US Marines headed to WALLSTREET to protect protesters! THIS IS IT

Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by whywhynot

 

My crediting US marines with the competence and authority to decide what is right for themselves irks you?

I don't give a toss what the government thinks, they are Vets..they have *earned* the right to wear those uniforms whenever and wherever they damn well choose!

If that choice involves saying enough is enough, and going along in support of their increasingly oppressed fellow Americans who are peacefully protesting, more power to their elbows.

I'm proud of them.



And anyone else who claims to love freedom and honour above profit and money should be proud of them too.

You are awfully free with your courage when risking another ones freedom.

reply to post by v1rtu0s0


hey money makes the world go round thats a fact and this world is all about

who wants it
who works for it
who thinks they are entitled to it
who thinks it grows on trees.

yeah stupidity does offend me

reply to post by neo96


insulting others and outrightly attacking their beliefs is no good.Austrian economics is the best capitalist free-market economics ever agreed , and do you support corporatism and fascism outright? Thats what your attitude seems to indicate.

If you are rich you are spiritually blessed by higher and lower spirits.Don't curse others who don't have wealth because spirits can turn things upside down for you.

reply to post by neo96


Actually, we do agree.

That is, if you mean an honest, equitably elected government putting the needs and wants of the people of the country before the interests of a few banks and businesses, then yes, absolutely we agree.

I'm encouraged that you're beginning to accept the human element of the debate, rather than simply the selfish financial one.

To those who want to go to Occupy Wall Street but can't because of distance...

There are also Occupy movements going on in:

San Francisco
Chicago
Memphis
Portland
D.C.
Pittsburgh
Miami

and Many, MANY, more...
www.occupytogether.org...

reply to post by neo96


Not to start anything, but reading your posts I get the impression that no matter what people do, you will find something wrong with it and have attempt to derail it. At the same time, I do not see you giving any alternatives. Now, one of two things, either you are just cantankerous and nothing pleases you or you have admitted defeat, tucked your tail between your legs and just given up. Why not offer some of your solutions instead of condemning everything.

$h1t in one hand and bitch in another and see which fills up faster.

reply to post by USAisdevil


lets see who supports corporate fascism shall we

no one makes anyone take out a loan or work for a business no one makes the buy any good or service from them

those who push for more government control over wall street and business by any means necessary ie fascist means,

the government takes money takes freedoms takes liberites makes you pay them they blow it and then come back for more

failure to pay the government one ends up in prison.

those people who are on wall street and who want more control are the supporters of corporate fascism.

thats what fascism is

so no i dont support fascism. but seems alot of people do are their on wall street protesting and in here.

reply to post by whywhynot

They have the courage.

The protesters, knowing at any moment they may be attacked by those that should be there to protect them have the courage.

I'm sitting behind my nice safe, suburban computer desk typing my support for both the protesters and the Vets that want to support them...that doesn't take any courage my friend.

And, although i know you realise it already...the Vet's AND the protesters are there or will be there of their own volition and free choice. They are intelligent people, who will have considered their actions and ramifications of those actions, including potential temporary loss of freedom.

They have the courage mate, and the wit to decide their own path.

What does buying something online have to do with Wall Street? Amazon started out in the west? Then wall street bought them out, hmmm did they need wall street to keep running? UM NO!!!! They were just like everybody else want quick money and to be lazy so they sold out...which is why sell out is not a term of endearment.

Amazon was incorporated in 1994, in the state of Washington.

source

Last I heard cars weren't built on Wall Street they were started in Detroit:

Ford Motor Company (NYSE: F) is an American multinational automaker based in Dearborn, Michigan, a suburb of Detroit.

Source
And iphones are made in China and the cars are now built in Mexico,
And none of these original headquarters are on Wall St. Furthermore only the trading of their stock is on wall st. Which the trading we could write 300 pages of why we don't need to trade stocks or why the need for trading is outdated and predatory to begin with. How about insider trading? That's just one example. There is also another term for trading stock: It's called Gambling. Gambling is an addiction, an incidious one, and nobody seems to profit from this kind of gambling except the professional "gamblers" who have rigged the system to benefit themselves only in the first place. They can be equated to the original Casino owners in Good ol Nevada where the mafia and Mob all owned the casinos and the games were rigged to benefit the owners of the casinos themselves and if you were caught on a lucky streak they took you out to the desert and shot you, That is what wall st. is. Pure and simple.

Originally posted by flice

Originally posted by Trueman
The children of our children will learn about this in their school text books, no matter how it will end.

The question is... do you want your grandchildren to be sitting on chairs with JPM printed on the back while reading those books? Or do you want them to be sitting in a publicly owned, well funded, teaching from the principle of equality, kind of school?

I want my grandchildren to live in a natural state of freedom, a world where they can drink tap water instead of buying it in bottles, a world with cancer-free food and medicines instead of the big industries junk supported by gov regulations, a world where they don't need to be afraid of the police or medical bills.

