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Understanding the World Order - Part I : Global Destabilizing Revolutions

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posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 01:11 AM
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Understanding the World Order Part 1 : Fabled Enemies, Controlled Opposition

This will be the first installment of a series, and it will continue based on the community's reception of the information contained. Please feel free to suggest, discuss or inquire but understand my main goal is to spread information. These statements are not negotiable, they are not conjecture. This is, to be politically correct, my view so please understand that.

I must first insist you, the reader, understand that there is a barrier of ignorance making understanding this information completely almost impossible. Please, do your best.

Part One:

Fanatic Fringe Revolution
How the West was Won, For Good

In order to completely understand what is happening to America, and the West, first imagine them as third world countries. Imagine that we are not invincible, and full of hubris. Imagine we are all mortal.

I am a combat veteran of the War on Terror. I have walked the streets of Baghdad and surrounding areas and the similarities are increasing every day. I saw blimps and their video feeds over Iraqi cities, monitoring every movement, and a biometric grid squeezing freedom of movement out of existence. Most frightening of all, I saw an AK-47 in almost every home. Sure there were resistors, and we took fire every night continually, but never did the full might of the people rise up to smite us. A small group of highly trained men, numbering less than 25 entered dangerous cities under moonlight every night, and not once did the citizens decide we couldn't be there. Not once did they get fed up with the secret arrests, door smashing, pyrotechnics and gunfire. They never lifted the chains like a massive beast who has been, until this point, content with his handlers playing master. There was armed opposition oozing out of every city, and I knew it every night I entered. A better armed, more fanatical (as far as we are told) opposition force is at this very moment, sitting on it's hands and no one seems to draw the parallel back home. That is truly scary, and I want you to bear this in mind when your delusions of revolution and uprising dance in your mind.

Is it not true that the US has had a hand in toppling the dictatorial regimes in Libya, Egypt and others? Do you remember the Facebook involvement in Egypt and Libya? How about the masses of protestors shutting down cities and acting like an organized entity crying out for peace and democracy? What is going on at Wall Street, right now? Have you read the manifesto posted today, and the similar manifestos presented during the other riots? These are all questions that may be asked in the future, but I assure you, there is one question that will never be asked publicly.

Who benefits from backing the fanatical and ideological movements in the US and it's allies; basically, who is toppling our regime and why? What shadowy power could be at the strings, pulling us into a World War that will redefine the word War, and redraw the world?

A revolutionary West is a weak one. We are about to start slashing a military budget in the middle of what the history books will declare as at least the sixth year of this world war. We are economically crippled, and we are down but not out. We still control the most deadly military in the world, and any war game scenario ends in defeat or total annihilation of both sides. In order to defeat the West and its allies, you must destabilize it, even our government understands that much.

Ron Paul is a stealth agent, and I know it's hard to hear. It's not his fault, and he's not taking orders. He is just a useful idiot. I want to fall in line and say that agreeing with his policies is enough, it is not. We are an intellectual people, and we must look farther. In order to carry out his agenda, he will need nothing short of pseudo-dictatorial powers. This is where your opinion may differ, and I understand. He is either a useful idiot who will lay the groundwork for the demons to create, or become, a dictator. Whether he really succeeds in becoming president, or dictator is irrelevant because the real goal is revolution itself as a destabilizing force which would create a vacuum and weakness our enemies will take advantage of.

Obama had the task of creating the problem by ramming draconian legislation down the public's throat, and sewing discontent among the masses. There is an anger rising and some say they are 'awake' or waking up but a brief conversation will expose ignorance and a foggy world view. These people are a weapon, and are easily programmed for lack of a better word. Eventually they will snap, and the government will have no choice but to crush the opposition because they are unable to admit that it is foreign powers manipulating the strings of the revolutionaries.

To admit as much is to allude to a weakness, and in this time of great posturing, the West can not afford to appear weak.

An armed revolution, or a political revolution, it doesn't matter. The outcome is still a weaker West that can be pounced on like a wounded animal.

I will go in depth in another installment, but to see this a little more clear, look at the War on Drugs. Our troops guard the fields that will be refined into heroin and shipped into the US and other countries. There are a lot of reasons for and against this, and it was eventually leaked by the media. Many questions have, and will be asked, but one will not.

If we have the capability to track movement across the globe, and we have troops deployed at the very fields growing the heroin, why aren't we able to track it all the way back to the (namely) the US?

The answer is that we are, in fact, capable of this and the media doesn't seem to notice. The reality is that the War on Drugs could end, tomorrow, at least for heroin. Would you really have to shut down much more to scare the cartels out of shipping and producing illegal drugs for the US?

