Sexuality is not a choice, you don't choose your attractions

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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 01:55 AM
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reply to post by Southern Guardian
 


lol I love how you say that relationships would be meaningless look at how our society behaves and the high rates of divorce over the last couple years.

agreed on the complexity...but could it be explained with a more philosophic approach,

*possibly just decadence; the old saying of you know how to work your own equipment best

*or is it indulging in ones own (same) gender admireing what sex you are through another.






posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 02:10 AM
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I have a tendancy to be attracted to everyone in way, maybe I'm bisexual, pansexual.....who knows but I should shag a girl well as I could shag a good bloke.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 02:29 AM
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A conversation I had one day:

Me: "so let me get this right? you are bisexual?"

Her: "Yeah, I like to keep my options open"

Me: "That's not bisexual, that's greedy"



On a side note: What you do in your bedroom is your business, not mine IMO.
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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 02:58 AM
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i agree completely.children have the right to develop their sexuality in due time and should not be influenced by sick individuals.this has only produced more confused people unable to cope with their sexual identity.i should know i am one.i had my first attraction to a waitress at a bar when i was 6 but due to certain events that unfolded in the span of 2 years i had to admit that i was bisexual just to make the pain go away.after those two years i had girls throw themselves at me from every angle since i was 13 so i just felt there was a skip in time and nothing happened
but those things don't go away.in short,sexuality is not easily explained everyone is different.to me there is no straight gay bisexual there is only people and who people choose to have sex with is their business.sex should be enjoyed by everyone.whether they want to make sex the big focal point in their lives i could not argue with that
although i believe that some people are stupid to lace their every sentence with awesome and k and bye unless people grow up and understand that sex is NORMAL then things will never change.if you feel uncomfortable being hit on by someone that you do not prefer just be kind or walk away.everyone is different to me just because maybe 65 percent of the population is straight doesnt mean they should act like they are above the rest
because of their sexual nature.okay 50 percent of the population.
as for me i have 3 dogs a beautiful women that loves me and satisfies all my desires and that is all anyone should do is find that one special and then GET A LIFE!!!!



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 03:38 AM
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Unless the purpose of homosexuals isn't for breeding.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 03:43 AM
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Of course it is a choice as well as their upbringing, Environment and social influence.

E.g. Some people believe they are vampires! Total BS. Some people swing the other way when they hit their 40's + leaving their kids and wife behind. Are you trying to tell me these guys held it in all those years?

Edit: I'm as straight as they come, I would put a bullet into my head before I touch a guy......Just my two cents.
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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 03:48 AM
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Originally posted by Serizawa
Some people swing the other way when they hit their 40's + leaving their kids and wife behind. Are you trying to tell me these guys held it in all those years?


Yup that happens all the time. The only problem is you are leaving out the part where the person says that they were always gay and just going through the motions. You are also leaving out the part where the ignored spouse has "always kind of known." I am sure you have solid examples though of some people that turned gay. I cannot wait to read them.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 04:27 AM
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No you are right that its not a choice because opposites attract and therefore being gay is not a natural choice.

Attraction is natures way of getting to opposites to come together and reproduce....thats it.
If two people of the same sex were attracted to eachother then please tell me the point of it and what the outcome would be....please?
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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 04:28 AM
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I don't think it's a choice.
I have a homosexual cousin (which i love) and since he was a kid he use to always hang out with the our female cousins, 90% of he's friends in high school were females (which his brother and i loved because he would have many of them over on weekends
) he would do his sisters hair, nails etc...
theirs a line i like from a punk band called "minor threat"...
"Mr. present go away come and f*** with us some other day, Mr. feelings RUN and hide, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO WHAT YOU FEEL INSIDE"



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 04:53 AM
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The whole point of attraction is to go with those who you can breed with! attraction is natures way of getting them together.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 04:56 AM
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I would like to have sex with a good 40% of the Girls I know, being a Christian I believe that is unacceptable though, so I wont.
That is a choice, I am denying myself hitting up these girls, because I believe its wrong.
Sexuality is a choice, I chose not to be a womaniser. Denied my natural desire and instinct.
Yes sexuality is a choice.
I also use to like to take wealthy peoples property, a form of socialism in reality. Of course that was wrong and now I dont steal anything of anybody.
Its all a choice.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:22 AM
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Originally posted by Serizawa
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Some people swing the other way when they hit their 40's + leaving their kids and wife behind. Are you trying to tell me these guys held it in all those years?


