.

I have said all kinds of things that should have been censored by Uncle Sam, but ATS left them up to be Google searched to this very day. The only real censorship I see is 1) breaking T+C or 2) getting in protracted fights with mods/admins and being super-unreasonable.

As long as you remain well spoken and within your wits, you can publicize any wacky theory you have on this fine website. The members here are generally a good bunch and will help spread the word and are typically more than willing to contribute to the discussion and add more research to the pile.

But overall, I have never seen anyone get in trouble for discussion over Tavistock or any other types of institutions as that is a geo-politics subject and very important obviously. You can talk about all types of well-hidden groups here, like this:

Pilgrim's Society


The Pilgrims Society, founded in 1902, is a British-American society established, in the words of American diplomat Joseph Choate, 'to promote good-will, good-fellowship, and everlasting peace between the United States and Great Britain'. Over the years it has boasted an elite membership of politicians, diplomats, businessmen, and writers have included Henry Kissinger, Casper Weinberger, Douglas Fairbanks Jr., Henry Luce, Alexander Haig, Paul Volcker, Tom Kean and Walter Cronkite to mention a very few. It is notable for holding dinners to welcome into office each successive U.S. Ambassador to the United Kingdom. The patron of the society is Queen Elizabeth II.


Their patron is the Queen and only the cream of the crop can get in.

A few more just for fun:
Society of Jesus

Order of the British Empire
Royal Victorian Order
Most Noble Order of the Garter

Everyone talks about Skull and Bones from Yale, but do you know about "Scroll and Key" ?

The Scroll and Key Society is a secret society, founded in 1842 at Yale University, in New Haven, Connecticut. It is the second oldest and wealthiest[1][2] Yale secret society. Each year, the society admits fifteen juniors to participate in its activities and carry on its traditions.


It's older and wealthier than the Bonesmen. But almost never spoken about. Interesting bit.

I just assume that if they are censoring something hardly worth censoring like Tavistock information, than they would probably censor at least a few of the links I just posted. I dunno, you can try posting it to see.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 01:49 AM
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This thread is veeeerrrrry interesting...

So I was digging and oddly enough I googled the address. Zoomed in on the institute and hovered over the marker I get:

"sir-john rawlings-reese - mind control - new world order - kept secret in america - please contact rachel"

as the description...

UPDATE:

I tried to post on "the other site" and made NO MENTION of the word TAVISTOCK in my thread...and I was still instantly auto-banned upon hitting "post"...

UPDATE Ver 2.0

browsing the website that was posted I think I found "Rachel"...

www.tavinstitute.org...
r.kelly@tavinstitute.org
020 7457 3927
skype: rachelkelly25

creepy...

my username however may have hinted at it but it was approved...hmm
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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 02:10 AM
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Good post you are right for the most part.

I agree that social conditioning and acceptance weigh far more importantly in people's minds than what authority says.

That's all authority has to do, control the group. As long as the control the group itself, crowd control, they can control the individuals. Individuals will follow the herd typically, so just control the direction of the herd. Mass media can achieve reinforcing false beliefs and making them seem true, as the old adage goes "Tell a lie enough times and eventually people will believe it".

Honestly, and personally, I would never want to be anywhere near a group of people who choose to make social acceptance a higher virtue than the TRUTH....

Anyone who will accept outright lies in order to fit in, wants to be in the wrong group. Let me tell ya!



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 03:27 AM
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Thanks for info man!

I knew there was something along these lines but didnt know the name etc.

Bookmarked



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 03:53 AM
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Of course they have a website.
It is an organization directly concerned with group/hive mentality, behavior, and mass organizational pyschologies. The research done over the past 100 years by this institution has laid the foundation and paved the way for everything from mass propaganda formulation, to today's cutting edge mass marketing strategies. The information and discoveries are not without an agenda. Since it's not publicly funded I would find the major contributers to it's research and implementation. Corporations use this type of bull***t to get into the minds of every one of us and to mold us into little consumers. Many Corporate Rah Rah Sessions are led by people who are directly influenced by the findings of these types of institutes that prey on the weaknesses of the human condition. Herd Mentality and peer acceptance is among the strongest motivating factors driving people today.

If you think that there have not been some deep and dark tests re; the human psyche with pyschadelics, pychotropics, mind control, and various mindf*****g techniques and
that knowledge has not found it's way to some rogue elements or nefarious types to use it for some type of gain, you my friend are exactly as your handle states.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 04:54 AM
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Bumpsicle
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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 05:10 AM
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Wow oh wow .....thanks op and others....good info and I must say a scary state ....this info will gather steam and will get out to larger audiences ,and who knows might go viral ..one can only hope ...peace



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 05:37 AM
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i was banned for saying the T-word too. After hearing about forbidden words I expermineted, and was banned instantly.
I can see GLP from work, but cant log in of course. I am positive GLP is using mind control through "users" avatars, and possibly silent sound from the website, though i can;t prove either. but when i was there it became a bit addictive for me for no reason - the people on there all seem to have a certain madness about them, and after a couple of weeks i started seeing things in my peripheral vision, which stopped after leaving the site.
It is evil, and Trinity is a ego-maniac, and gets off on treating the people like &*% - and they still grovel at his feet. He is vulgar about the occupy movement too. makes me wonder what the GLP agenda is, but i would encourage everyone to cancel accounts adn come over here. Nicer saner people, nicer mods and owners. why stay at the nuthouse???