But all that is still to far, so in the meantime it would be great to see those wall street protesters win this one in the name of all the people of the world, specially for those jobless and homeless that already payed the toll for us. Nobody realizes how big it will be and the size of the impact it will have in our society, until the moment we can proclaim victory.

reply to post by spikey


the elected government putting the needs of people and the country above anything else

that is so rich i cant stop laughing

the only thing those elected officials give a crap about is their own power and control

sorry we dont agree

and humanity doesnt pay my bills

reply to post by whywhynot


Wall street doesn't play by the rules, why should these veterans? If they want to send MPs up there to enforce some regulations, how about they start with WALL STREET, then move on to the scofflaws wearing their dress uniforms in a protest.

reply to post by Skewed


want a solution?

how about we have free trade? real free trade where the absence of government intervention and let the market dictates success and failures and risk and rewards.

but nope cant have that need to control the evil people which has led us to the point where we are.

you can not legislate sucess and wealth the only thing they are doing is leading us to something far worse.

and please

people think they get the better of me but they never have i leave a thread the same way i come into one.

the wall street protestors and all those who agree with them they way will never work and it has never worked throughout the history of mankind.

their way prop up failures stagnation instead of lifting people and a nation out of the abiss.

you take reward out of the equation forget it its game over.

there is not one person who is going to go to work and not get something out of it and people will have to work

if they want all their free crap because things dont grow on trees.

the advancement of this world was due to someone trying to make a buck alot of them to get rich and the biproduct of that action gave us google,facebook,iphones,xobx 360s and a hell of alot of other crap.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by spikey

 

the elected government putting the needs of people and the country above anything else

that is so rich i cant stop laughing

the only thing those elected officials give a crap about is their own power and control

sorry we dont agree

and humanity doesnt pay my bills

Cunning.

Say one thing and then U-turn to make it look like exactly the other...cunning. Stupid though...as anyone remotely interested can simply scroll back a few pages and read what you, and i have said before in this thread.

Let's not talk about you - your favourite subject any more, let's talk about the brave US MARINES who intend to make good on their oath to protect the peaceful right to protest in the land of the free and the brave, making wave in the den of vipers and backstabbers known as 'Wall Street' shall we?

It is the topic after all, not neo96.

reply to post by neo96

no one makes anyone take out a loan or work for a business no one makes the buy any good or service from them

when there are no alternatives and no marketing what do you expect from the commoner?
secondly check the occultic nature of marketing symbolism and use of sigils. Sigils are used for subconscious spiritual influence.

those who push for more government control over wall street and business by any means necessary ie fascist means,

action ,reaction ,solution.heard of the Rothschild ,Rockefeller ,Kissinger and their merry band of BIS Bankers.
Lets see :
The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it's profits or so dependant on it's favors, that there will be no opposition from that class -Rothschild Brothers of London, 1863

You seem to be one of these.thats problem.You attack the system but yet so dependant on the system favors, not only you but every westerner on ats whether capitalist or socialist.

the government takes money takes freedoms takes liberites makes you pay them they blow it and then come back for more failure to pay the government one ends up in prison. those people who are on wall street and who want more control are the supporters of corporate fascism. thats what fascism so no i dont support fascism. but seems alot of people do are their on wall street and in here..

Yet you are beholden from its profits(capitalists)
As for socialists yet so dependant on the system favors

As for you what are you ? a business class?working class? or a multi-millionaire.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Skewed

 

want a solution?

how about we have free trade? real free trade where the absence of government intervention and let the market dictates success and failures and risk and rewards.

but nope cant have that need to control the evil people which has led us to the point where we are.

you can not legislate sucess and wealth the only thing they are doing is leading us to something far worse.

and please

people think they get the better of me but they never have i leave a thread the same way i come into one.

the wall street protestors and all those who agree with them they way will never work and it has never worked throughout the history of mankind.

their way prop up failures stagnation instead of lifting people and a nation out of the abiss.

you take reward out of the equation forget it its game over.

there is not one person who is going to go to work and not get something out of it and people will have to work

if they want all their free crap because things dont grow on trees.

the advancement of this world was due to someone trying to make a buck alot of them to get rich and the biproduct of that action gave us google,facebook,iphones,xobx 360s and a hell of alot of other crap.

I say again, offer your own solutions.

All I see here is conceptual ideas or redundancy in stating things wrong in this country. We all already know this.
What are your ideas to fix it? What could we as citizens do to achieve the change from all the tyranny we witness daily?

I see no solutions, only statements.

reply to post by USAisdevil


i am for all americans an attack on one class is an attack on us all

people cant see this when one class is targeted by another group merely of how they feel

this is america a constitutional republic where the majority can not take whatever the hell they want simply because they are entitled to it.

we have property rights everything they are doing is going against the very fabric that made this country what it is

sure as hell is what is destroying it.

reply to post by Skewed


didnt look very hard there was a solution there guess it went over your head.

those wall street protestors arent offering any solutions

what they are offering is something a hell of alot worse

I am looking at the live stream now and its getting more violent police are arresting alot of people now.

reply to post by Silend


They've obviously heard the cavalry is on it's way and want to crush the life and soul out of the protest before they hear the bugle over the hill.

If you're going, get moving soldiers!

The public need you now.