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Whats George Soros got to do with Occupy WallStreet Movement? Lets find The TRUTH

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posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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On the Internet anyone can own a site...the list of demands you posted aren't an official list. Furthermore, the protestors not only have the right to protest, their cause is a good one too which should be evident to anyone. Whether or not Soros donates money for the cause, who cares? Anyone doing so and supporting the cause by showing up (even better than donating) is good in my book.

Let me ask you this: Do you like inflated gas prices? If the answer is "no", you should call the guys demonstrating and donating "heros"!!

Some people say we lost a researcher who "studied" Soros and his "evil" connections...I hope you don't mean boondock. All he ever did was accuse that guy for stuff without ever presenting any objective evidence as backup...like a never ending rant


Anyone who believes that it's ok for tax payers to bail out massive banks so they can continue to pay out huuuuuuuuuge bonuses (which they did) is beyond mental. You can't possibly be that brainwashed!!
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posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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The collective? What does the Borg have to do with this conversation? That’s funny.


I haven’t watched nor listened to Beck since he got all evangelical.

Have no clue as to this LaDouche character is. Unless you’re talking about Lyndon LaRouche? I would actually say your little nickname for him is accurate.

Stop belittling people who clearly think for themselves. It’s a Alinsky tactic that garners not ounce of support for your points.

I have been to the Balkans, I have seen firsthand what Soros money has done to people’s lives.

The man is pure unadulterated evil, but that is only my opinion.

I am not led around by the nose by those of the extreme right or left. I can think for myself, thank you very much.

But the OWS has already been infiltrated, the evidence is there. The Union support alone is enough for me not to support them and wish for the movements failure.

What started out with good intent has now been polluted, just like the Tea Party.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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I've got my thumb on the entire collective's pulse and can understand each and every grievance.


ORLY, but you can't understand how Soros or TOSf could be helping out printing some fliers and chipping in a dollar or two when it's excactly the kind of great stuff they usually support.... Great


We haven't won until all the millionares awaken aswell, when they are demanding they be taxed more and suport #occupywallstreet.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 08:22 PM
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Soros is a pretty slick character.

He is a Rothschild "investment" agent.

He is a former Nazi collaborator (by self-admission, not much proof)

He is from a Hungarian Jewish family.

There is some evidence he may be a family relative of a Rothschild.

His brand of socialism is unique.

He preaches dissent and invests both ways.

His "companies" and storm front NGO's have a single objective.

Exploitation of wealth (natural resources), transfer proceeds to offshore accounts, return as little as possible to citizens of exploited nations.

Many, if not most "nations" are involved in this worldwide plan.

A few recent examples:
All the N. Africa/Middle East "nations" have been victims of this agenda.
New financial infrastructures are necessary to continue this plan,
hence, we see mass destruction and turmoil.
The corporations will profit with the rebuilding .... the "enlightened" citizens will again be exploited.

The central bank systems are the obvious "goods in the window".

The assets are in accounts offshore.


ETA: The Soros definition of "Collectivism" is:

Collect all you can, and return only a few crumbs to "charity" ... after all, charity is for people we have already exploited $$
$$


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posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 09:01 PM
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Read my posts of the past. I'm all for revolution in fact I advocate it strongly. My thing is caution. If we are going to do this thing we have to be sure it's done right and we are not tools for someones agenda that we would not as Americans agree with.

We cant do it by force, they have all the big guns. We can't do it from within the legal system, that has been tried for 30 years and has gotten us nowhere. I still want to know, whats the goals and whats the plan to get to those goals. Protesting is great but you have to follow up on it. Just the act of millions of people taking to the street alone won't cause anything to change.

How radical can you get and still be effective without crossing that line into violence? Not very unless you have really solid goals and plans to get there. I guess we will know by watching this thing play out.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 09:33 PM
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What I find humorous is the silly, fools who make Soros the boogie man. Even if he is bad, he is only a cog. That being said, I think he should be embraced with much caution, rather than vilified.

