Understanding the World Order - Part I : Global Destabilizing Revolutions

Originally posted by Deafseeingeyedog

Originally posted by sbctinfantry
Ron Paul is a stealth agent, and I know it's hard to hear. It's not his fault, and he's not taking orders. He is just a useful idiot. I want to fall in line and say that agreeing with his policies is enough, it is not. We are an intellectual people, and we must look farther. In order to carry out his agenda, he will need nothing short of pseudo-dictatorial powers. This is where your opinion may differ, and I understand. He is either a useful idiot who will lay the groundwork for the demons to create, or become, a dictator. Whether he really succeeds in becoming president, or dictator is irrelevant because the real goal is revolution itself as a destabilizing force which would create a vacuum and weakness our enemies will take advantage of.

I had this same thought as well. To practically apply what Ron paul wants to do he must be able to Bypass congress moreso than Obama does now, or have the entire congress on his side.

Also I really believe that Ron Paul wants to do the right thing. If we see him becoming a leader for the republican party as unlikely as it may be, we must remain vigilant. Who knows, Paul just might be smart enough to know his position as a useless idiot and is smart enough to anticipate that and use it to a positive outcome.

edit on 10/1/2011 by Deafseeingeyedog because: (no reason given)

yes - that, and you can't vote in change.. lol. if voting worked, they wouldn't have it.

i mean technically, you're a ward of the state - i'm not even sure the majority of the population has power of attourney over their person..

are you just going to wait for 2012, while thousands gather in the streets?

If I wasn't 1500 miles away i probably would be there as a matter of fact.

Currently my position is objective observer trying to see the big picture.

A lot of people can't imagine that this is not a genuine revolution and they're being used to for something more nefarious. We've spent a long time screwing over the people in the Middle East, they don't hate us because our freedom they hate us because our government does whatever, takes whatever, and bombs whoever they want all in the name of democracy.

If someone in the Canada went and killed 3,000 people in Russia and their military invaded the U.S. because that's where this person was, and over 10 years of occupying America they killed over a million innocent people I guarantee there would be numbers of Christians fighting back because the Bible approves it.

Now it's reached a climax and a large number of Muslims hate Israel, and hate America and the sentiment is increasing daily.
Tumult of Arab Spring Prompts Worries in Washington: NYTimes 9/17/2011

While the popular uprisings of the Arab Spring created new opportunities for American diplomacy, the tumult has also presented the United States with challenges — and worst-case scenarios — that would have once been almost unimaginable.

What if the Palestinians’ quest for recognition of a state at the United Nations, despite American pleas otherwise, lands Israel in the International Criminal Court, fuels deeper resentment of the United States, or touches off a new convulsion of violence in the West Bank and Gaza?

Or if Egypt, emerging from decades of autocratic rule under President Hosni Mubarak, responds to anti-Israeli sentiments on the street and abrogates the Camp David peace treaty, a bulwark of Arab-Israeli stability for three decades?

The bold vow on Friday by the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, to seek full membership at the United Nations amounted to a public rebuff of weeks of feverish American diplomacy.His vow came on top of a rapid and worrisome deterioration of relations between Egypt and Israel and between Israel and Turkey, the three countries that have been the strongest American allies in the region.

The upheaval in Egypt has even raised the prospect that it might break its Camp David peace treaty with Israel, with Egypt’s prime minister, Essam Sharaf, telling a Turkish television channel last week that the deal was “not a sacred thing and is always open to discussion”

Now we have communist/socialist/progressive/liberal/corrupt unions/globalist backed protests here in America.

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With most of your writings I am with you. Most of the readers cant see the points you make as reality! Most of them are still living in a cacoon that they dont even realize. The opinion you gathered by your experiences will be understood by people only who has the similar experiences. Armchaired keyboard fighters are nothing more than a bunch of bla bla machines. Therefore you cant expect more OBJECTIVE comments.

We are nearing to those 1930s times again and people still try to stick to a leader and HOPE for a change for their benefits. That will never ever happen. So, because that really never happens, the hope for the weak meeks still there to believe on. Who ever the next president is, (I hope not a woman - even worse) there will be no benefical changes towards the masses. The mob, cattle or the sheeple how ever you call them - they will always demand a shephard to lead them, because those weak neanderthals are incapable of self sustaining and critical thinking, thus they need a pimp in order to be bitchslapped from time to time in order to do things their gods tell them to.

