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If Satan exists, then his name is Economy

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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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I didn't really know where to write this because it can go in a lot of places...

Take a look arround you, we are basically living in an apocaliptic world right now, riots, wars, famine and disease, and what is the main cause of this?

Money, money drives everything. Money drives people to commit horrific acts that seem to turn a human into what we may call a demon.

If we look closely we can compare the horsemen of the apocalypse to things the economy and money did:

White (conquest) - as we can see there are two ways to inrerpret this horseman either by the wars of conquest waged by the powerfull countries or by the way the most powerfull countries conquer economically other much smaller countries by the means of products. For example Coca-Cola or McDoland's, they conquered the world with their products.

Red (war) - simply by looking at our state today we can see how many wars are waged. Its like everybody needs to have a problem with someone not just countries but people in general ... Most of the time this is generated by money either directly or indirectly.

Black (famine) - take a look at how many people now do not have something to eat because they can't afford it and that is just wrong, people starve to death every day in huge numbers simply because of money.

Pale (death) - how many people die every day because of money just ask yourself this. People die because of wars, diseases, famine or crime that is driven by money in some form or another simply because they can't afford to pay for a simple cure or they can't afford a small meal so that they don't starve or because they were robed and killed by someone who needed money or was just driven by envy because he had a bit more.


Now ask yourself this, am i right? Don't you think that money and the economy are comparable to satan and the apocalypse? ..


Cheers.




posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 04:50 PM
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Nice observations there. So our choices are: follow Satan, or die?



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 04:51 PM
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if satan is the Economy, then God is the people who run it

it wont work.

economy is good

economy is order

economy is progress

but the people who run the economy are corrupted.

a knife is a very useful tool, but put it in the wrong hands and it becomes something else

therefore I do not agree with you



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 04:53 PM
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"Good", "order", and "progress" are all very flexible terms. Although, on the surface, you would appear to be correct.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 04:55 PM
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Now ask yourself this, am i right? Don't you think that money and the economy are comparable to satan and the apocalypse? ..


No, I think there is a big difference.

Satan is the manifestation of religious manipulators who used the "Satan/Hell" reference to fill seats in church and scare people into a controlable state.

Money is the human manifestaion of "God" as we see it. Money rules all and is the cause of much death.

So whats the difference?

Money is real......Satan is not. Therefore money is worse!



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by redstorm
reply to post by RizeorDie
 


"Good", "order", and "progress" are all very flexible terms. Although, on the surface, you would appear to be correct.


and why is that?



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 04:57 PM
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Well this is a rough draft of the main idea i have in mind and i wanted to get the first opinions here. I will grow this idea with time when i can put the ideas into words.

Anyway in my opinion money and economy create unnecesary differences between people, besides that money creates corruption and a lot of mess. Think about it.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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I should have writen it like this: "Satan". I am not religious, but this how i saw it and how i could explain it...



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:00 PM
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Money is not the problem. It is us, the users of money, that have created the problem. We have to be sure they we understand that.

Take away the money if you want, but Man is still the same. We must change ourselves, otherwise there will always be something there to replace "money".

ETA: I understand what you mean. I just think that the problem lies within and it wouldn't matter what we call it. The problem will still exist.
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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:02 PM
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Because "goodness", "progress", and "order" are all counterproductive to nature. Invented false concepts used to "rally the masses to a "cause"". Creating slaves, using others to do what ones self cannot accomplish on his or her own. Usually their causes are anything but noble, also. Though, that's only my opinion, carry on as you wish.
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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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We will find a way to replace money but in the meantime why don't we get rid of this problem, think of the present and not of the future because the future can change even by the smallest actions.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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yes but no but yes but ok

economy solves a lot of the problems. it feeds more people than it starves.

economy creates opportunity.

Sure its not the best idea, but it works and we have been using it for thousands of years.

Yes, economy can be improved especially in regards to environmental issues and distribution.

but if we take economy out of the picture the world will not function. there will be chaos as soon.

the economy is good, in the right hands. but right now, its in the wrong hands.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:08 PM
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For now it does creates oportunities and feeds a lot of people, but i don't think that will happen in the near future.

And just to change a small bit of your opinions i suggest you check the venus project to see that money and economy aren't the only way.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by RizeorDie
reply to post by AlexIR
 

economy solves a lot of the problems. it feeds more people than it starves.

economy creates opportunity.


