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Originally posted by Human4life
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
I told you, you wouldn't understand. And yet! I still know what your saying but it dosen't belong with what I'm saying to you.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
No you do not.
Really? I seem to remember Jesus saying "I am come, not to do away with the Old Law (OT), but to fulfill it". Stop preaching lies. John the Baptist said Jesus was the living Word made flesh. The Word of God was the bible, or OT the Old Law. Jesus was the Living Law.
You probably remember hearing someone say that, but not Jesus. A preacher, probably, who was presenting his own theory about God and Jesus.
not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
Two things I was objecting to; one being this philosophy that somehow John the Baptist wrote the Gospel of John, second, you added a part not in the verse, "the Old Law (OT)". Jesus never threw in words like that, or say , 'The Law of Moses' when he was talking about the law not being done away with. The OT Law obviously was done away with, so he (equally obviously) was talking about another law that is a fundamental law which the old written law was based on.
Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
edit on 3-10-2011 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
Wrong, two of John's disciple who heard him say, 'this is the one', were standing there when Jesus walked by the next day and said, 'Come'. One of the two was Andrew, who went off and found his brother, Peter. It does not name the second, who we are to assume was the author of the Gospel.
To what law do you refer too? The Old Law is the law of Moses as was given by God. John didn't write his own gospel his two disciples that joined Jesus did, Simon Peter and Andrew because they were there when Jesus came to be baptised by immersion. There was only one Law as according to the Jewish faith and this was proscribed by Moses. The words Jesus preached were the laws in the OT, he came to show men how to live by God's law by being a living example because the pharisees and sadducess were bungling the law because they were living God's laws as according to man. This was why when he saw money changers and money lenders and gambling going on in the temple he got pissed off and kicked their tables over and rebuked them
By not listening to people promoting theories and philosophy, and reading the Bible myself.
Originally posted by graphuto
Jmdewey, how can you just ignore all the proof that OT law is to be followed today? It's like you just dismiss it, and then come up with CRAZY ASS out of the BLUE claims that the OT God isn't God?