With dossier databases, like Facebook and Myspace, it is possible to track the movements of groups planning civil disobedience, protests, riots and rallies. I use the word dossier very deliberately. It used to take thousands, even tens of thousands of dollars, to assemble a dossier on a person of interest and now we do the work for the government. Whether you believe the government is buying the information from these companies who are eager to sell, or outright stealing and or demanding access is irrelevant. You must understand, any revolution that is tainted by these things has been hijacked.

The US is turning into an old western saloon, right in the middle of an escalating bar fight. No one anticipates the shadowy figure entering the room, silencing it. No one predicts he will come, or why, but both sides lose the minute he does.

You are being controlled, manipulated and your masters are much more intelligent than you give them credit. Please remember that when the protests start appearing on television, and you watch the movement evaporate into something trite and cheap. Watch as it is manipulated and perverted into a weapon against the very ideals it set out to protect.

So as this all becomes clear to you, remember these words:

The war was lost long ago, and

Future Sections May Include, but are Not Limited To:

Control the Opposition, Control the Outcome
Redrawing the Maps
Motivations
Method of Control
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posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 01:18 AM
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Talk about a propaganda piece. WOW Do you actually believe all that you wrote or are you a troll who has been sent to disrupt and twist like the MSM? Maybe you can send this to Fox news they will be more than glad it to their clap trap.



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by redrose123
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Talk about a propaganda piece. WOW Do you actually believe all that you wrote or are you a troll who has been sent to disrupt and twist like the MSM? Maybe you can send this to Fox news they will be more than glad it to their clap trap.


You do realize that FOX has it's share by hosting people like Glenn Beck... nevermind.

You're right, sir. I have no idea what I'm talking about and you obviously in your two line reply have it all figured out, thankyou for your in-depth repudiation. I am not worthy...




posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 01:37 AM
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The US had a hand in toppling Egypt. Not exactly sure about Tunisia, but early on I read a very obscure article about how some labor unions were protesting, and I believe it was local Tunisian unions. Their whole thing was about jobs and food. But Richard Trumpka bragged about his involvment in Egypt. I don't understand why people don't see the Union thing in the Wall Street as part of this whole toppling scenario. One thing that is different about Wall Street is that in Egypt and Tunisia, they demanded the resignation of long time leaders, and in the States, Wall Street is being protested. They cannot protest Obama because they ARE Obama. The Unions are definitely involved, but the leaders in Egypt and Tunisia were long term pro-Western. In the case of Tunisia, there has been a trend toward democratization and they even hosted big telecommunicatoins conferences.
Code Pink and Bill Ayers were known to have been in Egypt just prior to the protests there. stirring of the pot much?
When Bush was in the WH we had right hegelianism with the PATRIOT ACT and Operation TIPS, and now with OBama we have left hegelianism with unions and socialism.
Can't we get a break from this?
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posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 01:43 AM
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The thing is: This information isn't presented in a way that is very easy to digest. You do not mention your sources or who has inspired you. You suggest what is obvious to most of us, that something is going on other than what appears to be going on. But you don't get down and tell us what you think that is.

So you might want to consider presenting just one basic concept that you believe is very fundamental to understanding the situation. Thoroughly explain that, and see if you can get any of us on board at least concerning the fundamentals.

For example, I can state in a post that I am quite sure that people are spiritual beings. I can even present some evidence for this. And this will instantly divide my audience into those who absolutely cannot agree with any argument based on such a basically unscientific premise, those who are skeptical but willing to consider it, and those who are sure it is true, although they might have a totally different idea than I do about how the spirit works.

Then someone can decide whether to blow off the rest of what I have to say or check it out.



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 01:49 AM
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Of course the Revolutions are destabilizing. Can you honestly say that the US can continue on the path its on? Something has to give whether anyone wants it or not. Trying to say that the US is not involved with overthrowing Libya and other countries in the Middle East is worse than a horse wearing blinders in a race.. I guess GMO's don't exist and the sky isn't blue either. It is this constant denial of what is going on and who is causing it that has gotten the world to the state we are in now . WAKE UP WAKE UP.



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 01:50 AM
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Ron Paul is a stealth agent


Ya had me interested until you said that. Had to disconnect at that point. Sorry, work with the public and had all the moronic behavior I can take for one night.

Ron Paul 2012 - Our last and only hope.
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posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 02:42 AM
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Originally posted by sbctinfantry
Who benefits from backing the fanatical and ideological movements in the US and it's allies; basically, who is toppling our regime and why? What shadowy power could be at the strings, pulling us into a World War that will redefine the word War, and redraw the world?

