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100,000 rally against austerity in Portugal — in pictures

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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 06:14 AM
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100,000 rally against austerity in Portugal — in pictures


roarmag.org

Tens of thousands of people rallied in Portugal Saturday against the government’s austerity measures... amid projections that the economic situation was far worse than expected.

Government and private sector workers demonstrated in Lisbon and Porto following a call by the country’s largest trade union federation to speak out against policies it says threaten “jobs, workers, pensions and social rights.”

Rally organisers claimed 130,000 people demonstrated in Lisbon & 50,000 turned out in Porto.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 06:14 AM
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Things are rapidly hotting up in Portugal. It is worth noting that last Wednesday off-duty officers joined the protests:


Off-duty Portuguese police pressing for a pay rise have marched through Lisbon, jostling with on-duty officers guarding the Finance Ministry.

Police and many other state employees are angry about a public-sector pay freeze enacted by the center-right government to reduce Portugal's unsustainable debt load.

Portugal had to ask for a euro78 billion ($106 billion) bailout earlier this year to avoid bankruptcy. In return, it agreed to a raft of austerity measures.

The country is yet to witness the street violence seen in Greece, which also needed a financial rescue.

More than 1,000 off-duty police staged a protest march Wednesday and tried to force their way into the Finance Ministry.

A line of riot police forced them back in a tense standoff before the protesters dispersed.

Source: www.businessweek.com...

Does that put the following into context, perhaps? -


In related news, JP Morgan recently donated the largest gift in their history of $4.6 million to the NYPD. New York City Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly sent CEO and Chairman Jamie Dimon a note expressing "profound gratitude" for the company's donation...

Source: www.in5d.com...

Be that as it may, it certainly looks like events in Portugal are taking on a new intensity.






(Further pictures via link below)





roarmag.org
(visit the link for the full news article)

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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 08:13 AM
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And it spreads. This is going Global. Lets just hope there is not the amount of violence between protesters and the police, as we have witnessed, in Greece. I wish them luck on their protests



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 09:00 AM
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If or when the time comes for "austerity measures" in the US then let's just do it peacefully, cheerfully, and quietly. Putting down protests and riots would just be feeding the system. A move to self-sustaining independence and non-consumerism would put the fat cats in their place and maybe wealth would find naturally more equal levels of distribution.

Of course these measures target certain sectors before others and it takes time for the broad effects to be felt throughout the populace, not everyone would be on-board at the same time. There is always that callous "I got mine so tough luck, buddy" factor. We'll be taken down group-by-group so there will be the majority dissing the activists who could maybe make a difference early-on until it is too late and everyone else is taken out by the tsunami.

Could never happen in America though.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 09:14 AM
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The situation is complex, because at this stage of the game austerity is the only sensible way forward in many countries.

Yet you can only sympathise with people who ask 'Why have investment banks been given almost limitless bailouts (i.e. hundreds of billions), with the people the governments are supposed to be representing (many of whom have lost jobs and homes) expected to pay for it?'

Therefore I don't think it is the austerity measures per se that are at the root of the protests — rather the injustices that have made them necessary. In that sense it is not difficult to see people coming together, whether or not they are amongst those most affected by austerity.


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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 09:32 AM
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After the nations involved dip into the future generation of their populations they don't want the populations to find out how much they have been robbed, so "Austerity", is the way that the governments try to hide how much they are financially in trouble.

But you notice that this nations have not problem taking their citizens money to bailout themselves and the central banks that are the ones that has created the financial crisis.

US is not different, in the US our SS is been depleted, our Medicare also and lord and behold I wounder how many of the companies that hold retirement accounts for their employees has been dipping into the honey pots to keep afloat.

People, when the crap hit the fan many will be left with their mouth wide open about the doings of the companies, financial institutions and government affairs that will leave most people penniless and with "Austerity measures"

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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 10:19 AM
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these protests, and the occupy wall street protests...they're all going to turn violent once they realize that the government and big banks/corporations aren't going to change.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 10:53 AM
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When that happen, let the revolution Begin, perhaps that is what will take to change Aemricas.




posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by pause4thought
reply to post by Erongaricuaro
 


The situation is complex, because at this stage of the game austerity is the only sensible way forward in many countries.

Yet you can only sympathise with people who ask 'Why have investment banks been given almost limitless bailouts (i.e. hundreds of billions), with the people the governments are supposed to be representing (many of whom have lost jobs and homes) expected to pay for it?'

Therefore I don't think it is the austerity measures per se that are at the root of the protests — rather the injustices that have made them necessary. In that sense it is not difficult to see people coming together, whether or not they are amongst those most affected by austerity.


edit on 2/10/11 by pause4thought because: typo


Im sure glad everyone is buying the rigth winged programs of social darwinism.

I wll never stand up and support any tea party tax evaders who think they shouldn't create equality when the fasicsts for them and they want freedom.

Freedom from this system but will recreate all its ugly principles.

I belive in complete 100% equality of all people on earth, who volunteer but are not forced into labor and help everyone who is less fortunate,ie health, age, maternity and young children to 100% equality wiht them in terms of all goods.

That everyone has beauty, prosperity and a home.

That hte ethics of volunteering to maintain high CLEAN AND ETHICAL technology and socieity be taugth all children in school.