YOU know what is going on and YOU know very well that you cant change it in a way you desire. So, why do you still bother to enlighten "some" people, where you can see that there is no hope for them? I really try to understand this phenomena - why do you need to warn those, who actually doesnt give sh*t? Even if they do, what is going to change? A new president? A new economic law or system? A new social structure? Society is build upon authority and it cannot exist without it. In that system wars, collapses and destabilization is highly needed in order to prevent the "colonial collapse", sounds crazy but it is so! If they really wanted to kill us, dont you think they would do it right away! They dont do it, because that is not the point. People search the answer for a "WHY they do it", but they never question the "HOW they do it"!

Never fotrget, banks have not threaten people to take credits! It was people themselves who took it by their own will, because FREE is tasty, therefore the economic crisis' cause is the peoples greed. Now they get what they have created and I am not sorry for them. They sold their souls to devil and now its payback time. Dont try to wake them up, it is really too late now... just watch and enjoy, because it will be a good lesson for your grandchildren to tell.

Nice post!

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I actually posted in one of the Wall Str.threads that I have felt something very wrong with the whole protest,somehow off like there is
"someones" behind the scenes,with an ulterior motive,directing the show. I don't know why I'm feeling this way...yet.. I'll research tomorrow see what I find.I do understand what your saying...and for the sake of all I do hope your wrong.

I agree there are people with nefarious agendas involved with these protests, but it doesn't invalidate the concept of getting out there, nor will any one agenda succeed if this grows large enough. Pluralism works in funny ways.

Originally posted by darkl0rd
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YOU know what is going on and YOU know very well that you cant change it in a way you desire. So, why do you still bother to enlighten "some" people, where you can see that there is no hope for them? I really try to understand this phenomena - why do you need to warn those, who actually doesnt give sh*t? Even if they do, what is going to change? A new president? A new economic law or system? A new social structure? Society is build upon authority and it cannot exist without it. In that system wars, collapses and destabilization is highly needed in order to prevent the "colonial collapse", sounds crazy but it is so! If they really wanted to kill us, dont you think they would do it right away! They dont do it, because that is not the point. People search the answer for a "WHY they do it", but they never question the "HOW they do it"!

The reality is people like me are called disinfo agents, or shills because everything is about rhetoic and catch phrases. 9/10 people here are regurgitating something they were programmed to say from a documentary, mindlessly repeating the words of others. It is to be expected.

In short, I'm spreading information because information should be spread. The truth is bitter like coffee grinds in your teeth, but it is just as hard to ignore. Get mad, spit it out, but it will persist.

Those knee-jerk responses that tow the party line are like dust, and I am the wind passing through. It doesn't bother me, I am here to solicit information and spread it, most often through private means. This is my bait and hook, so I hope the usual people bite.

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I agree with you, unfortunately, if you dont spread "the news" that the people want to hear, you become the disinfo agent. Today even if you put a picture of a real flying saucer, where you stay beside it, people will still wont want to believe it, because the disinfo is so much spreaded out, you really can not know what is real and what is not. People who can cold bloodedly look at the occurances and think about them objectively, may have the clue how that system operates. For example, people do die daily - be it in a war, suicide, disease, cancer, heart attack or starvation but not to extinction. Children born and children die... so we can not anything about it, that is life and natures laws.

I watched the news about wall street occupation and the most people I see there are the hipsters and yuppies. Especially the ones who already drawn into so much debt that they cant repay anymore. Thats why, their hope is to crush the system for a zero payback. At the times when they were using all those credits, they have not thought about the future consequences and now they await a super hero (aka messiah, superman or new president) to save them from their debt and guilt. Thats why all those protest are functioning very well.

We hear about the countries debts by billions but nobody talks about the total debt of the citizens to theri banks. Even on ATS, those who hate FED or the bankers, are the ones with a unpayable credit debt. Those who have been tricked by the superior intelligences (aka the stupids) have now no other choice than accepting the truth that they were greedy and now no matter what they do they will lose.

Always those who blame somebody else than themselves are the ones whom we have to thank for that situation today we live in. I think it is already too late to inform and spread the news, we are already in the process and there is now no turning back. Only thing you can do is to be ready. I apreciate your efforts, if you still want to go on to write the rest of the information you like to share, I will be waiting for them.

Hey, at least you have one suppoter.