Yes, though I imagine many would have discrete encounters. Not so much holding it in as hiding it.

Traditionally, gay men and women have done their best to conform to what is considered normal by society. The thing is that 'normal' has always been defined by religion and now that people are beginning to wake up to the fraud, they are asking questions and investigating the world for themselves which is allowing other to be more comfortable with their natural sexuality.

Such a painful lie of an existence of hiding behind a life-long marriage, even having children, could not be ethically and morally wished on another human being without there being some kind of sick, sociopathic demographic or religious bullpuckey involved - and there always is.

Member edit: The "Its all a choice." guy above this post. I'd like to elaborate that it is not disputed that performing a consensual sexual act is a choice. Whether you are attracted to the same or opposite gender is not.


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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 05:35 AM
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I have identical younger twin sisters. One of them came out to the family last year and everyone was not surprised. I have watched them grow and for as long as I can remember she was a tom boy. Played soccer, all her friends were boys, she never wore dresses... etc etc, we all knew. They both had the exact same upbringing, spending all their time together and are best friends. I don't think she ever had a choice. We all knew long before she did.

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JAK

posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 06:43 AM
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You are talking about choosing to act upon a desire that exists, not initially determining that desire a la 'Sexuality is not a choice'; a different level.

Allow this indulgence: Say we travel to a distant world and are offered a table of fruits we have never seen before and which we would be tasting at random; Before we sat at the table you could, arbitrarily, state that you were going to enjoy some foods over others (say the fifth new taste over the seventh) but would it really have any influence when considered against what your taste buds reported to you upon actually tasting?

If, after testing, you found you really enjoyed the eighth item we tasted, stating that you would not then punch the host in the face and steal all those fruits doesn't equate to you having any control over whether you initially enjoyed it or not, it only suggests that you found it to your liking and are not a git.
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posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by chrissiel123
I don't believe anyone is born gay, but maybe one day science will be able to answer that question. The questions I have about homosexuality are 1 - is it morally or religiously ok? 1 - Is it something that will cause the downfall of society? 3 - Should gay people allowed to be married?


4 - Should those who can not even count to 3 be allowed to vote?



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 09:53 AM
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I havent followed this thread but I had to chime in to say that: The whole idea that sexual identification is a matter of choice comes from repressed individuals that are afraid of themselves. I don't really have a problem with that and I understand the basis for such a decision, where it does become a problem is when you believe that everyone else must make the same decisions.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 10:38 AM
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Yes, people are attracted to all sorts of different things, this is not a choice. The choice comes in when you decide to engage in a sexual act with another man. Attraction is not the same thing as having sexual intercourse, most religious nuts can't do the critical thinking and distinguish between the two.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 10:53 AM
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You have all this media and hype around encouraging kids to become experimental! I guess that answers your question, Just as we choose religion, We choose our sexuality. I can sit around and call myself a bear all day long but the fact still remains that I'm a human being.

What about cases where people are racist towards their own race and claim that they are Caucasians trapped in different bodies etc? All I can is they mind is a powerful weapon and I'm sorry if my post offended people. Like I said that's my opinion and you don't have to like it.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by theingloriousbasterd
Sure, I could see "god" being angry about homosexuality if the human race was dying out and suffering from dwindling numbers, but we are actually in an opposite situation. We may be heading towards a time where we endanger ourselves by having too much man/woman, baby making sex (overpopulation).


But let's be clear.

Homosexuality does not mean the reproductive system is faulty.

Many offspring have been produced while "living a lie". A lie that was necessary to live in a condemning society.

Today through modern technology - - - sperm/eggs can be harvested and implanted in a host body. This method is used by heterosexuals as well.

Today - homosexuals can live free and openly as is normal and right for them.



posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by Heartisblack
reply to post by Southern Guardian
 


I have a tendancy to be attracted to everyone in way, maybe I'm bisexual, pansexual.....who knows but I should shag a girl well as I could shag a good bloke.


But do you have a preference?

Be honest. Do you prefer - if only slightly - a man or woman.



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