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And PETA wants us to take them seriously?

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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 04:17 PM
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A while back PETA announced an endeavor to launch a porn site. This topic is being covered here. I read that and wondered if they had completely lost their minds. I now know that they have. Here's an article in today's paper: Payback is Hell. They are all warm and fuzzy when it comes to animals. People? Not so much.


A shark-attack victim had to get 800 stitches to close the flesh over his thigh bone last week, and an animal rights organization has released an ad implying the attack was payback.

Charles Wickersham, 21, was spear-fishing off Anna Maria Island in the Gulf of Mexico last weekend when a shark bit his leg. He had surgery Monday and is expected to be released from hospital next week.

PETA's response?

An ad showing a bloodied leg sticking out of a shark's mouth with the words: "Payback Is Hell. Go Vegan."

“We're glad (Wickersham's) going to be OK,” PETA spokeswoman Ashley Byrne told QMI Agency Saturday. “But we hope that after experiencing such pain and fear, he will consider the fact that fish feel the same pain and fear when they're hunted.

"We hope that he'll find a non-violent hobby and that other fishermen will do the same.”


Tell you what PETA. When animal predators go vegan then so will I. I'll even eat the Tofu, as long as it's proven that the beans don't suffer when they are harvested.




posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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These people are complete morons. If they had there way, they would kill every human on Earth just to make sure the ants don't get stepped on by us.

I wonder when they will start protesting animals eating animals?



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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Fish aren't hunted, they are caught. PETA needs to get their facts straight.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 04:21 PM
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www.abovetopsecret.com... thread about it a week ago... yup silly silly Peta the hypocrisy is palpable lol saw you linked to the other story... when are these morons at PETA gonna get a clue?

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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 04:44 PM
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Peta porn site? Ftw!!



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 04:45 PM
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Their remark is rather unpleasant and very distasteful,but mr.moderator,do you know what are we doing to oceans?

If you think biting a mans leg is cruel,how about thousands of sharks hunted just for their fins?
How about making the shark extinct in the very near future?

I am not defending PETA,i am defending sharks and living beings...They literally cut their fins of while they are still alive and ditch them in the water....

If that doesn't break your heart you don't have one



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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One should never assume. One of Mr. Moderator's(
) threads from 2 years ago:

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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Well i wasn't assuming anything,i was just asking...good job for bringing that subject to attention.

It is really sad how much good we could do and instead we only destroy.
And the PETA guys often have such stupid and distasteful campaigns and stuff,and i think that you should love every living being,not only animals,lol.

Cheers,God bless



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:10 PM
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I'd say what PETA did was in poor taste, but then I remember that I'm talking about PETA.

I have no problem with the idea behind PETA (that animals should not be abused). I fully support that. But I can not, and will not support the sensationalism and shear classlessness that PETA uses to communicate their message. You don't need to exploit women to prove that mistreating animals is wrong. You don't have to show brutal images of murdered animals to prove this. You also don't have to kill animals to keep them from being mistreated (yes, PETA does this). If they were to spend half of the money they spend on marketing campaigns as they do on helping animals, then they probably could do a lot of good. But until they completely change nearly everything about their organization, I can't see that happening.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:40 PM
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I absolutely despise PETA. Look into how many animals the organization has killed and the percentage of cats and dogs killed at their 'shelters'. Money hungry jackasses in my opinion. I am typing this on my leather couch in a fur coat while eating a steak and resting my feet on a kitten. I am ALL for treating animals ethically. I just don't think it's wrong to kill them ( humanely ) for food, fur or leather. Mocking human suffering to promote a vegan lifestyle is tasteless ( like vegan food ) in my opinion.

I love the South Park episode about PETA. Short Clip

Also, why was my thread on this removed, and the other allowed to stay open (erm the porn site)? I genuinely want to know and when I made a formal complaint it was never answered. The thread was in good taste and the OP encouraged posters not to make stupid jokes that would violate the T & C. I don't know where else to ask.

Oh wow Intrepid I started a thread on the shark thing too. Here I was really disgusted by it. PETA never seems to get behind what I would call a 'real' cause.
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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 06:01 PM
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Tell you what PETA. When animal predators go vegan then so will I. I'll even eat the Tofu, as long as it's proven that the beans don't suffer when they are harvested.


Ah, so you agree with the PETA message then. i.e. The shark is a predator and you are a predator as well. Correct? The justification that you, as a human, eat meat is justified by a past human history of predatory behaviour. So I don't understand the indignation. PETA is saying by way of illustration that if a person follows the way of the predator - i.e. that the most powerful and cunning entity dominates and succeeds, then other fellow human predators cannot cry foul when a more powerful predator follows the same course.

Also by way of illustration they are saying: "Do you feel sympathy for this human victim of shark attack?" (naturally the answer would be yes, of course) then: "Why do you not feel sympathy for the animals who are butchered for a diet that is not necessarily compulsory?"