Naturally people have no need to be "fed". The earth provides, given, millions and millions of acres of natural habitat have been destroyed for personal gain, greed. There are laws in nature. They are not just ink on paper enforced by mindless robots. They are unbreakable, bendable, but unbreakable. The virgin world, is/was opportunity, at its finest. Repeat after me. RAPE.[/I][/B]
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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by redstorm
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Because "goodness", "progress", and "order" are all counterproductive to nature. Invented false concepts used to "rally the masses to a "cause"". Creating slaves, using others to do what ones self cannot accomplish on his or her own. Usually their causes are anything but noble, also. Though, that's only my opinion, carry on as you wish.
edit on 2-10-2011 by redstorm because: (no reason given)


so you want everyone to just sit back, chill out and watch the world go by?

how else can you make the world work if you dont rally the people for a cause?

what is your solution, if you have one?

goodness, progress, and order are the reason you can use the internet today. One man couldnt have made all this, but a group of people made it happen.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:14 PM
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Money is Satan. It only holds us back. Think about a totally new society where we are all peace full and have no felling for material objects only. Our objective would be to learn together as much as we could. With out money to hold us back we could invent amazing machines.
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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:18 PM
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Whether it's money, gold, goats or your neighbors wife, money or material goods are not evil or corupt in and of itself. We are the problem!

You can do away with all need for money but the human element will always exist. That's my opinion and I do see where you are coming from.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by RizeorDie
so you want everyone to just sit back, chill out and watch the world go by?

I want everyone to smile, have pleasure, and do what makes them happy.

Originally posted by RizeorDie
how else can you make the world work if you dont rally the people for a cause?

Nature has a way of, working things out for herself. We're pointless quark like objects to the universe, a parasite.
Humanity is a master of mucking things up while after their own "gain".

Originally posted by RizeorDiewhat is your solution, if you have one?

Enjoy what you have been given. Do what you can to help others to enjoy theirs. All we are meant to do is eat, sleep, reproduce, and poop.

Originally posted by RizeorDiegoodness, progress, and order are the reason you can use the internet today. One man couldnt have made all this, but a group of people made it happen.

Without the internet, the internet would be useless. Modern society has never been needed, it provides us nothing. But, the people who gain from 'the internet', well, if you knew what it was used for; my opinion is, you and everyone else but those people would agree with me, wholeheartedly.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by redstorm

Originally posted by RizeorDie
reply to post by AlexIR
 

economy solves a lot of the problems. it feeds more people than it starves.

economy creates opportunity.


Naturally people have no need to be "fed". The earth provides, given, millions and millions of acres of natural habitat have been destroyed for personal gain, greed. There are laws in nature. They are not just ink on paper enforced by mindless robots. They are unbreakable, bendable, but unbreakable. The virgin world, is/was opportunity, at its finest. Repeat after me.
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you are speaking unrealistically, the economy is not perfect, nothing man-made is perfect and nobody said it was. The earth provides enough, true. but how many of the world population know how to actually survive off the earth today? not many thats for sure and we need to consider that fact here. We will NOT disban the people no matter how selfish or greedy they may be, you know why? because we are all the same, some wake up early, other dont.

economy is what keeps the order.

sure it needs a lot of improvements and as I said in another post, it needs to be more environmentally friendly and more importantly just/fair to the workforce. The economy needs balance, something which it greatly lack at the moment.

The economy is not the problem, and its not Satan. The economy is just the economy. The problem is really the greedy and selfish humans. Us, the people.

Its time we stop blaming other things and look at ourselves. Its also time to stop talking unrealistically, like 'we should go back to the way cavemen lived' and all that nonsense because in reality we have 7billion people to feed, we have an economy which connects the world, and then we all have problems, now until we get knocked back into the dark ages by a apocalyptic event, we should just talk about fixing current problems!
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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:39 PM
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To sense happiness you need unhappiness and vise versa.

I understand you're idea of the world.

But again, its unrealistic and impossible at this moment in time.

In order for your idea to work every human must develop the next level of understanding, trust and love.

Not everyone will think on your level, many will be driven by greed and hate and thus it will start over again.

The problem is not the economy, again its the human race
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