This isn't an anti Jewish thread ....I have a Jewish background but not an active one....but it has intrigued me for a few seasons now , why the rabidly racist and bigoted passages against non Jews in the bible have not been removed from not only the Torah ,Talmud, but also the Old Testament.

Is this not curious?
I think it is disturbing and evil in fact.

God is not a racist nor a bigot, yet if we read some of these texts that obedient Jews believe in , we would think they are talking about lower forms of life.

I ask these questions in earnestness not hate of any description.

I believe in equality between man ...and I believe God is more moral than I.

In fact why can't non Jews sue for racial hate compenstation ...seeing as many western people had Bibles placed in classrooms and in motel rooms.

Even the new testament has plenty of referncing non Jews as sub standard before God.

Come on lets be frank here, racism is racism, hate is hate.

In God s purpoted books , it is rabidly prevalent.

It actually sickens my soul the hypocrisy and double standards.

Thisa is 2011 not thousands of years ago...or is God eternally racist?

do the words

chosen race

ring a bell, any?

you want people to start editing their bibles and holy books?
not going to happen. People of faith will die to defend their words.

Common misconception that ISRAEL=JEWS. Jews were but just 1 of the 12 tribes of Israel, the tribe of Judah. Anytime the Bible references ISRAEL, it is talking of all the people that worship the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

^ the christian bible's been edited 21 times (that is, 21 versions)

and then theres the mormon addendum

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Who are you? Tipper Gore?

Originally posted by Dr ExpiredThis isn't an anti Jewish thread ....I have a Jewish background but not an active one....but it has intrigued me for a few seasons now , why the rabidly racist and bigoted passages against non Jews in the bible have not been removed from not only the Torah ,Talmud, but also the Old Testament...

Even the new testament has plenty of referncing non Jews as sub standard before God...

In God s purpoted books , it is rabidly prevalent.

Could you reference some of the sections of the bible you're talking about? I won't speak for the talmud because I don't believe it purports to be scripture, so much as assorted jewish commentary, but I'm not aware of any rabid racism in the bible, other than proclamations against some of the non-jews in the old testaments, and those were for stated reasons such as pollution of the jewish faith (belief in 'the one true god' as per the beliefs of those who subscribe to the bible) resulting from the syncretism of the pagan nations introducing their beliefs to the hebrews.

And I'm also aware of plenty of proclamations against the jews themselves in the bible, as well as god saying he couldn't go with them since they were stubborn and he might be forced to destroy them along the way...so despite their status as his representative people, they also weren't honestly set on any pedestals as their own deity couldn't spare a great deal of tolerance or excuse their faults any more than he could anyone else...and had to actively check them on a regular basis as well.

Additionally, there were plenty of cases of non-jews being recognized as righteous and accepted in the eyes of god throughout as well...so I'm going to need a bit of clarity on this, please.

If people edited out every part of holy texts that they didn't like, there would be nothing left.

The Aleph and the Tav, Alpha and Omega, Beginning and End.

30 And Jesus, immediately knowing in himself that virtue had gone out of him, turned him about in the press, and said, Who touched my clothes? 31 And his disciples said unto him, Thou seest the multitude thronging thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me? 32 And he looked round about to see her that had done this thing. 33 But the woman fearing and trembling, knowing what was done in her, came and fell down before him, and told him all the truth. 34 And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.

Dear Dr Expired,

Nice to see you again, hope you're well.

I fear you are treading a dangerous path. Huckleberry Finn, The Song of the South, Little Black Sambo, all gone. They offend. Words removed from polite speech. Ideas that must be held, ideas that must not be held, in order to avoid offense.

Football coaches disciplined; they didn't say a word, just bowed their heads while others were praying.

Dr Expired, I truly admire your desire to avoid causing offense and fomenting hatred. I'm probably a fanatic, don't pay much attention to me, but perhaps you should pay a little?

With respect,
Charles1952