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Obama Calls Americans Soft!

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posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by lpowell0627
Finally, after three years, he speaks the truth.
The truth hurts, doesn't it?


Should he have said it? No.
Is it true? Yes.
Will this be enough to rally votes to prove him wrong? Lord I hope not.

Desperate men use desperate tactics. Chicago-style politics. What did you people really expect?


Really? After 3 years Americans are STILL waiting for change !!!! We all gave up on hope though.
Soft ? Only those who voted for him,and expected their mortgages,and car payments to be made by him.


Saw a poll on CNN today that says 52 percent of Americans still blame Bush,and Republicans for all the ills in this country,the rest blame Obama. I say the poll is wrong. I blame 100% on the current people that are running the show,Republicans and Democrats.

Maybe Americans as a whole are soft on kicking these bums out,when they PROMISE to CHANGE,and dont come through.




posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
How I take it? We are too soft. We need to rely less on government and more on ourselves.

How Obama means it? Rely on government, but we're not going to give you as much. Toughen up.



I wish I could give you 1 million Stars for this........




posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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I'm not American but I do like you guys
gotta say tho everytime time I hear him he sounds so much like a preacher, kinda like the one from "Something Wicked This Way Comes" I'm bustin a gut even as I type this but I especially love when he runs like an athlete
Sorry I shouldn't be bashing the man, I'm sure he loves his wife and kids and he's nice to old people and animals, and whatnot, oh yeah were supposed to be like that.

Seriously I don't think alot of people who go into the political spectrum realize what they are really in for, it's got to be the ultimate ying yang experience on a titerope with no net, I watched him the other day also, going on to Americans to stop whining and tough it up. Feel sorry that he's just been used like the others before, and sorry for the ones that come after, the American people are what created the United States, and I believe in the end you will take it back. I don't have a problem building a perimeter around US and Canada( sorry Mexico not interested) as long as we each still retain our own national sovereignty.

On another note haven't you noticed that most leaders of any country go grey amazing quick, the stress must be horrendous, Obama's has proceeded the most in a short time.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by Sanndy

Originally posted by 13th Zodiac

Originally posted by Sanndy

Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
Remember when leaders decleared war's and actually rode a horse on the very frontline with the soldiers?


No. I do not remember that at all. Remind me.



I take your point,but I think you now what I mean.
Secondline.


No, I honestly do not. Does this mean you meant something completely different from what you said? Is Obama the first president to have a war the he did not fight in personally or are you trying to tar Obama for something all presidents do?

You wrote it but did not mean it?
I really want to know what you are talking about. Obama is soft but Reagan rode a horse into Iran?


You do know what I mean! I am not singling out Obama or any President with this remark.I am talking about gutless modern warfare in general!You know leaders not commiting themselves to war's they start.Instead sending kid's to war to die as cannon fodder while they drink wine and laugh at the peasant's.
There was a time when leaders lead.
Can you deny history to support Obama,Bush,Regan,Sarkozy,Blair,Cameron or any other one of these guttless wonders?
Did Alexander the Great,Nepoleon,King Richard any many others not exist.Stop trying to rewrite history to fit your apparent Idol.You damn well know what I am talking about.

69 Post in 5 day's membership?
edit on 30-9-2011 by 13th Zodiac because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
So Obama, with his girly soft hand's that have never even experienced a paper cut, tell's American's to open a can of harden up! This from a tuff guy who kill's people while cowering behind a desk! Remember when leaders decleared war's and actually rode a horse on the very frontline with the soldiers? Killing people with the stroke of a pen? Now how's that for SOFT!

www.politicalcrush.com...


Dude, when was the last time a leader rode a horse in front of their soldiers in the battlefield??? Generals don't count. They are military personnel. I'm talking about presidents or kings! Well, Roman emperors used to ride their horses in front of their centurions, AFTER the battle. European kings used to ride their horses in front of their soldiers, but during the battle they remained protected inside a defense circle. Perhaps one or another king had balls to fight in the open field, as Hannibal, but all modern leaders are p*ssies who talk loud only 'cause they are behind the protection of an office desk, an army, bunk laws, secret societies all apparatus which make them "leaders". And all leaders, of ANY time, decided the fate of life and death of people, by using a pen. The difference is that in ancient times there was this fashion of being cool among the soldiers by showing up in the battlefield riding a fancy horse and wearing a glowing armor, though in many cases AFTER the battle.