What PETA is trying to achieve really is just a preliminary step - the conscious change of diet is just a primer really. The hopeful direction really is that human beings can transform their nature from the primitive predatory origins to a non-predatory life-form. It is an experiment really, and probably one on which the survival of our species may well depend. So don't be so hard on them guys, they are trying at least.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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edit on 2/10/11 by RainbeauBleu because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 06:15 PM
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Ah, so you agree with the PETA message then. i.e. The shark is a predator and you are a predator as well. Correct? The justification that you, as a human, eat meat is justified by a past human history of predatory behaviour. So I don't understand the indignation. PETA is saying by way of illustration that if a person follows the way of the predator - i.e. that the most powerful and cunning entity dominates and succeeds, then other fellow human predators cannot cry foul when a more powerful predator follows the same course.


Wait...so, if humanity collectively eschews eating meat and all adopt a vegan life style, then when a shark attacks a human we get to cry foul? Will there be an actual referee crying foul? Shall we call their team, or gang, The Sharks, and call our team, or gang, The Jets? If The Sharks attack a human vegan will the referee throw down a flag, and will this mean a reduction in leagues for The Sharks, or a reduction in points? What will the rules be when the human team consists of only vegans?



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 08:49 PM
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We do realize that sharks are not the same kind of predator as humans are, yes? That they taste by biting, before deciding whether or not it's decent food or not, yes?

That a shark's tasting can tare off a limb or sever a body into two and very well kill a person is not out of malice, it's a dang shark taking a nibble at something that seems to be food in its mind. Then usually it is like, "gosh darn it, another filthy human! i hate human! and swims away. Totally different than say a hunter hunting for pure sport. Shoots a fawn, and leaves it for dead.

PETA's focus is off, way off. There are so many other things to fight for... Can we say the brutal slaughter of dolphins in Japan???



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 08:51 PM
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What's next PETA endorsed cannibalism?



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 11:19 PM
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It is all such rubbish...we as humans aren't and never were "Herbivores" we have always been omnivorous if not out right opportunists...we require a broad range of diet and are well suited for such...we come from hunters and gatherers...who ultimately dominated this planet through those very means. We have not evolved to be any different through any physical changes in our digestive tracts... yes and we even survived the cold by using the skins of the animals we consumed...we are no different now.

And like one poster stated...where do we draw the line on which species we exploit for our food source...does a . of lettuce have feelings...maybe on some level, who is to say. Does it hurt to be yanked from the ground by some man made machinery, and sliced up mercilessly in some factory, so we can enjoy a good salad.

Or should we all just freaking starve to death so no species is exploited for food...Let Peta's members be the first to starve to show us the way to enlightenment...

In the mean time my steak is done...and I am sorry for the poor cotton plant that had to endure all it's pain for the jeans I am wearing but I for one (though I like to be naked too...) must wear clothes out in public or risk being arrested.

and if forced with starvation would probably even kill and eat the family dog. I of course being civilized draw the line of consumption just this side of cannibalism. most other living entities on this planet are in my oppinion fair game when it comes to the survival of man.

Thank You...happy eating



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 01:46 AM
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The shark is a predator and you are a predator as well. Correct?

Correct. I agree with you that it is well to remember this, and to realize what it implies.


What PETA is trying to achieve really is just a preliminary step - the conscious change of diet is just a primer really. The hopeful direction really is that human beings can transform their nature from the primitive predatory origins to a non-predatory life-form. It is an experiment really, and probably one on which the survival of our species may well depend.

If our survival as a species depends on changing our fundamental nature, we will not survive. This is true not just semantically – because such a fundamental change would mean we had become a different species of animal – but also pragmatically, because our nature is something that, try as we might, we will never change. It is possible to change people’s behaviour over time through conditioning, but our fundamental nature is adamantine. Predators we are, and predators we shall remain, even if we never eat another sausage.

Oh, and peta.xxx doesn’t exist.


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posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 05:44 PM
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That's actually true from what I've read. We are not "high fat content". Which sharks need. We splash like, say, otters but we are much skinnier. It takes more energy to eat a human than they get back in energy to their bodies. Kind of like us eating celery. The problem with the exploratory bites is that we bleed out from it. Not from getting eaten. Remember, Jaws was just a movie. A good one but still a movie.



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid


Tell you what PETA. When animal predators go vegan then so will I. I'll even eat the Tofu, as long as it's proven that the beans don't suffer when they are harvested.


Hey person, there's no need for humans to eat meat, so just keep toeing your nice safe cruisy line while ignoring the despicable treatment of animals by people. any excuse rather than confronting the fact that YOUR habits are leading towards the needless pain and suffering of animals.

You might find that your stools smell less and you feel healthier. Tell you what, go without meat for just one week and see how you feel, but I bet you won't because you will use any means whatsoever to justify your addiction.
edit on 3-10-2011 by aorAki because: changed "idiot" to "person"



posted on Oct, 3 2011 @ 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by Domo1
I am typing this on my leather couch in a fur coat while eating a steak and resting my feet on a kitten. I am ALL for treating animals ethically. I just don't think it's wrong to kill them ( humanely ) for food, fur or leather. Mocking human suffering to promote a vegan lifestyle is tasteless ( like vegan food ) in my opinion.




But it's o.k. to mock animals?

Humans are animals, by the way....

Tasteless? You obviously haven't tried it and are just spouting the same tired old story as a justification to keep eating your meat.
People have plenty of voices, whereas animals (of the non-Human variety) have few, and those few get derided straight off the bat, no matter their methods, such is the anger-inducing product of a carnivourous diet.



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