Ron Paul is a stealth agent, and I know it's hard to hear...
... he will need nothing short of pseudo-dictatorial powers.

Obama had the task of creating the problem by ramming draconian legislation down the public's throat...


Who benefits? Sorros, among many other globalists and IMF banksters, have made billions if not TRILLIONS destabilizing nation after nation and snatching up natural resources. His organizations have time and again been caught in these countries leading these "populous uprising" which in the end do NOT benefit the populous.

Our own "Intelligence" agencies have been proven over and over to overthrow democratic countries and set up Dictators for who?? us, the people? no! For banksters and corporations.

Ron Paul??? And Obama is the hero??? Excuse me Obama is just another in a long line of CFR puppets doing exactly what he is told. Doesn't matter who's elected president, they immediately fill all Presidential postions (and create new ones) to line with these globalist bas*****. Ron Paul is the first one to run against their plans!!!

Now who are you?

I remember your post:

What would it be like to be inside the head of a right wing radical?

The Constitutionalist, Extreme Right Wing, and those of the "Republic" fanatics of 2010-2011... with the clear intent to delcare war on Wall Street, as if it was Satan himself requiring an excorcism by "Alternative (Non-Journalistic) Media" figureheads.

How do you get inside that head? The simple answer is, cognitive dissonance. That was my ticket inside.

... I have penetrated you, and you will see it as a transgression. You can look up my post history, chat history*, U2U history (*mod + only) if you wish.


Things that make me go: hmmm.....



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 03:46 AM
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I believe Capitalism is the root of our problem.

Capitalism from the world’s banking cartels and global corporations who have hijacked our elections in the United States and around the globe. The powers that be are the people who own these giant conglomerates from around the world; it is these few people who buy the world’s politicians that will do their bidding for them.
The fact is capitalism creates greed the kind that we know is a disease where more can never be enough.

We The People have to want this change and be ready to give up everything to get it, which means bringing capitalism to a standstill in the US. Right now too many Americans are not willing to give up everything to liberate our corrupt Democracy.



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by sbctinfantry
Understanding the World Order Part 1 : Fabled Enemies, Controlled Opposition

This will be the first installment of a series, and it will continue based on the community's reception of the information contained. Please feel free to suggest, discuss or inquire but understand my main goal is to spread information.


Hi sbc,

Might I dare say that many propaganda campaigns are conducted in the same manner?
Very interesting that you say you will continue posting based on the reception of the audience.

And how very extremely interesting that you should cast doubt on Ron Paul so quickly after you
came to the members of ATS and informed us that you had been recruited as a 'disinfo' agent.

You know, your thread you posted here -------> A Conspiracy - Disinfo Agent Is Born.

I really have to applaud the Administsration here at ATS that they let that thread stand,
as it gives all members a basis in which to understand all of your future work here amoung us.

So...carry on go ahead...I dont mean to stop you in your tracks.
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posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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It's difficult to discern exactly what is going on at the moment. Many people have many different takes on how this is to be interpreted.

I'll never forget how David Rockefeller stated that he helped bring about Women's Lib in order to tax the entire population. Not just half.

Everyone has an agenda. I don't want to believe that Dr. Ron Paul is two-faced, but we need to stay on our toes. As of right now, I feel he's our only hope, but I'll be damned if I discover I've been fooled.



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 11:47 AM
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I understand it's hard for people to read, so I'll just focus on one key point and maybe that will entice those replying to actually read the post instead of glancing over it.

Ron Paul is filling a position that is required to bring about a dictatorship, otherwise he will be a lame duck president. I think it's silly how many people call for a constitutional republic and don't even realize that in order for a President to bring that about, he would need dictatorial powers to repeal everything Obama has implemented, and the rest of the draconian legislation that has been passed before him.

If you can't understand that, don't bother reading the rest of the post.

He is not a willing participant, and may not even realize the endgame. I believe he does, and that makes me nervous. Is he hoping it won't come to that? What exactly do you think he will need in terms of executive powers to enact the change the drone like masses are calling for?

I'm recalling the election of Obama and all the open ended promises. This time, it's the other way around. Dr. Paul has a message, and a mission, but the majority are attaching their own hopes and desires to his campaign and will be let down just the same. It's almost the opposite of the Obama campaign. He promised everything, and this time everyone is hoping Ron Paul will fullfill all their dreams.

It can't happen in this country, or we will end up with a dictator, and whether Paul takes advantage of it or not, the next guy will.