Why do some of you despise him? Because Glenn Beck and Fox told you to? Fox doesn't even support Ron Paul. If fox was what they claim to be, they could push Paul to the presidency.

Which leads back to why I am tentatively behind Soros. It is how the saying goes, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". If Soros is evil, he is a red herring, a patsy and a sacrificial lamb of the dark half of TPTB. Which all that would make him is the bag man. Otherwise, he may actually be a money man on the side of the people.

But back to people's hatred of him. It is also because he is liberal. I hope there will always be a counterbalance to liberalism, but it is not an evil philosophy. Yes, there is much good that comes from the hands off approach too, but no game can be played without rules and referees. Also, why do so many christian, right-wing politicos vilify someone if they are liberal? How one can love Jesus, yet despise liberal ideology as whole will always baffle me.

If America is to once again be what it was intended to stand for, it will only happen with a mix of social programs and lase fair ideology.

Face the facts, most people have done little reading on any of the political philosophies they love or hate. Ironically, the same could be said for most bible bangers. Nothing wrong with faith, but actually read the book. I am not an atheist, but most of them have better knowledge of the bible and have more likely read it than most judgmental, mouth breathers.

I am sure I have tweaked some of you, but have the courage to admit what you do not know. Have the courage to admit you may be spewing exactly what those you fear want you to.

The key to opening your heart is to open your mind.

Love, health and peace to all of you.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 09:38 PM
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Soros....soros...soros...

If you want to kill a beast, you cut off its head. If you think he is the kingpin, then you are not paying attention. Instead, you are drinking the Fox news kool-aid. Which by the way, is one half of the cable media mouth piece of the NWO.

Also, Fox tells you to fear Soros, so what does that mean then?



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 09:45 PM
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I am sure I have tweaked some of you, but have the courage to admit what you do not know. Have the courage to admit you may be spewing exactly what those you fear want you to.

The key to opening your heart is to open your mind. ...

Otherwise, he may actually be a money man on the side of the people.








"The key to opening your heart is to open your mind."


AND, don't forget your wallet and your bank account !!!!!

Pie in the sky thinking is exactly what they want


Soros IS on the side of the people .......

Like JG Wentworth says ..... "its YOUR money, use it when YOU need it !"



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by theingloriousbasterd
reply to post by xuenchen
 


Soros....soros...soros...

If you want to kill a beast, you cut off its head. If you think he is the kingpin, then you are not paying attention. Instead, you are drinking the Fox news kool-aid. Which by the way, is one half of the cable media mouth piece of the NWO.

Also, Fox tells you to fear Soros, so what does that mean then?



And which head would that be ?


"Also, Fox tells you to fear Soros, so what does that mean then?"

I don't know.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 09:52 PM
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There ya go.
Soros and social engineering. Nothing more nothing less. Its really quite a delight to see the colors in the picture once you learn how they operate. How they hide things in the open. They're beginning to lose their hiding abilities and run out of magic tricks.

Whomever these powers that be are.----on All sides
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posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 09:56 PM
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here is a post from a new thread.

links Soros to some interesting sources !!!!



www.abovetopsecret.com...


might want to looke here too

www.abovetopsecret.com...#
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who's the sucker now? we all look the same in the mirror!



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave
I've questioned this. I think for the most part the protestors are acting on their own accord and hence it really is a leaderless movement, a platform for many people who are frustrated with the money in washington to air their disgust.

But I cannot help but think that the movement has already been infiltrated. History has shown us that the hidden hand can and will touch everything that springs up to challenge it's grip on this current paradigm. COINTELPRO and all of that...people need to keep watch and question the motivations of the people around them as this grows larger. Now that the media has finally started covering it, more than likely the infiltration and disruption of the Occupy Movement is well underway.
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But in the end, I feel that the people have been prodded towards civil unrest, so this could all be the next chapter of the march towards total global oppression by the elite.


I suspect that too. That it started spontaneously (and was therefore simply ignored at first). I think the 'powers that be' are still trying to get a handle on it.