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 05:51 AM
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Knowing what they are doing is just as important as knowing who is doing it. The Century of the Self is a great documentary which outlines the history of the modern psychiatric approach to dealing with others.

My favorite quote from the film is said by a psychiatrist, kind of summing up his outlook on humanity after thirty years of the practice of psychiatry, "People are nutty."

This film is available in parts, also.


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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 06:10 AM
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Originally posted by the2ofusr1
Wow oh wow .....thanks op and others....good info and I must say a scary state ....this info will gather steam and will get out to larger audiences ,and who knows might go viral ..one can only hope ...peace


I would like nothing better than for this to gather steam and go viral. That place is addictive and I certainly fell prey to it. I was on that site daily and you can see for yourself because my handle is the same as the one here.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 06:59 AM
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I'd like to say thank you for your thread. I've always been interested in finding out more about the Tavistock Institute but to be quite honest, I think I'd forgotten all about it!

I've been doing a little googling and came across a PDF of a book called The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations by Dr. John Coleman. I hope it's not been posted already but I don't think I saw it. Here

I don't know how reliable it is because David Icke seems to be a fan. (Personally not my favourite guy!) But it's the only book I can find on the subject and hopefully it will interest some of you. Have fun



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 07:10 AM
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Originally posted by JammyQ
I'd like to say thank you for your thread. I've always been interested in finding out more about the Tavistock Institute but to be quite honest, I think I'd forgotten all about it!

I've been doing a little googling and came across a PDF of a book called The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations by Dr. John Coleman. I hope it's not been posted already but I don't think I saw it. Here

I don't know how reliable it is because David Icke seems to be a fan. (Personally not my favourite guy!) But it's the only book I can find on the subject and hopefully it will interest some of you. Have fun


Wow! Thanks for the link to the book! I've got it bookmarked and look forward to reading it!



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by LuckyStrike
Yes! That is the thread where the coded word "Tavistock" showed up and was quickly removed by the mods. About an hour ago I was sitting in the waiting room at the dentists office. Using their free WIFI I was able to get back on that site an post another thread as an experiment. I used vague terms and alluded to the subject and urged people to research. That was quickly removed as well with an instant ban on that IP address. They work fast...


Actually they have a script running that autobans anyone who posts certain words, Tavistock being one of them. Others are the actual names of the owner and his main admin. I'm pretty sure most of the long term members (do they still have that special membership you can pay for?) know about this. Generally I'd be very careful with that site... if you install a better security program that monitors whom or what actually tries to get into your computer (and of course fends them off) you will be very surprised if you go to GLP.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 07:21 AM
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Originally posted by LuckyStrike
What struck me as odd was that I was following a thread on G-L-P(remove dashes) that the owner had posted about saying stuff about the gov on his site and he wouldn't tolerate it. Well, one poster coded the word "Tavistock" and I was able to pick up on it before the post was deleted by the mods. It was deleted rather quickly by the way. I googled it and this article came up and I thought it was rather eye-opening. By the way, this poster said nothing else that would be considered inciting violence or racist or anything else like that. Well, I then experimented on posting this article and it wouldn't let me do that. The word "Tavistock" could not even be used. If I tried to reply to someone it would not let me and then resulted in me being banned, even though I am a paying member. Using that word will not let you post or reply to any threads on that site. The only thing I can assume is that site is somehow affilated with that institute.


A guy named Jason Lukas works for them.

A guy named Jason Lukas owns some websites.

You need to change the K to C, and talk to Google, you will learn all you really need to know to understand why that website has absolutely nothing to do with anything other than agressive data mining and psych research. That is why they are so sensitive to people posting freely, because you can change the tone of the threads on their with the truth in such a way that hurts their research work.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 07:31 AM
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I found an similar article I could to be a little more succinct than the OP:


The Science of Mass Manipulation through crisis creation. An Introduction to the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations

“In our dreams, people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hands.” – Fredreick Gates Chairman of the Rockefeller established General Education Board (The World’s Work, August 1912)

Created at Oxford in 1921 by the Royal Institute for International affairs, with later funding from the Rockefeller Foundation, the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations is the nerve center for the global manipulation of human consciousness. Not long after Tavistock was set up by co-founder John Rawlings Rees and others, it became the core of Britain’s Psychological Warfare Bureau, studying the effects of shell shock on British soldiers. Tavistock also played a crucial role in the creation of the OSS (the precursor to the CIA), under the guidance of Dr. Kurt Lewin, with help from Allen Dulles, the German Nazis and the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff.

“Research into the use of microwave weapons and their use for mind control began in the 1950s at Tavistock. The UK institute was researching into ways of mind controlling the British population without them knowing.” – im Rifat Microwave Mind Control

Aside from helping to create the CIA, Tavistock was also the major force behind the formation of NATO and is deeply connected to the Club of Rome.