Anyway wars are NOT the best criteria for pointing out leadership. Only warmongers think this way.
edit on 9/30/2011 by 1AnunnakiBastard because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
So Obama, with his girly soft hand's that have never even experienced a paper cut, tell's American's to open a can of harden up! This from a tuff guy who kill's people while cowering behind a desk! Remember when leaders decleared war's and actually rode a horse on the very frontline with the soldiers? Killing people with the stroke of a pen? Now how's that for SOFT!

www.politicalcrush.com...

It might be easier if we all had 26 servants waiting on our every need, to help and assist us, just like the first lady has.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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he's right

the average soft, fat lazy american is sitting around right now waiting for the gov't to fix everything and send them a check

and I'm an american, so I can say that !



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 06:11 PM
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I agree totally, my point is who are these so called leaders to call anyone soft? I even agree with Obama in the contexted of what he said and it applies to all Western Nation's that have become fat and bloated and living on benefit's and so on,not just America.My point is these are the last people on earth that should talk to people this way.It is a slap in the face of humanity while they expect us to die on some distant battle field,from a stranger that has a wife a kids just like us,who we don't even know or have a arguement with.All the while,drinking the best wines and whoring with escort's on our credit cards!

Am I being unreasonable here?



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
So Obama, with his girly soft hand's that have never even experienced a paper cut, tell's American's to open a can of harden up! This from a tuff guy who kill's people while cowering behind a desk! Remember when leaders decleared war's and actually rode a horse on the very frontline with the soldiers? Killing people with the stroke of a pen? Now how's that for SOFT!

www.politicalcrush.com...


Really? You are saying it's not true? The last 3 generations of americans, starting with the baby boomers, are pathetically soft. We can't be bothered to give up our comforts to make things better. We are not willing to choose living within our means over having an Xbox and a bmw.

Americans are disgustingly soft.

I know you are simply trying to make this yet another 'bash obama' thread, but he spoke the truth here, and the fact that you would rather look at who is saying it and attack him, instead of looking at what was said and dissecting it, proves him right.

Soft. Very, very soft.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
69 Post in 5 day's membership?
edit on 30-9-2011 by 13th Zodiac because: (no reason given)


Is that something of signifigance?
Whenever you get around to finally posting that list of presidents riding horses into battle I can properly address this gibberish. Then again, if you are focused on my post count you might need something else to do.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
reply to post by 1AnunnakiBastard
 


I agree totally, my point is who are these so called leaders to call anyone soft? I even agree with Obama in the contexted of what he said and it applies to all Western Nation's that have become fat and bloated and living on benefit's and so on,not just America.My point is these are the last people on earth that should talk to people this way.It is a slap in the face of humanity while they expect us to die on some distant battle field,from a stranger that has a wife a kids just like us,who we don't even know or have a arguement with.All the while,drinking the best wines and whoring with escort's on our credit cards!

Am I being unreasonable here?



So then who should talk about it? If the leaders dont address it, how is it going to get fixed?

Its a damned if you do situation.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 06:35 PM
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Actually I'm not bashing Obama at all.In fact I am bashing all politican's like him,these people can't even ride a push bike
,wouldn't even know how to roll up their sleaves and get dirty.Have you ever seen one of these clown's try to plant a tree? It's bloody hilarious!
This is a insult to alot of hardworking people,who actually know how hard it is to feed and raise a family with out a Golden Goverment Credit Card.
Doe's that put my point in context for you? or am I just another Obama basher?



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by Sanndy

Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
69 Post in 5 day's membership?
edit on 30-9-2011 by 13th Zodiac because: (no reason given)


Is that something of signifigance?
Whenever you get around to finally posting that list of presidents riding horses into battle I can properly address this gibberish. Then again, if you are focused on my post count you might need something else to do.