The Tea Party machinations got exposed pretty quickly so I guess they are now trying from the left rather than the right.

So it makes sense that the 'controlled Left' will be what steps in, and I suppose it starts with the money, and the naive well-meaning types that unfortunately still fall for the old ideological alignment traps.

BTW - I think it's a mistake to align Unions with George Soros and his ilk - while they may refer to themselves as socialist or leftist it's a safe bet they are not really pro-labor. Their job has largely been to hijack the left FROM labor via environmentalism, pro-immigration and other platforms, but I'll save those theories for another thread.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 10:03 PM
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To those who think Soros is one of the good guys:
There is NO SUCH THING as a billionaire who genuinely favors policies that would help the average person.

Repeat: NO SUCH THING.

On the right are types like Mellon-Scaife and the Koch Bros and on the left are the likes of Soros and Maurice Strong.

All of them have in common lots of money and power. And their sole aim is to keep it that way.

Don't be fooled by any of them.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 10:43 PM
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So it makes sense that the 'controlled Left' will be what steps in, and I suppose it starts with the money, and the naive well-meaning types that unfortunately still fall for the old ideological alignment traps.

BTW - I think it's a mistake to align Unions with George Soros and his ilk - while they may refer to themselves as socialist or leftist it's a safe bet they are not really pro-labor. Their job has largely been to hijack the left FROM labor via environmentalism, pro-immigration and other platforms, but I'll save those theories for another thread.



Yes, the "controlled Left" is the oxymoron that will instill the general idea ....

always WITH money ... yours and mine $$
$$


and watch out UNIONS !

The Soros/Obama machine is actually setting up the unions for failure.

There have been NO union friendly laws passed.

Worker benefits and wages are dropping ..... both public and private.
Jobs have been streaming out of the country like rats abandoning ship.

all while the union echelons are getting rich.....

far cry from the original intent decades ago.

The best way to cause failure is to corrupt the leadership.

The unions have been systematically compromised.

Now they will use the victims to protest the idealisms.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
Read the list of demands for Congress and read the comments. Some of these are shocking and no matter what anyone says, some are down right Socialistic.

Did you know Occupy Wallstreet - wants to Open our Boarders?

Did you know Occupy Wallstreet -- blames all our problems on The Democrats?

Did you know Occupy Wallstreet - wants to give every person even illegal aliens a Living Wage just for being alive regardless of employment status?

occupywallst.org...


Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.


I wanna know who this guy Lloyd is who wrote this and what his background is. many of these things go against everything this country was founded on.

I find it highly suspicious that there are only 17 comments on this page after 7 days. Seems like there should be pages of comments.






This all sounds GREAT. What is wrong with this. I would like to see the long version of how this is supposed to work out for everyone. Maybe this isn't so bad after all. Sure better than what we have now, alot of people out of work, jobs going overseas, the rich get richer, the poor get poorer. Maybe we need a different system, TRY SOMETHING ELSE and see if it works. Why not? If it works, why not. try it. Interesting.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 11:11 PM
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i'll wait till the new york yankees win the world series to occupy wall street. then i can buy a yankees jersey and undermine the system.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 11:37 PM
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Originally posted by JohnPhoenix

occupywallst.org...


Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.


I wanna know who this guy Lloyd is who wrote this and what his background is. many of these things go against everything this country was founded on.

I find it highly suspicious that there are only 17 comments on this page after 7 days. Seems like there should be pages of comments.





What a bunch of drivel for demands.......Obviously someone who doesn't have a clue of fiscal realities. Forget the "pay everyone a living wage even if they don't work" bit. They want to get rid of all Nuclear power plants and all carbon producing plants........while working on other "sustainable" power sources. That alone would put us back over 100 years. There is no reasonable way our power needs could be met by such a ill thought out plan.

Exactly where are they going to come up with all this money to fund these grandiose ideas?