The Club of Rome works with Tavistock to create propaganda and crisis in order to manipulate the world’s population in a pre-determined direction, toward a collectivist, one world socialistic dictatorship.

Today, Tavistock operates through a vast network of think tanks, NGOs, universities and media outlets to influence public opinion, while breaking down the moral fabric that has held the West together using scientifically-crafted techniques of manipulation.


Rest of article, here: FollowTheMoney.com(?!)

Of particular interest... "Created at Oxford in 1921 by the Royal Institute for International affairs, with later funding from the Rockefeller Foundation..."
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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 07:43 AM
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Great thread - I have recently become interested in methods of mind control. I read where Tavistock was a key component in the London bombings. The article even had photographs indicating the symbols on one of the buses and the street sign. I have quickly learned that people on this site like evidence - if anyone is interested in the article I can find it - I will have to rummage through some magazines - it is only recent - this year I think.

I have some fundamental psychology study under my belt. I was surprised to learn - some time ago that Freud was paid to focus his theories on sex. If you know anything about the illuminati - sex plays a huge part in their lifestyles. Also consider that Freud left his wife for a much younger women (a relative at that) another indicator of illuminati connections - if you have read deeply and widely enough. It made sense as to why Jung and he parted ways.

Sex is a predominant and recurrent symbol in all media. I went for a trawl on the internet one night and I clicked onto loads and loads of sites with - just about everything. Only one site stopped me and asked if I was eighteen - I also had to register.

Everyone has got me wondering now - when I click on reply - will I be deleted????!!!

Much Peace...



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 07:43 AM
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Hello Folks.

I found an online extract of the book from Daniel Estulin I mentioned in my first post in this thread (and in ATS for that matter). The site is in spanish, so I google translated an excerpt.

The link where this comes from is

pocamadrenews.wordpress.com...-13482

"CHAPTER 2

"The Perfect brainwashing machine: the MTV"

"Come on MTV, the music television"

"The MTV, a channel for popular music market and rock music videos, devised and directed by Robert Pittman for the young teenage audience, was founded on August 1, 1981. Today is part of the Viacom empire (known as CBS Corporation, whose president and CEO, Sumner Redstone, is a full member of the CFR, whose media group is part of the Bilderberg Club). To reach young people without the company realized the deception, it was necessary to 'have a contrainstitución to preach values ​​contrary to the dominant values ​​in society. " That is precisely what makes MTV. 'But for this effort to succeed, says L. Wolfe, you must neutralize the positive influence of parents and school, or at least weaken their influence. '"

"'The model for this [MTV] were the theater offered by the pre-Nazi Richard Wagner, in which the public had a kind of ecstasy that was later used by the Nazis consciously to create their own celebrations symbolic, such as meetings in Nuremberg. "The brainwashing specialists who created the MTV were well aware of its effect. In a book on the chain, Rocking Around the Clock, E. Ann Kaplan says that the MTV 'hypnotizes more than any other [television] because it is a series of short texts that keep us in a constant state of excitement and expectation ... We were stuck in the constant hope that the next video we will meet by end. Seduced by the promise of immediate fulfillment we continue to consume these texts infinitely short '. "

"During the four minutes that lasts about a music video (Tavistock scientists determined that four minutes was the most that an individual was able to receive unintended messages contained in the programs)," an artificial reality in the form of 'counterpoint' is inserted into the consciousness, replacing the cognitive reality ... '. "

"'If people think about this process, writes Walter Lippmann, we may be [it] is finished', but concludes, 'the mass of illiterate, mentally retarded, as profoundly neurotic, undernourished and frustrated individuals is so great, there is reason to believe much more than we generally believe. So, [the process] is set to reach people who are mentally children or barbarians whose lives are a complete mess, choose simple content with great popular appeal ... '. In Crystallizing Public Opinion [...] Edward Bernays said that "the average citizen is the world's most effective censor. Your own mind is the greatest barrier that separates it from the facts. "

"The audience gets brainwashed only has the illusion that retains the ability to choose, like a drug believed to control his addiction rather it controls him. 'The MTV says Ann Kaplan, is designed by a growing knowledge of the methods of psychological manipulation. "[...] The average daily TV consumption had risen steadily since the advent of television, so that the mid-1970s, daily activity was the most time was spent after sleep and work, with almost six hours. Since then, with the advent of the VCR, of game consoles has risen more. School-age children spend almost as much time watching television as sleeping. "



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 07:51 AM
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Search youtube for tavistock, godlikeproductions and jason lucas. You will find tons of videos on this subject.

www.youtube.com...


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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 07:56 AM
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I just discovered this guy Estulin has a book on the Tavistock Institute scheduled to be released on March 2012. It will launch in both Spanish and English.

www.barnesandnoble.com...

I just want to make it clear I have not any interest on spaming the site and/or promote Estulin's work. I just post this information because the guy has been researching the issue for years and, to my best knowledge, his work is rather unknown in the English speaking world. This guy has even adressed the European Parliament about the threat that the Bilderberg might pose to the world. And he plainly states that the Tavistock Institute is the "Think tank" of the Bildelbergs, designing all the social engeneering we have been subject.




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