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 11:47 AM
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I understand it's hard for people to read, so I'll just focus on one key point and maybe that will entice those replying to actually read the post instead of glancing over it.

Ron Paul is filling a position that is required to bring about a dictatorship, otherwise he will be a lame duck president. I think it's silly how many people call for a constitutional republic and don't even realize that in order for a President to bring that about, he would need dictatorial powers to repeal everything Obama has implemented, and the rest of the draconian legislation that has been passed before him.

If you can't understand that, don't bother reading the rest of the post.

He is not a willing participant, and may not even realize the endgame. I believe he does, and that makes me nervous. Is he hoping it won't come to that? What exactly do you think he will need in terms of executive powers to enact the change the drone like masses are calling for?

I'm recalling the election of Obama and all the open ended promises. This time, it's the other way around. Dr. Paul has a message, and a mission, but the majority are attaching their own hopes and desires to his campaign and will be let down just the same. It's almost the opposite of the Obama campaign. He promised everything, and this time everyone is hoping Ron Paul will fullfill all their dreams.

It can't happen in this country, or we will end up with a dictator, and whether Paul takes advantage of it or not, the next guy will.



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by sbctinfantry

Ron Paul is filling a position that is required to bring about a dictatorship, otherwise he will be a lame duck president. I think it's silly how many people call for a constitutional republic and don't even realize that in order for a President to bring that about, he would need dictatorial powers to repeal everything Obama has implemented, and the rest of the draconian legislation that has been passed before him.


The most effective lie is buried in the truth.

They are indeed creating a dictator position in the President of the United States. They are creating it stone by stone, administration by administration, and it is almost there. All the acts for the President to declare marshall law and abolish congress are in place. Ron Paul would indeed be inheriting this... that is true. They being the CFR who are trying to implement a one world government - not conspiracy folks they have published this over and over!

But he has also stated he will work to repeal these and get back to our Constitutional Republic.

To accuse him for what others is done is ridiculous. He has fought against it every step of the way over his entire history in Congress!



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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So, your whole argument that Ron Paul is a 'stealth agent' is based on the concept
that the only viable way The United States could return to a constitutional governance is through a dictatorship?


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posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 12:07 PM
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they say the next war will be on the mind

nice try but you fail.



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 12:37 PM
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An interesting read, and I agree with many things. One thing I noted you did not include in any detail in either this section or future installments is just "Who are they?" We talk often about the powers that be, but as that means different things to different folks, I'd be interested in hearing your interpretation.

I also tend to see Paul as a safety valve. But the bottom line is if domestic upheaval serves to justify a stronger state, it will be welcomed. The thing about revolutions is you damned well better succeed.



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 12:50 PM
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Would like to hear the rest. I do not know if i agree with you on all points. World as we know it is been destabilized, this is 100% correct. By whom exactly (i think that it is few different parties,not a single group) and for what purpose is hard to say.
I fail to understand why you inserted Ron Paul - he is not the most famous one or the most problematic one. My bet as far as figure head for the movement that will be used to crumble US will be on young charismatic leader (not a politician) speaking rather to minorities and liberals then to conservatives.
Again, would wait for rest of the posts.



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 12:52 PM
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At least answer me this, if Ron Paul is an "agent", why did they mysteriously take him off the ballot last year? Don't you think that it would've been part of the plan or a test to see how many people wanted him voted in?
Also, why is the MSN not giving him any attention?
You would think that they would be pushing him into the open more if it was TPTB's plan to have him take office to do their bidding.



posted on Oct, 1 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by sbctinfantry
Ron Paul is a stealth agent, and I know it's hard to hear. It's not his fault, and he's not taking orders. He is just a useful idiot. I want to fall in line and say that agreeing with his policies is enough, it is not. We are an intellectual people, and we must look farther. In order to carry out his agenda, he will need nothing short of pseudo-dictatorial powers. This is where your opinion may differ, and I understand. He is either a useful idiot who will lay the groundwork for the demons to create, or become, a dictator. Whether he really succeeds in becoming president, or dictator is irrelevant because the real goal is revolution itself as a destabilizing force which would create a vacuum and weakness our enemies will take advantage of.



I had this same thought as well. To practically apply what Ron paul wants to do he must be able to Bypass congress moreso than Obama does now, or have the entire congress on his side.

Also I really believe that Ron Paul wants to do the right thing. If we see him becoming a leader for the republican party as unlikely as it may be, we must remain vigilant. Who knows, Paul just might be smart enough to know his position as a useless idiot and is smart enough to anticipate that and use it to a positive outcome.

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