I think we should add in a Electric car for every family as well..... and a Pony......I want a Pony too.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 11:54 PM
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The name it started with was US Days of Rage. The Right even attacked them for the name saying it was asking for violence. So they droped the name US Days if Rage.

www.theblaze.com...


Posted on August 19, 2011 at 11:20am by Tiffany Gabbay

What, exactly, is a “US Day of Rage?” Well, on September 17th we may find out for certain, but until then, The Blaze is revealing what information does exist about this very nefarious-sounding campaign.

A US Day of Rage is the title given to a day of ostensibly “non-violent” civil disobedience orchestrated by a group of radicals — that reportedly include SEIU’s Stephen Lerner and ACORN founder Wade Rathke (who, coincidentally, formerly served as president of SEIU’s local New Orleans branch) — targeting Wall Street and U.S. capitalism. It’s worth noting that the title of the movement — if its intentions are indeed non-violent in nature — appears to contradict itself slightly.

But what is perhaps even more interesting than its title is who is allegedly behind the movement.

You may recall that back in March The Blaze exposed Lerner for stating his aspirations to destroy JP Morgan Chase and cause the collapse of the entire stock market.

Now, the US Day of Rage protests, staged by a collective of activist groups allegedly in conjunction with Lerner and Rathke, are planning the actual “occupation” of Wall Street September 17, complete with a tent city set smack-dab in the middle of Manhattan’s financial district. Similar protests are purportedly set to take place across the nation — and even world — at the same time. Some Day of Rage organizers are even calling on activists to squat in Manhattan’s financial district for months at a time.

The Blaze’s report on Lerner, who serves on SEIU’s International Executive Board, caught the union


And if you want to see how long its been planned you have to go to there websites creation date.

whois.domaintools.com...



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"Created On:12-Mar-2011 21:45:22 UTC"'
So the site for this was created March 12th for a event to take place 6 months later on September 17th. But the thing that I don't ge is "Registrant Name: Publius Adams" could that be refering to Samuel Adams Foundation and its Publius forums? That group is basicly a carbon copy of the Koch Brothers Tea Party. Strange if that is the case?

en.wikipedia.org...



Sam Adams Alliance was founded in 2006 to inspire and cultivate citizen activism. Initially, the organization provided new media and blogger training to free-market activists to help them effectively communicate online. It also launched three Wikipedia-style websites (Judgepedia, Ballotpedia, and Sunshine Review) so people could learn and engage in the conversation about issues affecting personal and economic freedom.[1] SAM also helped launch American Majority to train potential candidates for public office and campaign organizers, and the Franklin Center for Government and Public Integrity, which helps train and place investigative journalists.[2]


Could Sam Adams Alliance be switching sides just to disrupt the US Government? They were heavy in the Tea Parties are they now playing the other side Occupy Wall Street? If you just want unstable government its the perfect game to play Left and Right and now Rich and Poor while the Elite laugh at every body involved. They see Rupert Murdoch and News Corp falling apart. They see Koch Brothers and the Tea Party falling apart. They see the Right Wing bloggers falling apart. So I guess changing sides to the popular stance would allow the Corporation to carry on.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 06:35 AM
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Ah, the old Soros is a Nazi collaborator bs.... Do you guys never get tired of spouting that sort of mindless stupidity? Soros saved his own life and many other lifes by pretending to not be jewish at the age of 13, I guess you would just march up to the gas chamber, right?

And slamming the guy just for being jewish is really acctual antisemitism, unlike criticism of Israel.

And the small crumb he has donated to charity is in reality 8 billion dollars... Ofcourse that is just crums compared to the charity the US war machine spends on "liberating" opressed people.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 06:42 AM
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Yeah the Balkans was doing great before Soros..... Just look at Romania under Ceausescu, it was all rosy wasn't it.....


I mean Soros must have been real evil to want to help the people get rid of that great guy.

If you think believing in everything that fits your agenda and forgetting reality constitutes thinking for yourself I then it is obvious you belong in the same narrow box as boondock. Good luck with that



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