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Witches are 'wise' people who learn about energy & how to manipulate it.
Originally posted by dontreally
To clarfy, it should be understood i mean "witchcraft" as the common parlance sense of "manipulation through magick" and not in the Wicca religion sense.
I realize Wiccans are more or less moral people who dont engage(or atleast i would hope) in magick designed to manipulate others.
Originally posted by Ceriddwen
Originally posted by dontreally
To clarfy, it should be understood i mean "witchcraft" as the common parlance sense of "manipulation through magick" and not in the Wicca religion sense.
I realize Wiccans are more or less moral people who dont engage(or atleast i would hope) in magick designed to manipulate others.
Just because someone practices magick does not mean they do it to manipulate others. You are, again, lumping all witches into one basket.
Originally posted by dontreally
To clarfy, it should be understood i mean "witchcraft" as the common parlance sense of "manipulation through magick" and not in the Wicca religion sense.
I realize Wiccans are more or less moral people who dont engage(or atleast i would hope) in magick designed to manipulate others.
Originally posted by Shelbee
Can I just clarify - Witchcraft IS the art of understanding and manipulating the web to achieve a desired outcome. I use the word web in the meaning of web of wyrd. Which is a very difficult concept to get over - think of it as a spiders web intersecting and connecting all life on earth, flora, fauna, mineral and man.
Magic is neither black or white - it is all in the intent. And to be honest you have to be very focused in your intent.
Everybody practices manipulation in a small degree each day. How you judge a comment before you speak it, how you talk to your kids - hopefully thinking before you speak. How you wish them to react to what you say. Can that be called witchcraft?
Little rituals you have - from the rites you preform before going to bed to making coffee.
Originally posted by dontreally
As i explained before, one one side, she is interested in spirituality.Shes always talking about the spiritual experiences she had while living in Ecuador, family members who are rosicrucians, freemasons (down in south america),
Thats one side. On the other side, she doesnt know how old she is (being an orphan in ecuador, she claims she never had a record of what year she was born. She estimates 50-55........Isnt this absurdly strange? almost conartist like?) shes very very strange.. Almost like her entire persona is an act, a show for the outside world, outside her family. And then, there is her conniving nature like saying "Donna said this about you", and to my mom, "Theresa said this about you", until the two of them began to hate each other. She was working my mom and aunt against each other....Why???
Originally posted by Shelbee
I think we're probably on the same side of the court on this.
Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by Ceriddwen
That could be what is going on with this woman, or she could be being influenced by something negative.
She is not an ignoramus.
Before she met my uncle she was into the whole New Age culture popular in the 70s. She gave her daughter the middle name "lakshmi". She comes from Ecuador, where practical magick and shamanism is still commonly practiced. In the inner cities particularly, black magick is indulged in.
She performed rituals before the building of her house. She takes nothing from anyone. She tries as hard as possible to maintain the "equity" between herself and others.
At the same time, she gossips and spreads rumors about what so and so said. She did this between my mom and her sister - who were best friends - and broke their relationship. Only years later did they put two and two together, that she spoke negatively about you to me, and vive-versa.
And lastly, SHES INTO MYSTICISM.
Im not really speculating beyond a probability. It is actually quite probable that she is exactly what i suspect her to be. Such people exist. They live by consciously leeching off others. They do this through sorcery - magick. Something you must not understand very deeply if you think you cant profit from it..initially.
Originally posted by Shelbee
Originally posted by Ceriddwen
Originally posted by dontreally
To clarfy, it should be understood i mean "witchcraft" as the common parlance sense of "manipulation through magick" and not in the Wicca religion sense.
I realize Wiccans are more or less moral people who dont engage(or atleast i would hope) in magick designed to manipulate others.
Just because someone practices magick does not mean they do it to manipulate others. You are, again, lumping all witches into one basket.
Can I just clarify - Witchcraft IS the art of understanding and manipulating the web to achieve a desired outcome. I use the word web in the meaning of web of wyrd. Which is a very difficult concept to get over - think of it as a spiders web intersecting and connecting all life on earth, flora, fauna, mineral and man.
Magic is neither black or white - it is all in the intent. And to be honest you have to be very focused in your intent.
Everybody practices manipulation in a small degree each day. How you judge a comment before you speak it, how you talk to your kids - hopefully thinking before you speak. How you wish them to react to what you say. Can that be called witchcraft?
Little rituals you have - from the rites you preform before going to bed to making coffee.
Psychology would have been seen in the middle ages as witchcraft!
I honestly thought we had left the witch craze era long ago in the 17th Century.
Going to end here before I rant further.
Originally posted by dontreally
Often, the objective of the sorceror who seeks to hurt another person is to create in him an irrational compulsion or complex. The spirit that he creates and focuses on a particular individual is believed to enter that person unconsciously as a thought or feeling. If the person isnt strong minded, eventually this complex will break through his conscious defenses and create what could later become a permanent mental illness.
Anyone know of someone who does things like this?
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Originally posted by dontreally
Certain people deeply involved in the mystical realm allow themselves to become puppets for malevolent forces. They may think theyre getting the 'upper hand', but infact, it always backfires. It never ends good for the meddling magician. It is amazing anyone could allow themself to become so entrapped by such stupidity. But alas, the ego, that pathetic, petty, idiotic force, jumps at the opportunity to play with forces beyond its powers.