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What Is The Coherent Message and Who Is Leading "Occupy Wallstreet"?!

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posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 03:51 AM
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Well, the question I have for both you and Krok is do you support the World Heritage Federation and it's program of claiming sites at the major National Parks as World Heritage sites?




posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 03:53 AM
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A leader is best when people barely know he exists when his work is done his aim fulfilled they will say: we did it ourselves.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 03:57 AM
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Is there a reason why we should be opposed to that?



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 04:05 AM
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Originally posted by links234
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
 


Is there a reason why we should be opposed to that?


Well, you just answered my question.


www.earstohear.net...

www.uhuh.com...
www.uhuh.com...
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posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 04:10 AM
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I think you need to explain the conspiracy about the World Heritage Foundation, I haven't heard it before , but would be interested to know. I thought protecting sites of natural and cultural importance would be a good thing?



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 04:27 AM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
 


I think you need to explain the conspiracy about the World Heritage Foundation, I haven't heard it before , but would be interested to know. I thought protecting sites of natural and cultural importance would be a good thing?


It's about our National Sovereignty, to put it simply. It is part of overruling sovereignty by the UN and the World Court. It's simply part of the NWO plan. Not just the US, but especially the US.

I see that someone created a thread for this even at ATS
www.abovetopsecret.com...

ok I gotta rest. Seeing there is a thread on this it could be resurrected if ppl want to discuss it.

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posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 04:39 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by links234
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
 


Is there a reason why we should be opposed to that?


Well, you just answered my question.


www.earstohear.net...

www.uhuh.com...
www.uhuh.com...
edit on 3-10-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)


LOL
Young republican and Goldwater girls Hillary Clinton was a "leninist" in her forming years?
I am certain it's true.
NWO will come any day now, any day now, seriously, soon, not much longer...



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 06:39 AM
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Agreed.


I was also thinking....


Some of the greed was from the bottom up.

Buy a house for 250k and you can only afford 100k?

yeah.

Makes me think of the old sex pistols song "Anarchy in the UK".

"dont know what we want but we know how to get it!"


its all quite pathetic.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by jam321

I would also like to know how many of the people who are protesting still have financial accounts with wall street companies and if they are still buying or using products wall street companies sell.



What choice do they(we) have?



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 07:30 AM
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I don't know but I have an idea how it is going to end.

I think they are manufacturing some "accident" now that injures or even kills some of the protestors to discourage assembly without getting blamed for unfairly, unlawfully and unconstitutionally...silencing dissension.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 07:36 AM
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These protestors are the Vita-Water Party.

Not the Tea Party, and they are young people so I think the Coffee Party is out.
Vita-water or maybe the Red Bulls!

These are the disgruntled Americans Obama was trying to rile up before he was even elected.
What is he going to do with them now?



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 07:41 AM
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Originally posted by felonius
reply to post by jam321
 


Agreed.


I was also thinking....


Some of the greed was from the bottom up.

Buy a house for 250k and you can only afford 100k?

yeah.

Makes me think of the old sex pistols song "Anarchy in the UK".

"dont know what we want but we know how to get it!"


its all quite pathetic.






Wait...I will reply when I stop laughing....ouch my sides are splitting.

Whoa...That was a good one. Thanks!

Interesting fact is that 80% of those low income borrowers have managed to keep that home they could not really afford in the first place.
Any mortgage payment at all is 9 out of 10 times lower than the going rent rate in an area.

Only the poor can afford to eventually pay a 100 grand for a home somebody else gets to own and they can get booted out of and wind up with nothing.

The rich won't throw away their money like that. AND THEY ARE NOT FORCED TO

Funny huh?






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posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 08:02 AM
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We dont need leaders here
We're not communists
Nor socialists

We're only people
Like you and me
We just have enough

So we all decided
To stop everything

The bankers are crashing the economy
Only to fill their pockets
While we're struggling

If you cant see it
i cant help you


So go ahead and flame
because i believe in what people can accomplish
by helping each others

where you see conspiraries
i only see people fed up
by inequality

We are Anonymous
Expect Us




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posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by TheOneElectric
No one is leading. I know, it's a difficult concept to grasp. The older members will tell me I'm naive and have no clue what I am talking about; they will also start pulling random organizations out of their asses and start saying that the protests are controlled. No, the fact is these protests don't have coherent leadership. I've seen, sat in on, and have been around similar operations with some of these groups. These kids grew up doing random things on the internet in a organized fashion without leadership. Ideas are thrown in by everyone and a frenzy of flash debates begin, and a course of action is settled upon. In this scenario we have much of that, along with people being given the go ahead to do whatever they want as long as it's peaceful and legal.

Think of this like a flock of birds, or school of fish. Is there generally a leader? No, those creatures work in a weird way. I may explain it incorrectly, but you will understand what I am getting at. Flocks of birds and schools of fish have no leader or leaders. They move based on the actions of every other fish/bird around them. It's as if they are one autonomous being while retaining their individual movement and mind. These protests are similar. You may not accept it, and you may feel the need to inject conspiracy, but this protest is fully grass roots and without leadership...for now...maybe later the bankers and corporate heads will attempt to infiltrate, but it hasn't happened as of yet.


I quite agree with you on this,people just decided that they wanted to show their dissaffection with a system that exists only to serve itself,call it synchronicity or synergy,but sometimes,very rarely but sometimes,people just know that action is needed and they will instinctively find each other.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by InformationAccount

Originally posted by Shadowalker

The message is clear.

When you no longer have food or money and you need a roof over your head.....there is only one thing left.

Eat The Rich!


They kill you or you kill them - the rules of the game are clear
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Well true. Kind of doubtful they know how to season and cook on a spit though. By the time people accept a new wealth marker, they will have eaten their chefs.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 11:40 AM
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I do not support government ownership and management of property period......sorry to be so hardline, but exceptions breed ambiguity.

EDIT:
Sorry, i thought you were referring to World Heritage Centre of UNESCO. I'll have to look into it before I make a blanket statement.
edit on 3-10-2011 by PapaKrok because: I was wrong



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 11:44 AM
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That's exactly what I am referring to. Thanks for posting. I was groggy from all the revolutionizing.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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Actually, it is. The pentacle adorns many Mormon structures. Its not inverted, as it is a protection symbol signifying the rule of the spiritual over the physical, as opposed to the inverted pentagram symbolizing the opposite. That said, I am a mormon "mystic" or middle path Mormon that stresses mythos over logos and an archetypal approach to interpretation. Kaballah is the basis, as in most mystery school. Ironically, I prefer the left hand path, the sorcery path I supposed, as opposed to the ususal right hand path approach... I am, for all intent and purpose, considered an apostate by the body of the church. I am not endorsed, per say.

My beliefs are completely in line with my actions. Internal locus of control. Self as savior. Radical Personal responsibility. Limited or No government. I don't see the issue really. Besides, the issue isn't what I believe, but who, or what is guiding the OWS Movement. From my experience, directly (not behind a keyboard on my sofa) it is a spontaneous community and the philosophies and principles are springing from direct, spontaneous, democratic processes....almost as if a collective consciousness exists as a binder. I resonate with the organizers. We share a belief in autonomy, freedom and responsibility. We share a distrust of government.

We are not content to start flame wars online, we are interested in change...enough to put our lives on the line for something that we believe in. I urge you to examine your life for this level of ciomittment to anything and make a decision to act on it.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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Who is leading Occupy Wallstreet.....The People!!



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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The people are leading this!



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