I don't support any PLANNED AUSTERITY BY ILLEGAL THEIVES AND SLAVERS JUST CREATING THEIR REGIME CHANGE!

And NO IM NOT CONSERVATIVE. I don't consider anything in this world, be it political, economic, religious, philosophical to be like unto Christ and the early Christians: FREE AND EQUAL.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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Topple all pyramid schemes. Turn them upside down to true equality and prosperity to all people, and only have a good volunteering work force, because there are no slaves to make rich elite's project shine and their banks grow bigger.

And NO ONE OWNS THE LAND AND RESOURCES. THEY BELONG TO ALL!
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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by Unity_99

Originally posted by pause4thought


Im sure glad everyone is buying the rigth winged programs of social darwinism.

Actually here in the US, it is the left wing who believe in Social Darwinism and socialism. But we should not confuse socialism with Socialist ideology.

Socialism is really a concern for social issues.



I wll never stand up and support any tea party tax evaders who think they shouldn't create equality when the fasicsts for them and they want freedom.


The tea party does not now nor has it ever espoused inequality. There are black people and Hispanic people who are in the tea party.

The Republican Party believed in Abolition.



I belive in complete 100% equality of all people on earth, who volunteer but are not forced into labor and help everyone who is less fortunate,ie health, age, maternity and young children to 100% equality wiht them in terms of all goods.

That everyone has beauty, prosperity and a home.


Most all Americans believe that across the board, whether Right or Left. The media tells you different because they want the rest of the world to think that Obama was a race issue, when there have been many candidates who were black, Jewish and other races and religions. Even Bobby Jindal, governor of Louisiana, has parents from India but he is Republican (right wing).



That hte ethics of volunteering to maintain high CLEAN AND ETHICAL technology and socieity be taugth all children in school.


Those things are already taught in our schools.


FREE AND EQUAL.


That is exactly what Americans do want. But sadly the media will only tell you part of it.
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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 11:20 AM
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That's not our style.


Also, this rally was organised (as most are) by a trade union, so the possibility of something unexpected happening is very slim, they know how to organise these things.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by ArMaP
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That's not our style.


Also, this rally was organised (as most are) by a trade union, so the possibility of something unexpected happening is very slim, they know how to organise these things.


I agree, we are able to have protests that do not descend into rioting. When we had the Million Man March, there was no rioting.

I want to know this, for those who approve of rioting, how would they feel if it were their car that was damaged or their house that set on fire?



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by ArMaP
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That's not our style.


Also, this rally was organised (as most are) by a trade union, so the possibility of something unexpected happening is very slim, they know how to organise these things.


I agree, we are able to have protests that do not descend into rioting. When we had the Million Man March, there was no rioting.

I want to know this, for those who approve of rioting, how would they feel if it were their car that was damaged or their house that set on fire?



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by pause4thought
Be that as it may, it certainly looks like events in Portugal are taking on a new intensity.
Not really, we are used to rallies and demonstrations like that from time to time, few (if any) governments have been demonstration-free.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 11:40 AM
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yes. it's the logical sequence of events. once these protests are ignored because they are peaceful, the only two options are for the protesters to go home, or start something.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 12:05 PM
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...this rally was organised (as most are) by a trade union, so the possibility of something unexpected happening is very slim, they know how to organise these things...



we are used to rallies and demonstrations like that from time to time, few (if any) governments have been demonstration-free.


It seems the people of Portugal serve as a real example of how to go about such things. Nice going.

But is it common to have 130,000 on the streets of the capital & tens of thousands in Porto?



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by pause4thought
But is it common to have 130,000 on the streets of the capital & tens of thousands in Porto?

May 29, 2010 - 300,000 in Lisbon
March 13, 2009 - 200,000 in Lisbon
June 5, 2008 - 200,000 in Lisbon
March 2, 2007 - 120,000 in Lisbon

That trade union federation is the biggest in Portugal and is connected to the Communist party (the other one is connected to the Socialist party). The Communist party was against Portugal being part of the EU and have not been part of any government since 1974 or 1975 (just after the bloodless Carnation Revolution), so they use all opportunities to protest against any government, and they haven't problems in getting all that people, specially if the weather is good.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 12:49 PM
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I'm not really sure what people expect. In times of plenty people don't pay attention, but the minute things start to get a little rough they go for the throat. I'm not defending these governments for taking advantage of the general non-thinkers and apathetic masses, but there comes a point in time when people have got to take responsibility for being politically void.

As for violence and "revolution", the talk of it makes me sick, especially in America and I personally scorn those who actually WANT it. What a massive load of garbage advocating real revolution, violent or not. Sadly, most of those who openly or secretly yearn for it are in my corner politically.

Have you taken the time to actually gauge the knowledge or political makeup of this nation? It's terrible, especially when coupled with religious people who are poorly educated politically and theologically. This crusade to "wake people up" will make you weary and do nothing.

Peace
KJ



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 01:25 PM
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Sadly history tells another story, it is in the make over of nations for "revolution" to grow and flourish when the nations governments stop "servicing" the people and service "special interest", that is what is going right now no only in the US but globally, governments are convering their mistakes, using words like "stimulus and bailouts" to plunder future generations of their wealth, to support big interest.

Economies are dying, this will only affect the populations not the ones that hold the wealth, so it will be very silly to say that revolution will not happen eventually.



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