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The fact you don't even know what you said that is insulting - - - says a lot. I really don't care. I was just trying to make a point. And you just made it.
I agree that writings are not proof of anything Annee, and I don't have a problem with how you came to your conclusions.. and beliefs..and quite frankly understand where you are coming from..for the most part. I can't see where state and religion will ever be totally separated, as many laws are based on religiously inspired moral beliefs. If every level government would be run by atheists..would we not end up with laws that are still based on the concepts of an atheists morality?
I do agree that taking away the power of religion (though I may word it differently) is probably more beneficial to society than otherwise. However I'm uncertain as to whether this is the reason atheists are organizing.
Originally posted by gabby2011
I honestly don't see how my post above could be considered insulting, as compared to some of what you have posted ?
Originally posted by gabby2011
That quote appears to have been said by me, and it was not..it was posted by traditional drummer.
Originally posted by gabby2011
well..maybe you could try being less insulting , and explain to me exactly how you found what I said insulting..?
Yep. But it fit the current discussion.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by gabby2011
I honestly don't see how my post above could be considered insulting, as compared to some of what you have posted ?
I know.
Christians say stuff all the time that could be insulting to Atheists - - - and are totally clueless to what they've said - - - because basically they are "blinded by god".
I am not clueless to anything I've said.
Originally posted by gabby2011
You're making the assumption that I am Christian.. just because of a few thoughts that I wish to share..
Aren't you the one who said text had no connotation, . . .
Really? This is how you respond to the question: "What is Atheist morality?"
Ethics come from integrity and responsibility. God is not required.
Really? This is how you respond to the question: "What is Atheist morality?"
Originally posted by gabby2011
reply to post by Annee
Yep. But it fit the current discussion.
So..its ok to misquote me cause it fit the discussion??
Good grief.. hope that's not an example of your atheistic morality.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by gabby2011
I can't see where state and religion will ever be totally separated, as many laws are based on religiously inspired moral beliefs.
If every level government would be run by atheists..would we not end up with laws that are still based on the concepts of an atheists morality?
What is Atheist morality? Sounds like you are trying to insult me.
Ethics come from integrity and responsibility. God is not required.
Is this really how you want to portray yourself?
Most atheists say something similar to this. My question then is how did these qualities get there?
Originally posted by sacgamer25
What is Atheist morality? Sounds like you are trying to insult me.
Ethics come from integrity and responsibility. God is not required.
Most atheists say something similar to this. My question then is how did these qualities get there? You truly think TOE explains this or do you have another theory or belief? I promise I ask this not as an insult but to search for understanding. I simply do not understand how one does not believe in some power greater than themselves that has influenced the existence of our morals and emotions.
Originally posted by sacgamer25
reply to post by Annee
Yes but why do we have these morals or ethics. Many of the things we believe to be moral do not increase our ability to survive, they simply make survival more enjoyable.
Originally posted by sacgamer25
Most atheists say something similar to this. My question then is how did these qualities get there? You truly think TOE explains this or do you have another theory or belief?
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
All social species have codes of conduct; i.e., morals, ethics, etc. The TOE has highly detailed explanations of how these are developed.
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Originally posted by sacgamer25
Most atheists say something similar to this. My question then is how did these qualities get there? You truly think TOE explains this or do you have another theory or belief?
All social species have codes of conduct; i.e., morals, ethics, etc. The TOE has highly detailed explanations of how these are developed. Morality does not appear to come from external command, rather arranged bottom-up by ourselves and those around us. We then codify them into laws and sometimes inject them into our religions and stamp our god's signature on them. Morals definitely come from societies rather than deities.