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Originally posted by supermanning
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
I have always pondered this idea because if we remember correctly, the israelites wandered in the forests for 40 years until they had reached the promised land. Now if one was to walk from egypt to say Illinois or Iowa, how long would that take? While in the promised land protected by the one and only true supreme being, they remained untouched by outside influences and lived a life that was not only beneficial to themselves but also to the earth. They had a life that didn't require consuming in the sense that virtually nothing was wasted. Then white man, came along and took it away from them. I also believe that some words in indian cultures sound exactly like the supposed vocalization of the tetragrammaton. "In English it appeared in William Tyndale's translation of the Pentateuch ("The Five Books of Moses"), published in 1530 in Germany, where Tyndale had studied since 1524, possibly in one or more of the universities at Wittenberg, Worms and Marburg, where Hebrew was taught. The spelling used by Tyndale was "Iehouah"; at that time, I was not distinguished from J, and U was not distinguished from V. The original 1611 printing of the Authorized King James Version used "Iehovah". Tyndale wrote about the divine name: "IEHOUAH [Jehovah], is God's name; neither is any creature so called; and it is as much to say as, One that is of himself, and dependeth of nothing. Moreover, as oft as thou seest LORD in great letters (except there be any error in the printing), it is in Hebrew Iehouah, Thou that art; or, He that is."" -tetragrammaton in wikipedia.
Now if one is to say Iehouah, what does that sound like? does it not sound awfully close to Iowa? I find this theory incredibly interesting. Also, American native american's physically look similar to carvings and statues of ancient egyptians.edit on 2-10-2011 by supermanning because: (no reason given)edit on 2-10-2011 by supermanning because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Ironclad
reply to post by Atzil321
Isn't this the way with all religions...
The world is only ever as old as the civilization that starts the religion...lol
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
I found a link that describes how natives americans had egyptian carvings that were found in the deserts of new Mexico and Arizona, and Colorado. Could it be that the Lost tribe of Gad found their way into american via the Beringian land bridge? Evidence suggests that it was possible it could have happened as the native americans claim that they belonged to the "first nation's people". How do the southwestern and northwestern native tribes end up with egyptian carvings when there were no established trade routes in those times between the 2 continents?
edit on 2-10-2011 by lonewolf19792000 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by Byrd
Wow way to torpedo my discussion. No point trying to continue your esteemed knowitallness, i bow to your expertise!
Originally posted by FloatingGhost
reply to post by kimish
Jeez, even if there was more than one body of water called red sea, the one Moses supposedly crossed is the one we know today. It is not, or SHOULD NOT, be up to debate. The red sea referred to in the bible is the red sea of today...no factual evidence should have to be provided here...Wikipedia...google...encyclopedia brittanica...get a clue n move on. Better yet get an education. It was a long time ago but not really THAT long ago. There are Sumerian texts older than the Moses story...it is within written history.
Sometimes think what would God do .....
Originally posted by Hanslune
reply to post by The time lord
Sometimes think what would God do .....
I would have worked on my ability to communicate - this omnipotent being is completely inept at communicating their intent or purpose - a problem it would have known before it began, instead of simple communications you have tens of thousands (plus) of different views of its view point. The problem with the god theory is that its endless errors point to a less than omnipotent intelligence - mankind
But we seem to be straying into philosophy and religion instead of the purpose of the forum
edit on 3/10/11 by Hanslune because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
Mormons claim that a lost tribe in here in the new world, and at some point some of their followers took to creating those "Israelite" signs in the American southwest.
The Mormon Church and the Lost Tribes of Israel
For many years, the Mormon Church has claimed that Native Americans were the descendants of one of the lost tribes of Israel that migrated to the Americas around 600 B.C. In addition, according to Mormon doctrine, this tribe divided into two groups, the Nephites, who were whites, and the Lamanites, who became black as a punishment for worshiping idols.
However, DNA tests have contradicted the teachings of the Mormon Church. In an article written by William Lobdell and published in the Los Angeles Times on February 16, 2006, Lobdell said that the Mormon Church has disregarded DNA evidence as irrelevant.
Bedrock of a Faith Is Jolted
DNA tests contradict Mormon scripture. The church says the studies are being twisted to attack its beliefs.
Is The Mormon Church stuck with an embarrassing book it cannot historically support?
Mormons grow up with the belief that Native Americans are somehow related to a lost tribe from Israel. That tribe, they are told, came across the ocean about 600 B.C. to America, led by an otherwise unknown Jewish prophet named "Lehi."
To a Mormon this story is history, but to historians it is simply a fiction, concocted by Joseph Smith within his "Book of Mormon." The complete lack of any objective archaeological or historical proof to support such a story is explained away by Mormon apologists to the faithful. Mormons appear to believe that faith, makes fiction fact. But archaeologists, linguists and genetic experts, outside the subculture of Mormonism, have known for some time that Native Americans actually originated from Asia and not Israel.
Science and faith have increasingly collided as the Mormon religion continues on from its early beginnings. Confronted by historical evidence that repeatedly disproves their holy book, Mormons have long hoped for some artifact or research that would support their faith. Some felt that day might have indeed come through research at The Mormon Church-owned Brigham Young University in Provo, where genetic tests were being done during 2000.
And the Mormon faith has been doing a lot of genetic testing - with increasing desperation. As to those Israelite/Hebrew carvings in the Americas (allegedly from this "lost tribe") - that was the handiwork of early Mormons, trying to hoodwink other Mormons into believing this book was based on history and not the writings of Joseph Smith.
The Yana Rhinoceros Horn Site (Yana RHS) is located on the Yana river in the Arctic Circle of northeastern Siberia (70 degrees north). At ca. 28,000 years old, Yana RHS is the oldest known human occupation within the Arctic Circle to date; the next oldest widely accepted site discovered so far is Berelekh, at 13,000-14,000 years ago.
Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
They went to Turkey man, and modern day Iraq! You really think they were the American Indian?edit on 3-10-2011 by Donkey_Dean because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by vedatruth
The Pheroah was considered a living god by the Egyptians, somebody far superior to them, and thus having power over them without question.
But did Pheroah have any real power?
There were many temples in Egypt and many thousands of priests. There was an elaborate hierarchy to this priestdom, with a high priest sitting in the court of the King.