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Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by beezzer
Who said anything about giving up, Beezzer? I'm telling you that your goal is childish, naive, insensible, and utterly misses the point.
"Why should I wipe my ass? I can just buy new underwear!" seems to be the basic gist of your argument here.
Fix the problem, rather than hoping to find a way around it.
I am focused on fixing the problem. And it isn't in New York.
It's sitting in DC laughing at you right now.
Originally posted by whywhynot
In the OP and the source doc there are indications that the people are both active and veterans. If the vets are still in the inactive reserve or on active service they are subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Read MPs.
If they are civilians they are still violating federal law if they wear their uniform except in some very narrow cases of which this isn't one. In that case they would be subject to US Code violations and could be arrested by civil authorities.
This would be a big tactical error on the vets part if they did it. By their actions they give authorities legitimate justification to arrest them and one from which they have no good defense. That action takes the spotlight off of their protest. Much better to show up in civilian dress, Tee shirts declaring their former military status and signs are great, and have a legitimate protest.
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by beezzer
We've been trying since the 18th century. Hasn't worked out yet, so let's try something new.
Sorry, Beezer. Your sacred cast-in-bronze cow needs to be brought to slaughter. I know, it's hard, and a difficult thought for you to entertain. But, well, if our choice is between eradicating the disease, or just hoping eventually people get immune to it.. .well, let's just say the latter option didn't work for smallpox.
Just because we've failed to bring honest people to be our elected leaders is no reason to stop. We just need to try harder. Or else give up.
Ad that, good sir, is not in my lexicon.
Originally posted by Skewed
reply to post by spikey
Yeah, well, the TPTB foundation is crumbling.
They are in damage control. Anything they do is to attempt to re-strengthen their foundation. And when we see cops lash out inappropriately, we can see TPTB frantically hanging on to what little they have left.
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by beezzer
Who said anything about giving up, Beezzer? I'm telling you that your goal is childish, naive, insensible, and utterly misses the point.
"Why should I wipe my ass? I can just buy new underwear!" seems to be the basic gist of your argument here.
Fix the problem, rather than hoping to find a way around it.
I am focused on fixing the problem. And it isn't in New York.
It's sitting in DC laughing at you right now.
Originally posted by Partisanity
What does the federal reserve have to do with corporate legislation and wars and stomping on small business' neck exactly?
Originally posted by MidnightTide
I support these people for facing the corruption of wall street - but come on, don't forget the FED and those idiots in government.edit on 1-10-2011 by MidnightTide because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Theprimevoyager
God, I love this country! You have the right to protest.. but we will still incarcerate 500 of you just because we need the scrilla!
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by beezzer
No, Beezzer. You have zero interest in addressing the problem. Because doing so might make you question your own indoctrination. Maybe you've been conditioned to believe that if you challenge your own Randian philosophy, a bomb planted in your head will go off, but, I promise you, that's not very likely to happen.
The source of the corruption is Wall Street. Sure, it'd be nice to get perfect, flawless, incorruptable politicians in office. But while we look for these magical beings, maybe it's a good idea to address what's causing the problem in the first place? I mean hey, we're human, our judgement is imperfect, if our team of teflon elves isn't as pure of heart as we thought, well, there's no reason to leave a strong corrupting influence poised to take advantage of that.