You and the horse you rode in on

That is the softest argument I have ever heard,hey everyone Obama joined ATS!



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
reply to post by captaintyinknots
 


Actually I'm not bashing Obama at all.In fact I am bashing all politican's like him,these people can't even ride a push bike
,wouldn't even know how to roll up their sleaves and get dirty.Have you ever seen one of these clown's try to plant a tree? It's bloody hilarious!
This is a insult to alot of hardworking people,who actually know how hard it is to feed and raise a family with out a Golden Goverment Credit Card.
Doe's that put my point in context for you? or am I just another Obama basher?


Not really.

As I said before, americans are VERY soft. There is no denying it. You can break it down and try and make it an individual thing, as opposed to a statement on the people of this country as a whole, which is the point that was being made.

You choose to focus on who is saying it, not on the point being said. That means you are focusing in the wrong place, and that it is more about insulting the politicians than it is about actually seeing the real world.

And yes,. you are just another obama basher.
edit on 30-9-2011 by captaintyinknots because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 07:11 PM
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Actually in a earlier post I agreed with the context of Obama's statement if you bothered to read.So who is twisting who's statement's here? You fail to understand the context of what I am saying so please kindly refrain from speaking for me.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
reply to post by captaintyinknots
 


Actually in a earlier post I agreed with the context of Obama's statement if you bothered to read.So who is twisting who's statement's here? You fail to understand the context of what I am saying so please kindly refrain from speaking for me.



And yet another post full of meat here.

You can deny all you want, your entire post is focussed on Obama, and not the statement made. You made this thread to try and call out obama, not to discuss what he said.

Simple as that.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by 13th Zodiac

Originally posted by kellynap43
Soft?

While his wife takes million dollar vacations and drinks top shelf drinks, eats most expensive foods, etc.

How about he practices what he preaches
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Oh come on,let's be fair here.She does shop at target.

Secondline.

Well that 5000 dollar Trek mountain bike she rode on her last vacation didn't come from target: Probably came from a bike shop that needed a government loan in a real big hurry: Not only that; she was out of breath according to the pic I saw: These people are so unreal: They have no clue



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
reply to post by captaintyinknots
 


Actually in a earlier post I agreed with the context of Obama's statement if you bothered to read.So who is twisting who's statement's here? You fail to understand the context of what I am saying so please kindly refrain from speaking for me.



And yet another post full of meat here.

You can deny all you want, your entire post is focussed on Obama, and not the statement made. You made this thread to try and call out obama, not to discuss what he said.

Simple as that.


Politicians & People: The discussion of politicians and politically active public figures.

Guess thats why its in this section..............



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
reply to post by captaintyinknots
 


Actually in a earlier post I agreed with the context of Obama's statement if you bothered to read.So who is twisting who's statement's here? You fail to understand the context of what I am saying so please kindly refrain from speaking for me.



And yet another post full of meat here.

You can deny all you want, your entire post is focussed on Obama, and not the statement made. You made this thread to try and call out obama, not to discuss what he said.

Simple as that.


Politicians & People: The discussion of politicians and politically active public figures.

Guess thats why its in this section..............


Ya, you missed the point.



posted on Sep, 30 2011 @ 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by DavidsHope

Originally posted by 13th Zodiac

Originally posted by kellynap43
Soft?

While his wife takes million dollar vacations and drinks top shelf drinks, eats most expensive foods, etc.

How about he practices what he preaches
edit on 30-9-2011 by kellynap43 because: (no reason given)


Oh come on,let's be fair here.She does shop at target.

Secondline.

Well that 5000 dollar Trek mountain bike she rode on her last vacation didn't come from target: Probably came from a bike shop that needed a government loan in a real big hurry: Not only that; she was out of breath according to the pic I saw: These people are so unreal: They have no clue


Hadn't heard about that one.Is that the one rumoured to be made from Elvis's diamond encrusted Caddilac?
Secondline.



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